"The Knowing" is possibly the worst movie I've ever seen.

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#1 KH-mixerX
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It was horrendous. I usually like every movie Nick Cage does, but not this one. The first 3 quarters of the movie was actually pretty good. Then BAM, it just dies instantly with the most ridiculous plot addition in history. I was like WTF? I went from generally entertained, to completely and utterly disappointed within seconds.

Bottom line, DON"T GO SEE THE KNOWING. Its a ******* waste of $9 if you ask me.

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#2 PlasmaBeam44
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You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

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#3 sammyjenkis898
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You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44
I hate when people bash Nicholas Cage. The man can act if he's directed well. Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and Leaving Las Vegas are good examples of this. He just accepts pretty much any script that is thrown at him.
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#4 Curlyfrii87
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It didn't look to goodto me anyways! :?

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#5 PlasmaBeam44
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

sammyjenkis898

I hate when people bash Nicholas Cage. The man can act if he's directed well. Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and Leaving Las Vegas are good examples of this. He just accepts pretty much any script that is thrown at him.

Which is why I think he's a hack and a complete idiot. He's obviously talented but if he's dumb enough to do whatever movie that comes his way then he deserves whatever scolding he gets.

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#6 Patatopan
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Your situation sort of reminds me of another movie, Storm of the Century, An alright movie where near the end it just totaly bombs.

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#7 smokeydabear076
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It looked really dumb to me anyways... what happened that was so bad?

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#8 Theokhoth
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I read the summary on Wikipedia and went "What in the ****" at the ending. It seems like a bittersweet ending, but very. . .strange. The previews looked awesome, however.

I probably won't see it. I'm waiting for Angels and Demons.

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#9 sammyjenkis898
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Which is why I think he's a hack and a complete idiot. He's obviously talented but if he's dumb enough to do whatever movie that comes his way then he deserves whatever scolding he gets.

PlasmaBeam44

Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44

That makes him a hack? You said every movie he does is "complete ass", which obviously isn't true. Hopefully someone will give him the right script.

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#10 Theokhoth
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It looked really dumb to me anyways... what happened that was so bad?

smokeydabear076

[spoiler] Everybody in the world dies and all the children are taken by angelic beings on spaceships to another planet, where they run to what may be the Tree of Life. [/spoiler]

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#11 CrazyLaser
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I liked it.. Im offended
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#12 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

It looked really dumb to me anyways... what happened that was so bad?

Theokhoth

spoiler

Wow, that sounds pretty stupid, but shocking too.

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#13 PlasmaBeam44
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

Which is why I think he's a hack and a complete idiot. He's obviously talented but if he's dumb enough to do whatever movie that comes his way then he deserves whatever scolding he gets.

sammyjenkis898

Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44

That makes him a hack? You said every movie he does is "complete ass", which obviously isn't true. Hopefully someone will give him the right script.

I never forgave him after he did the god awful Wicker Man remake.

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#14 CrazyLaser
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44

That makes him a hack? You said every movie he does is "complete ass", which obviously isn't true. Hopefully someone will give him the right script.

I never forgave him after he did the god awful Wicker Man remake.

I lost interest in him when he did National Treasure
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#15 nitsud_19
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Haha bummer. I thought the story sounded pretty neat (something different), i'll still rent it though.

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#16 mindstorm
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I haven't seen it yet, but someone recommended it to me due to the religious symbolism. :P
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#17 clayron
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I completely agree, TC. But what upset me about the movie, outside of the idiotic plot addition, is [spoiler] if the "aliens" had so much fore-warning and technological prowess why couldn't they just protect Earth with some giant glowing blue shield? No, instead, they round up a bunch of children (Pedophiles) and ship them away to some "New Earth," where they can skip merrily with no adult supervision while wearing outfits made of wheat [/spoiler]

Stupid.

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#18 clayron
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I haven't seen it yet, but someone recommended it to me due to the religious symbolism. :Pmindstorm

There is none. Yes, they do try to make it seem as though the aliens are, in fact, angels but trust me there is no true religious symbolism. At least none that I consider religious symbolism.

Keep the couple hours of your life, and please, enjoy them on something far more entertaining than this movie. Bowling, perhaps?

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#19 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I haven't seen it yet, but someone recommended it to me due to the religious symbolism. :Pclayron

There is none. Yes, they do try to make it seem as though the aliens are, in fact, angels but trust me there is no true religious symbolism. At least none that I consider religious symbolism.

Keep the couple hours of your life, and please, enjoy them on something far more entertaining than this movie. Bowling, perhaps?

I was actually told the ending which was

[spoiler] very like the idea of God destroying the world a second time but this time through fire as is prophesied. The kids are supposed to mirror a new Adam and Eve. ...or something like that. [/spoiler]

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#20 CleanPlayer
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Nicholas Cage used to be a good actor, but now he's a complete laughing stock. Look at the movies he's been in the past couple years. Knowing was horrible, Next was Horrible, Bangkok Dangerous was horrible, National Treasure : Book of Secrets was horrible, Ghost Rider was horrible, and the Wicker Man was atrocious. Seriously, he's lost his ability to pick decent scripts for movies.
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#21 REA24409
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You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44

Hahaha! :lol: That's hilarious, you have no idea how much I laughed when I saw that

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#22 trubluah
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I thought it was a really good movie to me, it kept me on the edge of my seat. The last quarter of the movie threw me off incredibly, for I

[spoiler] didn't think there would be aliens involved. At first I thought Nick's prediction that the sun was going to fry the earth, was false. The second the kid started to write on the paper again, it made me think that the world is not going to end, and that these are new disasters that are about to happen. It was very graphic how the people died, especially the air plane scene, and it kinda freaked me out a bit when seeing the earth getting burned alive. Makes me wonder if it's going to happen to us someday. In general, I really appreciated the mystery behind the numbers. I like how the movie introduced this with a bizzare connection with no other explanation at first. [/spoiler]

but that's that.. I give it 3.5 stars out of 5. If it wasn't for the ending, I think the movie would've been better somehow. But in the end, it seemed to have worked anyways.

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#23 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

Not Next. Not Raising Arizona. Not The Rock. Not Face/Off. Not Gone in 60 Seconds. Etc. etc.
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#24 jazznate
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I already knew the movie would suck just by the trailer

Nick Cage

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#25 Film-Guy
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I really like the director's other films THe Crow and Dark CIty, but he hasnt made a good film in ages. I will stil see Knowing though.

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#26 KH-mixerX
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

It looked really dumb to me anyways... what happened that was so bad?

smokeydabear076

spoiler

Wow, that sounds pretty stupid, but shocking too.

They took only 2 children to be precise.

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#27 KH-mixerX
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Nicholas Cage used to be a good actor, but now he's a complete laughing stock. Look at the movies he's been in the past couple years. Knowing was horrible, Next was Horrible, Bangkok Dangerous was horrible, National Treasure : Book of Secrets was horrible, Ghost Rider was horrible, and the Wicker Man was atrocious. Seriously, he's lost his ability to pick decent scripts for movies. CleanPlayer

Hey, Next was good. So was Ghost Rider.

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#29 smokeydabear076
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I already knew the movie would suck just by the trailer

Nick Cage

jazznate

Nice. :lol:

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#30 KH-mixerX
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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

It was horrendous. I usually like every movie Nick Cage does, but not this one. The first 3 quarters of the movie was actually pretty good. Then BAM, it just dies instantly with the most ridiculous plot addition in history. I was like WTF? I went from generally entertained, to completely and utterly disappointed within seconds.

Bottom line, DON"T GO SEE THE KNOWING. Its a ******* waste of $9 if you ask me.

dreDREb13

You obviously haven't seen The Wickerman.

Your right, I haven't.

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#31 pygmahia5
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the disasters were done amazingly well. but yea the ending was a let down. not the worst movie ever by any means at all though. i found it entertaining.
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#32 Tiefster
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Nick Cage has been going down hill, his most recent gems are Lord of War, The Weatherman, and Matchstick Men though, all great movies, especially Lord of War.

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#33 jazznate
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[QUOTE="dreDREb13"]

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

It was horrendous. I usually like every movie Nick Cage does, but not this one. The first 3 quarters of the movie was actually pretty good. Then BAM, it just dies instantly with the most ridiculous plot addition in history. I was like WTF? I went from generally entertained, to completely and utterly disappointed within seconds.

Bottom line, DON"T GO SEE THE KNOWING. Its a ******* waste of $9 if you ask me.

KH-mixerX

You obviously haven't seen The Wickerman.

Your right, I haven't.

It was a pretty good comedy film. Very deadpanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

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#34 pygmahia5
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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"]You obviously haven't seen The Wickerman.

jazznate

Your right, I haven't.

It was a pretty good comedy film. Very deadpanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

comedy? i hope thats a joke. but i heard the original wicker man was good.
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#35 jazznate
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[QUOTE="jazznate"]

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

Your right, I haven't.

pygmahia5

It was a pretty good comedy film. Very deadpanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

comedy? i hope thats a joke. but i heard the original wicker man was good.

The original is great, but the Nicholas Cage version is a joke and totally missed the point.

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#36 MrGeezer
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You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44

That's not true at all. Nicholas Cage was absolutely sublime in Raising Arizona, Leaving Las Vegas, and Adaptation.

And he was also pretty good in Mathstick Men and Lord of War as well.

I'm not saying that he's the greatest actor ever or that he doesn't pick some awful roles, or that he doesn't often come off as ridiculous when he's just hamming it up for a paycheck. But like they said in Clerks, give credit where credit is due. He CAN be very good, he HAS been very good, and he's put in some very good performances in some truly excellent movies. I know it's popular to hate on Nicholas Cage these days, but he deserves a HELL of a lot more credit than a lot of people are giving him.

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#37 synyster-666
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I've seen the trailer for this, and it really didn't interest me. It can't be the worst movie though. That title deserves to go to such braincell-wasting films as "Disaster Movie" or "Epic Movie".

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#38 synyster-666
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I already knew the movie would suck just by the trailer

Nick Cage

jazznate

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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#39 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

You obviously haven't seen Batman & Robin.

Also, Nicholas Cage is a hack. Every movie is does is complete ass.

PlasmaBeam44

I hate when people bash Nicholas Cage. The man can act if he's directed well. Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and Leaving Las Vegas are good examples of this. He just accepts pretty much any script that is thrown at him.

Which is why I think he's a hack and a complete idiot. He's obviously talented but if he's dumb enough to do whatever movie that comes his way then he deserves whatever scolding he gets.

Other actors do the same thing. Samuel Jackson is NOTORIOUS for accepting pretty much every role that is thrown at him. Same with Anthony Hopkins. That doesn't automatically make Pulp Fiction or The Silence Of The Lambs "complete ass".

And it's the EXACT same thing with Nicholas Cage.

Yeah, Nicholas Cage is NOT the most discriminating actor. And yeah, he's often been pretty damn bad. But he's also been pretty freaking good, and it is just completely ignorant to say that every movie he's been in has been complete ass.

Furthermore, from the reviews I've been seeing of this movie, most reviewers seem to be saying that Cage himself wasn't much of a weak link. Most people seem to be saying that Cage did just fine, but that the problem seemed to be with the direction and script. And if that's the case, it's pretty ridiculous to pin THAT on Nicholas Cage since he was neither the director nor the screenwriter.

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#40 clayron
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@ Mindstorm: Sorry, Gamespot will not let me quote.

Thats true. But, execution was poor. The movie tried to make it seem as if the aliens were in fact angels, at the very end of the movie - at not time prior was I aware I was dealing with some sort of angelic creature. My problem with this is that the angels were somewhat menacing the entire movie. Why? When I think of angels they are peaceful, comforting, inviting creatures. The guys in the movie were creepy, and ominous.

Also, about the prophecy. I thought in the first book of the bible, after God destroyed the world the first time, I thought he said he would never destroy the world again due to man. I do not remember, it has been a while since I read the bible.

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#41 clayron
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] I hate when people bash Nicholas Cage. The man can act if he's directed well. Matchstick Men, Adaptation, and Leaving Las Vegas are good examples of this. He just accepts pretty much any script that is thrown at him.MrGeezer

Which is why I think he's a hack and a complete idiot. He's obviously talented but if he's dumb enough to do whatever movie that comes his way then he deserves whatever scolding he gets.

Other actors do the same thing. Samuel Jackson is NOTORIOUS for accepting pretty much every role that is thrown at him. Same with Anthony Hopkins. That doesn't automatically make Pulp Fiction or The Silence Of The Lambs "complete ass".

And it's the EXACT same thing with Nicholas Cage.

Yeah, Nicholas Cage is NOT the most discriminating actor. And yeah, he's often been pretty damn bad. But he's also been pretty freaking good, and it is just completely ignorant to say that every movie he's been in has been complete ass.

Furthermore, from the reviews I've been seeing of this movie, most reviewers seem to be saying that Cage himself wasn't much of a weak link. Most people seem to be saying that Cage did just fine, but that the problem seemed to be with the direction and script. And if that's the case, it's pretty ridiculous to pin THAT on Nicholas Cage since he was neither the director nor the screenwriter.

I agree, Cage was good in this movie. The movie itself let me down, but I felt Cage played his role fairly well.

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#42 pygmahia5
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[QUOTE="pygmahia5"][QUOTE="jazznate"]

It was a pretty good comedy film. Very deadpanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

jazznate

comedy? i hope thats a joke. but i heard the original wicker man was good.

The original is great, but the Nicholas Cage version is a joke and totally missed the point.

is the original worth watching, even today?
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#43 podliver
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Yeah, this movie was soooooo bad it was funny. I laughed through almost the whole thing.
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#44 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="jazznate"]

[QUOTE="pygmahia5"] comedy? i hope thats a joke. but i heard the original wicker man was good. pygmahia5

The original is great, but the Nicholas Cage version is a joke and totally missed the point.

is the original worth watching, even today?

I hear that it has a LOT of gratuitous female nudity.

So if that's the case...yeah, it's worth watching today.

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#45 KH-mixerX
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@ Mindstorm: Sorry, Gamespot will not let me quote.

Thats true. But, execution was poor. The movie tried to make it seem as if the aliens were in fact angels, at the very end of the movie - at not time prior was I aware I was dealing with some sort of angelic creature. My problem with this is that the angels were somewhat menacing the entire movie. Why? When I think of angels they are peaceful, comforting, inviting creatures. The guys in the movie were creepy, and ominous.

Also, about the prophecy. I thought in the first book of the bible, after God destroyed the world the first time, I thought he said he would never destroy the world again due to man. I do not remember, it has been a while since I read the bible.

clayron

He said he would never destroy it again via flood.

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[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]Nicholas Cage used to be a good actor, but now he's a complete laughing stock. Look at the movies he's been in the past couple years. Knowing was horrible, Next was Horrible, Bangkok Dangerous was horrible, National Treasure : Book of Secrets was horrible, Ghost Rider was horrible, and the Wicker Man was atrocious. Seriously, he's lost his ability to pick decent scripts for movies. KH-mixerX

Hey, Next was good. So was Ghost Rider.

Ghost Rider was AWFUL
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#47 Jekken6
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[QUOTE="pygmahia5"][QUOTE="jazznate"]

The original is great, but the Nicholas Cage version is a joke and totally missed the point.

MrGeezer

is the original worth watching, even today?

I hear that it has a LOT of gratuitous female nudity.

So if that's the case...yeah, it's worth watching today.

lol

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#48 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

@ Mindstorm: Sorry, Gamespot will not let me quote.

Thats true. But, execution was poor. The movie tried to make it seem as if the aliens were in fact angels, at the very end of the movie - at not time prior was I aware I was dealing with some sort of angelic creature. My problem with this is that the angels were somewhat menacing the entire movie. Why? When I think of angels they are peaceful, comforting, inviting creatures. The guys in the movie were creepy, and ominous.

Also, about the prophecy. I thought in the first book of the bible, after God destroyed the world the first time, I thought he said he would never destroy the world again due to man. I do not remember, it has been a while since I read the bible.

KH-mixerX

He said he would never destroy it again via flood.

Thanks.

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#49 CleanPlayer
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[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]Nicholas Cage used to be a good actor, but now he's a complete laughing stock. Look at the movies he's been in the past couple years. Knowing was horrible, Next was Horrible, Bangkok Dangerous was horrible, National Treasure : Book of Secrets was horrible, Ghost Rider was horrible, and the Wicker Man was atrocious. Seriously, he's lost his ability to pick decent scripts for movies. KH-mixerX

Hey, Next was good. So was Ghost Rider.

Seriously? I didn't like Next, it's plot was poor and Ghost Rider....well enough said. That movie was just awful.
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after bangkok dangerous who would even see another cage movie?