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#51 Darth-Caedus

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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] so you dont understand that God gives eternal life? a limited life is meaningless infront of an eternal life...lightleggy

Then why bother creating this limited life in the first place? You would think a supposedly all powerful being would be capable of creating us in this eternal paradise without the need for this meaningless life.

cuz God wants to see if you really wanna have that eternal life? if you deserve it?

If he was all power, and all knowing, he would not need this for that. Also, is this supposedly all powerful being incapable of creating only those that would deserve it?

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#52 Brainkiller05

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Also if God did come down and fed the starving children how would you prove he was the Christian god?

checkmate

you don't even have HALF a point

Is the Christian God really sitting up there thinking "but if i feed the children then they will know i exist"

if so he just got outsmarted by a human

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#53 thriteenthmonke

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, im saying he wont intervene directly so that people still have faith, and not a concrete proof. you cant have faith if you already know something, you dont say "I HAVE FAITH THAT 2+2=4!" because you already know that 2+2 IS 4

Yes, but as an all powerful being he would certainly be able to intervene indirectly to help those in need without making it apparent.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] one thing is a little pray, like for example "pls help me at school" other is something like "COME DOWN AND HAND THE KIDS IN AFRICA SOME FOOD BY YOURSELF" tell me something... if you are in africa, and you see God comming down from the sky with a bunch of food, handing the food himself to every single kid...would you still be atheist? no, because you would have an actual concrete undeniable proof that He exist, eliminating the need of FAITH

What do you mean by "faith"? And more importantly, if God were to exist, and he's a really super dude who loves everyone, what would "faith" mean to him? Because "faith" has multiple definitions. Do you merely mean "faith" as in believing in something that has no proof - sure, that applies to God, but would that be a reason for him not to help? It seems childish for an omnimax being to not help out those who are experiencing a profound amount of suffering just because they can't know that he exists. Or would faith mean an obligation of loyalty (just an FYI, I got both of these definitions from dictionary.com)? I think that makes more sense, and I don't think that starving kids in Africa would feel as if they are not obligated to be loyal to God just because they are certain he exists - if anything that would be the ultimate "loyalty boost".

life is a test of faith... and it certainly cant be a test of faith without faith...

But how are you defining faith?

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I don't expect God to do anything special for me personally. However, there are people in this world who didn't have a chance at all. Why did your God abandon them? Simple. He doesn't exist.
Assassin1349

I see where you're coming from.

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#57 mattisgod01

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Also if God did come down and fed the starving children how would you prove he was the Christian god?
checkmate
you don't even have HALF a point
Is the Christian God really sitting up there thinking "but if i feed the children then they will know i exist"
if so he just got outsmarted by a human
Brainkiller05

I'm pretty sure God would be able to feed the starving people in Africa without giving himself away.

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#59 Brainkiller05

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]
Also if God did come down and fed the starving children how would you prove he was the Christian god?
checkmate
you don't even have HALF a point
Is the Christian God really sitting up there thinking "but if i feed the children then they will know i exist"
if so he just got outsmarted by a human
mattisgod01

I'm pretty sure God would be able to feed the starving people in Africa without giving himself away.

obviously, but TC's point was that he couldn't feed the children because that would prove he exists = religion doesn't require faith = we don't go to heaven I know that doesn't make sense, but that was his point in a previous post.

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I stopped believing when I realized the only reason I'd been believing was because I was scared of what comes after life. SAGE_OF_FIRE

This is actually a good, simple reason.

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#61 bionicle_lover

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] so you dont understand that God gives eternal life? a limited life is meaningless infront of an eternal life...

Then why bother creating this limited life in the first place? You would think a supposedly all powerful being would be capable of creating us in this eternal paradise without the need for this meaningless life.

cuz God wants to see if you really wanna have that eternal life? if you deserve it?

why would god need to test us? he already knows. Doesnt he know everything that was and everything that will be?

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#62 Darth-Caedus

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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]
Also if God did come down and fed the starving children how would you prove he was the Christian god?
checkmate
you don't even have HALF a point
Is the Christian God really sitting up there thinking "but if i feed the children then they will know i exist"
if so he just got outsmarted by a human
Brainkiller05

I'm pretty sure God would be able to feed the starving people in Africa without giving himself away.

obviously, but TC's point was that he couldn't feed the children because that would prove he exists = religion doesn't require faith = we don't go to heaven I know that doesn't make sense, but that was his point in a previous post.

I like how all the excuses that he is giving result in a god that is either incompetent, a pompous ass, or...no existent. :P

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#63 clubsammich91

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I don't believe in God because of that. I just find the belief in God to be irrational. I'm a skeptic and I demand to be convinced of the existence of God.

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Don't you guys know about the parallel universes and stuff?

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i cant certainly say i never made that argument, op.

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I surely hope there is no god. I don't want to meet the sick **** that runs this world...

The same can be said for people of faith. The world doesn't revolve around you. You aren't special, you aren't blessed, you were just born in better conditions than other people and got lucky.

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#67 DarkGamer007

Member since 2008 • 6033 Posts

[QUOTE="Astrapsody"]
There are many poor arguments, and that's one of them. However, there are many very good arguments, and I suggest you get into those....
lightleggy

im not discussing other arguments, im discussing this one, the silly "oh I stopped believing because if God really loves me, why I didnt got a ferrari for christmas when I was 11 years old?"

You do understand that some people do have bad lives right? Not everyone going on about how bad their life is, is due to them not getting a Ferrari for Christmas. :|

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#68 HomicidalCherry

Member since 2009 • 959 Posts

btw...I dont want this to be a 19 pages thread...
lightleggy

You shouldn't have made a religion thread in OT.:P

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One thing I would like to know is how God allows the existence of disorders such as Harlequin babies. If you want to know what I'm talking about, look it up on Google images. I warn you, it's disturbing. And they usually only survive for a few hours.

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I'm sure most atheists become atheists after they find no supportable evidence exists for the supposedly godly being know as god.

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#71 Assassin1349

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Even if your precious God is real. I am against him. I want to slay God and rule heaven and hell.

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Even if your precious God is real. I am against him. I want to slay God and rule heaven and hell.
Assassin1349

:D You running heaven would be awesome.

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#73 RichardStallman

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Thank you, that is a really interest point of view and it hasn't been posted before.

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#74 Assassin1349

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Thank you, that is a really interest point of view and it hasn't been posted before.RichardStallman

You're kidding right? We've heard that crap at least a million times.

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#75 RichardStallman

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[QUOTE="RichardStallman"]Thank you, that is a really interest point of view and it hasn't been posted before.Assassin1349

You're kidding right? We've heard that crap at least a million times.

Read your sig.

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#76 Assassin1349

Member since 2009 • 2798 Posts

[QUOTE="Assassin1349"][QUOTE="RichardStallman"]Thank you, that is a really interest point of view and it hasn't been posted before.RichardStallman

You're kidding right? We've heard that crap at least a million times.

Read your sig.

Well, I never said I had one myself. :P

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]
Also if God did come down and fed the starving children how would you prove he was the Christian god?
checkmate
you don't even have HALF a point
Is the Christian God really sitting up there thinking "but if i feed the children then they will know i exist"
if so he just got outsmarted by a human
mattisgod01

I'm pretty sure God would be able to feed the starving people in Africa without giving himself away.

Although omnipotent he may well, God is not known for his cooking skills. That's why he doesn't feed the starving.

Besides, do they even grow produce such as peas or apples in heaven? I doubt it – it'll be all convenience processed food up there I'm sure.

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