"Be Confident" to get a girl doesn't work

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#1 daftm0nk
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the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.
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#2 AAllxxjjnn
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Nope. There's a difference between confident and downright egotistical.
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#3 foxhound_fox
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Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing.

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#4 daftm0nk
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Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing.

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sometimes you have to be arrogant to show confidence. cuz if you don't have confidence to begin with, you can only force it.
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#5 needled24-7
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well being unconfident sure as hell won't work.

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#6 daftm0nk
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well being unconfident sure as hell won't work.

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you can't just "be confident". you can mimmick arrogance in order to show confidence, or just be anti-social and never get the girl your choice
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#7 ragek1ll589
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the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.daftm0nk

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

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#8 needled24-7
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

well being unconfident sure as hell won't work.

daftm0nk

you can't just "be confident". you can mimmick arrogance in order to show confidence, or just be anti-social and never get the girl your choice

you dont have to mimmick arrogance, you can just gain confidence... but if i had to choose between "mimmicking arrogance in order to show confidence" or "be anti-social and never get the girl," i'd choose arrogance.

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#9 daftm0nk
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[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.ragek1ll589

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

but you can't just "be confident". and arrogance can throw the girl off her pedistul
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#10 ragek1ll589
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.daftm0nk

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

but you can't just "be confident". and arrogance can throw the girl off her pedistul

But why would a girl be attracted to arrogance?

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#11 seimagery
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Sometimes you gotta tell her how big you are.

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#12 daftm0nk
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[QUOTE="daftm0nk"][QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

ragek1ll589

but you can't just "be confident". and arrogance can throw the girl off her pedistul

But why would a girl be attracted to arrogance?

it's a guilty pleasure, it shows domination between the males
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#13 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.daftm0nk

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

but you can't just "be confident". and arrogance can throw the girl off her pedistul

Confidence is the belief that you can do something. Arrogance is the belief that only you can do something. You don't need to be arrogant. Arrogance just makes you an ass.
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#14 bobaban
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.daftm0nk

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

but you can't just "be confident". and arrogance can throw the girl off her pedistul

Who is putting her on that pedestal? You. There is no need "to throw her off", when you created that inequality in the first place.
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#15 daftm0nk
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maybe it makes you look like at an ass at first, but when the girl gets to know you, it dissapears. if you're not arrogant at first, domination would only be pointed towards the female. and female's are attracted to domination
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#16 l4dak47
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It's bascially based on evolution, usually the strong confident guys would survive longer and make stronger babies, so girls on a very basic level seeks that confidence.

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#17 ragek1ll589
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female's are attracted to dominationdaftm0nk

100% BS

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#18 Adam_the_Nerd
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The fact that you're debating this on a gaming website speaks volumes. hahaha just kidding.

Confidence means taking a stand: someone butts their way infront of you two in the line, and you give them a firm talking down. No fighting, no swearing, no "showing off". Confidence means making decisions, not just sitting on the fence when the girl asks "what are we going to do?".

Confidence means being comfortable in your skin, to make her comfortable in hers; making good conversation, to make a connection; being friendly and charming, to make her want to do it again.

I'm assuming you were either rejected or had a bad date recently, and you might be hurting - don't worry about it. Nothing is complete without the "connection". And that requires the right person. And that comes with time.

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#19 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]female's are attracted to dominationragek1ll589

100% BS

No, not really, once again this is based on evolution the strong, confident/dominant guys survived longer and therefore the girls were attracted to that.

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#20 daftm0nk
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some girls who are on their pedestal won't admit that their attracted to domination, but it's a guilty pleasure biologically with all woman. unless you don't like men
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#21 XilePrincess
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I was going to say you're correct, but then I read your post. It doesn't matter how confident you are, if she doesn't like you, you won't get her affection by being confident.
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#22 seimagery
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Different women want different things. Period.

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#23 ZookGuy
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Give the new topic button a rest, okay ;).
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#24 XilePrincess
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TC after reading through your posts in here (after I replied the first time), maybe the reason you're not 'getting the girl' is because you act like a huge jerk. What kind of woman who as any self worth 'fall for' a guy because he's arrogant/'confident'/on an ego trip and tries to dominate and belittle her (WTF stripping down her confidence?!?!)? There's a difference between 'dominance' in a relationship (taking charge, doing things) and crushing the self esteem of some poor girl you're not dating to make her like you.
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#25 coolbeans90
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Sure, being confident is only part of getting the girl. However, let me speak from experience. If you don't think you can succeed, you won't. End of story.

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#26 UnknownSniper65
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Its pretty easy to mistake confidence for arrogance.

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#27 daqua_99
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You have to be confident to a certain extent. However there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance which should not be crossed.

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#28 Mr_Leonis
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Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing.

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Its easy for alot of people to be confused by the two. (specially females in HS it seems)
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#29 observer77
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agreed. reality is if a girl isn't into you it doesn't matter how confident you are, you are getting the girl, but that is just what I think on the whole advice of getting girls and confidence.

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#30 foxhound_fox
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sometimes you have to be arrogant to show confidence. cuz if you don't have confidence to begin with, you can only force it.daftm0nk

Arrogance (or hubris) is egoism mixed with confidence. Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing nor are they necessary to become involved in a relationship.

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#31 Snipes_2
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This thread scares me...(Backs out Slowly)

Seriously though, If she likes you, she'll want to be with you. Showing Dominance or trying to become the OVerlord of someone I don't think will work. But Hey, I have no experience with girls so, my opinion doesn't really matter now does it :P.

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#32 weezyfb
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well it depends on the chick
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#33 btaylor2404
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Sorry, disagree. Confidence in yourself is a major, major factor for men attracting women, and many other aspects of life.
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#34 Bond302
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[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.

wrong wrong wrong... be confident its simple, and oh ya dont be an *ss
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#35 Avistann
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Actually being quite confident was pretty much how I got my current girlfriend. Recently, stripping myself of my self-confidence has brought trouble to our relationship. The only really way to keep a relationship going is to have that confidence and not doubt.
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#36 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="daftm0nk"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]

well being unconfident sure as hell won't work.

you can't just "be confident". you can mimmick arrogance in order to show confidence, or just be anti-social and never get the girl your choice

.. You are then likely to meet the girl who is more interested in her own status, and what she can get from the relationship instead of companionship and the like..
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#37 DarthSatan
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You're doing it wrong.

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#38 Bond302
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You're doing it wrong.

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haha thats what she said
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.daftm0nk

Not at all true. By being confident it shows her you aren't intimidated. That has nothing to do with being egotistical.

but you can't just "be confident". and arrogance can throw the girl off her pedistul

And make her think you're an absolute dick and laugh at your horrible grammar.

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#42 T_Money420
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Wouldn't "being yourself" be the most confident action?????

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#43 Lethalhazard
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Wouldn't "being yourself" be the most confident action?????

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What if you're a sloppy, greasy nerd?
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#44 Frenzyd109
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I lol'd at this thread. Men trying to figure out women...
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#45 fiscope
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Yeah, okay. Confidence is key in any endeavour, especially in dating.

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#46 one_plum
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Yeah, okay. Confidence is key in any endeavour, especially in dating.

fiscope

That's true. The only way to escape this "obligation" to be confident is to move to a different society and culture where there is less emphasis on confidence.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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Confidence is not the same as arrogance. Not even close....
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#48 ZAGAV3
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Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing.

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This, but you need more than 'confidence' in order to get a girl.
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#49 Diablo-B
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[QUOTE="daftm0nk"]the truth is, you can be as confident as you want, but it's not gonna make a difference. you gotta strip "her" confidence in order for her to let her guard down. Cuz if you're confident and she's also confident, she'll just think you're egotistical.

You may sound like a jerk for saying it but making a girl insecure is the easiest way to have power over her. So yea, your mother wouldn't approve but it would definitely work.
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#50 Wings_008
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i always play the cool shy guy, and it works most of the times, it depends on the girl