Questioning Existence

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

yeah you still exist

yeah you still exist

Serraph105

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

cee1gee

Well, I'm gonna guess that all matter still exists even if no one knows about it.

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

cee1gee

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

cee1gee

Interesting thought: if a person is color blind, and cannot see orange, then does orange exist for him? It exists for us who can see it, but we are incapable of describing orange to a person who cannot see it.

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

Does that planet that gets discovered for the first time tomorrow exist before tomorrow? Yes. Being unaware of something doesn't make it non-existent. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.snowman6251

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

cee1gee

[QUOTE="snowman6251"]Does that planet that gets discovered for the first time tomorrow exist before tomorrow? Yes. Being unaware of something doesn't make it non-existent. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.Serraph105

Perception is not the only way of determining existence.

Interesting thought: if a person is color blind, and cannot see orange, then does orange exist for him? It exists for us who can see it, but we are incapable of describing orange to a person who cannot see it.

heysharpshooter

If I can imagine it, it exists.

If I haven't heard of it, it doen't exist.

Now leave me and myManBearPigin peace.

Hang on... If you only exist when somebody else verifies it, and that person only exists when somebody else verifies it, who exists in the first place to get the ball rolling?jimmyjammer69

If I can imagine it, it exists.

If I haven't heard of it, it doen't exist.

Now leave me and myManBearPigin peace.

smc91352

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Hang on... If you only exist when somebody else verifies it, and that person only exists when somebody else verifies it, who exists in the first place to get the ball rolling?cee1gee

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Hang on... If you only exist when somebody else verifies it, and that person only exists when somebody else verifies it, who exists in the first place to get the ball rolling?jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

If I can imagine it, it exists.

If I haven't heard of it, it doen't exist.

Now leave me and myManBearPigin peace.

cee1gee

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="smc91352"]

If I can imagine it, it exists.

If I haven't heard of it, it doen't exist.

Now leave me and myManBearPigin peace.

guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="snowman6251"]Does that planet that gets discovered for the first time tomorrow exist before tomorrow? Yes. Being unaware of something doesn't make it non-existent. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.snowman6251

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[QUOTE="cee1gee"] exactly, if no one can imagine it, than i just see no possibility in its existencecee1gee

[QUOTE="snowman6251"][QUOTE="Serraph105"] there are also unknown unkowns. things that we don't know that we don't know.Serraph105

Yes you exist.

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="guynamedbilly"] So new species of insects and galaxies and stars and such don't exist until scientists discover them? How were they able to discover them if they didn't exist?

snowman6251

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[QUOTE="cee1gee"] exactly, if no one can imagine it, than i just see no possibility in its existencecee1gee

[QUOTE="snowman6251"][QUOTE="cee1gee"] so let me get this straight...your saying if nothing knows you exist,you still exist? well why do the atheists say God does not exist? wouldnt it be the same thingcee1gee

[QUOTE="snowman6251"][QUOTE="cee1gee"] so let me get this straight...your saying if nothing knows you exist,you still exist? well why do the atheists say God does not exist? wouldnt it be the same thingcee1gee

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

xaos

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[QUOTE="snowman6251"] I'm an atheist. I think God doesn't exist because there is no evidence whatsoever (and actually the way I look at it there's evidence of the contrary, being the sheer number of different religions and gods and the origins of religion and how wrong the bible and other holy books are at basic science, amongst other things). Something like a newly discovered planet has evidence. They looked through a telescope, boom planet discovered, proof presented. If someone looked through a telescope and saw God chilling on a cloud I would A) be shocked and B) be proven wrong and believe in God. snowman6251

you sir, are a rare breed on this forum...a poster with intillegence, i cant agree more with your statements

And I quote some random religion site I once visited: " If you don't believe in God, you won't go up to heaven to party with Jesus"

So we clearly exist to try and gain entrance into the epic party known as heaven!

Define existence first.

can we plz not get into religion again..... I mean really its gettin annoying

can we plz not get into religion again..... I mean really its gettin annoying

CommonFable

[QUOTE="CommonFable"]

can we plz not get into religion again..... I mean really its gettin annoying

cee1gee

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="CommonFable"]

can we plz not get into religion again..... I mean really its gettin annoying

snowman6251

If a tree falls down and no one is around to hear it does it still make a sound?

If no one knows you existed, do you actually exist?

im gonna say no, if no one knows you exist then your non existent, how can someone exist if no one can think of them or ever thought of them

cee1gee

If a tree falls down and no one is around to hear it does it still make a sound?

FreezeBlast95

This is a very interesting question. I heard about a physics question that physicists asked themselves at one point relating to quantum theory. That question is: If you can't see the moon (it's a new moon or on the other side of the Earth), does it exist? The answer they said was no, it does not exist at least according to quantum theory. Why quantum theory? It is impossible to know the exact location of any one particle. Physicists use lab equipment to find, lets say a Proton. They will never know exactly where the Proton is, but they will get a percentage of how close they are to the Proton. The funny thing is, they never get to 100% as the Proton is more like a haze rather than a particle. So (this is gonna sound weird), we can never know the "exact" (quantum level) position of anything, including the moon. So, that being said, is existance a mere illusion or just one big cruel joke?