"Are You Ready For Nuclear War? If so, vote Republican"

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#1 loco145
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"If you desire to be poor, oppressed, and eventually vaporized in a nuclear war, vote Republican."

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/080818_you.htm

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#2 blackngold29
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How reliable is this VDARE.com?
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#3 Gamer4Iife
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Typical of them.

Why do have to side with either the rednecks or the hippies ? Why can't there be a party that's in the middle ? :(

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#4 alexmurray
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traditional republican tactic scare you into voting them
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#5 194197844077667059316682358889
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Anyone who refers to opponents as Brownshirts is a little too shrill in their hyperbole for me to take seriously.
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#6 The_Mac_Daddy
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traditional republican tactic scare you into voting themalexmurray

? the quote was by a democrat bashing republicans...

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#7 loco145
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]traditional republican tactic scare you into voting themThe_Mac_Daddy

? the quote was by a democrat bashing republicans...

Is acutally a Republican bashing Republicans.
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#8 H8sMikeMoore
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just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation only
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#9 loco145
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What about war?
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#10 The_Mac_Daddy
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[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]traditional republican tactic scare you into voting themloco145

? the quote was by a democrat bashing republicans...

Is acutally a Republican bashing Republicans.

.... why would a republican tell you not to vote for republicans unless you want to be poor, opressed and have a nuclear war? That hardly seems like the best way to make people wanna vote for you.

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#11 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]traditional republican tactic scare you into voting themThe_Mac_Daddy

? the quote was by a democrat bashing republicans...

Is acutally a Republican bashing Republicans.

.... why would a republican tell you not to vote for republicans unless you want to be poor, opressed and have a nuclear war? That hardly seems like the best way to make people wanna vote for you.

Did you read the article?

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#12 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyH8sMikeMoore

What has taxation got to do with anything?

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#13 legend26
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ohhh you republicans and democrats with your annoying bickering...
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#14 The_Mac_Daddy
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[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]traditional republican tactic scare you into voting themloco145

? the quote was by a democrat bashing republicans...

Is acutally a Republican bashing Republicans.

.... why would a republican tell you not to vote for republicans unless you want to be poor, opressed and have a nuclear war? That hardly seems like the best way to make people wanna vote for you.

Did you read the article?

nope. i don't have the strength to debate right now. But by the quote, it sounds like he doesn't have anything good to say about republicans.

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#15 xscrapzx
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Yes because Obama is going to create world peace, keep the Russians from being mad and upset, everyone in the middleast is going to love and adore us when Obama comes. You are out of your mind. I don't care who comes into office, nothing is going to change in a blink of an eye or even four years aftwards to be honest. There are a lot problems that need to be solved and it going to take a hell of a lot more than 4 years and a democratic president.
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyjointed

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

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#17 loco145
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If you want to debate, at least read the article people, is not that long...

This is what the guys says about Democrats:

"The Democrats are not much better, but they have some constituencies that are not enamored of war in order to establish US world hegemony. The Rapture Evangelicals, who fervently desire Armageddon, are not Democrats; nor are the brainwashed Brownshirts desperate to vent their frustrations by striking at someone, somewhere, anywhere."

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#18 Theokhoth
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Am I supposed to care about silly propaganda?
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#19 Oleg_Huzwog
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Nuclear war is impossible. Not going to happen.
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#20 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyH8sMikeMoore

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

You're trying to bring taxes into every debate you're in.

Hmm...please refute this then:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGaWZOo0

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#21 argetlam00
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I've read that whole article and its the best thing I've read in a while..
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#22 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyjointed

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

You're trying to bring taxes into every debate you're in.

Hmm...please refute this then:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGaWZOo0

And who put that video on there? :|

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#23 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyH8sMikeMoore

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

Taxes are going up no matter who is in office thanks to the out of control spending of the current administration.
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#24 Isbrealiompie
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just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyH8sMikeMoore

Fox news much?

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#25 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyIsbrealiompie

Fox news much?

:lol:

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#26 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyxscrapzx

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

You're trying to bring taxes into every debate you're in.

Hmm...please refute this then:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGaWZOo0

And who put that video on there? :|

Obama's campaign managers, obviously.

It's not as if it matters who put it up there since the claims he made are either true or falsifiable.

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#27 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyjointed

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

You're trying to bring taxes into every debate you're in.

Hmm...please refute this then:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGaWZOo0

is he not raising capital gains tax? the video just said he wouldnt, but avoided the issue that he said he would.

I dont think the rich/anyone should be taxed anymore (outside of bare necessity)

proof: he IS raising capital gains taxes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSDBu35K-8 straight from his mouth.

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#28 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyIsbrealiompie

Fox news much?

no, im not a liberal pretending to be a conservative.

how about instead of assuming anyone who dosent like obama loves fox news you actually learn about something? that would really be awesome.

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#29 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyLJS9502_basic

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

Taxes are going up no matter who is in office thanks to the out of control spending of the current administration.

that is true. and its unfortunate, the big no for me is the capital gains tax that obama wants to raise. the stock market has always been one of the easiest methods out of poverty and he wants to make it harder for people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58vkmQklbdU

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#30 Isbrealiompie
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[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyH8sMikeMoore

Fox news much?

no, im not a liberal pretending to be a conservative.

how about instead of assuming anyone who dosent like obama loves fox news you actually learn about something? that would really be awesome.

I didnt say I liked obama, in fact i disagree with his energy policy hugely. It was more the phrase "just another liberal lie" that made me assume you love fox news.

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#31 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyH8sMikeMoore

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

You're trying to bring taxes into every debate you're in.

Hmm...please refute this then:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGaWZOo0

is he not raising capital gains tax? the video just said he wouldnt, but avoided the issue that he said he would.

I dont think the rich/anyone should be taxed anymore (outside of bare necessity)

proof: he IS raising capital gains taxes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSDBu35K-8 straight from his mouth.

He said that he would look at it, and don't you have a newer source? I mean, that statement is almost half a year old.

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#32 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyIsbrealiompie

Fox news much?

no, im not a liberal pretending to be a conservative.

how about instead of assuming anyone who dosent like obama loves fox news you actually learn about something? that would really be awesome.

I didnt say I liked obama, in fact i disagree with his energy policy hugely. It was more the phrase "just another liberal lie" that made me assume you love fox news.

fox news is for leftists who pretend their silly idealogy belongs with real conservatism.

social conservatism and a government that spends like crazy is not conservatism. neo cons have their roots with left liberal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocon#Left-wing_past_of_neoconservatives

so as you can see, bush is anything but a conservative.

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#33 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]just another liberal lie. taxation never leads to wealth. stagnation onlyjointed

What has taxation got to do with anything?

arent they saying vote for obama if you dont want to be poor?

obama = more taxes.

You're trying to bring taxes into every debate you're in.

Hmm...please refute this then:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGaWZOo0

is he not raising capital gains tax? the video just said he wouldnt, but avoided the issue that he said he would.

I dont think the rich/anyone should be taxed anymore (outside of bare necessity)

proof: he IS raising capital gains taxes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSDBu35K-8 straight from his mouth.

He said that he would look at it, and don't you have a newer source? I mean, that statement is almost half a year old.

I dont know of his policy changing on it. I mean your video just said that he wasnt raising it but it never provided any reason to believe it.

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#34 loco145
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Idk why we are talking about taxes in here...
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#35 comp_atkins
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Typical of them.

Why do have to side with either the rednecks or the hippies ? Why can't there be a party that's in the middle ? :(

Gamer4Iife

its called independant

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#36 loco145
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How reliable is this VDARE.com?blackngold29
In what sense? Is not fake if that is what you mean.
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#37 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"]How reliable is this VDARE.com?loco145
In what sense? Is not fake if that is what you mean.

Not fake; just stupid enough to make us wonder.

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#38 Cube_of_MooN
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It is propaganda, plain and simple.
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#39 freshgman
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The US is in no position to be in new war at this point
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#40 dday2121
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The US is in no position to be in new war at this pointfreshgman

Says who? It isn't like there is an unwritten law saying "No entering new wars which will aid a valuable ally."I hardly find Iraq relevant to the fact that we should help Georgia.

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#41 loco145
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[QUOTE="freshgman"]The US is in no position to be in new war at this pointdday2121

Says who? It isn't like there is an unwritten law saying "No entering new wars which will aid a valuable ally."I hardly find Iraq relevant to the fact that we should help Georgia.

So you want to go war with Russia?
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#42 ThePlothole
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Typical of them.

Why do have to side with either the rednecks or the hippies ? Why can't there be a party that's in the middle ? :(

Gamer4Iife

There are. Just no one votes for them. :roll:

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#43 DOS4dinner
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It does not matter who is in office, if a nuclear war is going to happen it is going to happen. If Russia said "You have 10 days to surrender or we blow you off the face of the earth", even Obama could not hold back nukes or other weapons. Right now it is all "peace! prevent war!" which is good. Peace is a good thing to have. However, the second we come to face a REAL danger--where not even the children are spared--everyone, except for some extreme peace-lovers, is going to support the idea of Missle defense and having our own weapons. If we are ever attacked--even it is small--both republicans and democrats are going to do something about it, unless they want the public to hate them. People dying and no one caring looks horrible on your record.
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#44 kayn83
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I strongly disagree that voting for Republican will ensure a nuclear war. More likely than voting Democrat, yeah probably (only because Democrats aren't as hasty on the trigger) but honestly not by much.

Fact is, if nuclear war will happen, it will happen, regardless of political ideology. If the serious enough threat arises, either Obama or McCain will use nuclear force if necessary.

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#45 dday2121
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[QUOTE="dday2121"]

[QUOTE="freshgman"]The US is in no position to be in new war at this pointloco145

Says who? It isn't like there is an unwritten law saying "No entering new wars which will aid a valuable ally."I hardly find Iraq relevant to the fact that we should help Georgia.

So you want to go war with Russia?

I said nothing of that nature. But I don't want Russia to get the idea that they can walk all over the world just because people fear war.

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#46 jetpower3
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Sounds like another biased report critical of "US imperialism".
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#47 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="dday2121"]

[QUOTE="freshgman"]The US is in no position to be in new war at this pointdday2121

Says who? It isn't like there is an unwritten law saying "No entering new wars which will aid a valuable ally."I hardly find Iraq relevant to the fact that we should help Georgia.

So you want to go war with Russia?

I said nothing of that nature. But I don't want Russia to get the idea that they can walk all over the world just because people fear war.

Well, Georgia started it.
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I knew i should have built that bomb shelter!
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vote fascism