fudge no! we need to make real plasma discharge weapons.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/153630-open-air-plasma-device-could-revolutionize-energy-generation-us-navys-weaponry
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fudge no! we need to make real plasma discharge weapons.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/153630-open-air-plasma-device-could-revolutionize-energy-generation-us-navys-weaponry
Sometimes I think we should cut back on military spending. In fact, I usually do. Then I see stuff like this.
yea, i am conflicted, stuck between do it because we can because SCIENCE! and dear god what will this actually be used for,Sometimes I think we should cut back on military spending. In fact, I usually do. Then I see stuff like this.
coolbeans90
actually this "stuff" is the only kind of stuff that has ever brought citizens benefits from government. the R&D the government does to better be destructive leads to things like tin foil and the internet. stuff like this may actually help humanity, unlike politics the actual welfare and warfare.it never is keep spending trillion a year on stuff you dont need
osirisx3
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]yea, i am conflicted, stuck between do it because we can because SCIENCE! and dear god what will this actually be used for, definitely RFC... http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-8-2009/military-budget-cutsSometimes I think we should cut back on military spending. In fact, I usually do. Then I see stuff like this.
surrealnumber5
[QUOTE="osirisx3"]actually this "stuff" is the only kind of stuff that has ever brought citizens benefits from government. the R&D the government does to better be destructive leads to things like tin foil and the internet. stuff like this may actually help humanity, unlike politics the actual welfare and warfare. well, nothing turns on the gubment cash spigots like a good ol' fashioned war.it never is keep spending trillion a year on stuff you dont need
surrealnumber5
I don't see this being particularly useful, the plasma would just cool and deionize upon discharge. I bet like several years and millions or billions of dollars later the private contractors solution will be to build a high power laser to heat up and ionize the air in front of the plasma ring to maybe allow it to go farther, which leaves me wondering why not stick with laser weapons.lamprey263thank humanity you are not supreme dictator, i dont like the government picking and choosing where tech development should be, but when compared to your narrower view of what 'should' be developed, i like them more than you. the best choice is not to have top down decisions on what 'should' be developed. but as long as it is that way, the more money spent on R&D in nearly anything is better than any other way governments spend money. it is still a corrupt contracting system, but their is a chance of unintended good here and for government that is the best we can hope for.
I don't see this being particularly useful, the plasma would just cool and deionize upon discharge. I bet like several years and millions or billions of dollars later the private contractors solution will be to build a high power laser to heat up and ionize the air in front of the plasma ring to maybe allow it to go farther, which leaves me wondering why not stick with laser weapons.lamprey263discoveries come from unexpected places.. you never know what may be useful or found discovered by mistake when doing research like this... as an example: the hubble telescope was initially launched w/ a crippling optical defect in it's primary mirror. in the time planning it's repair mission, scientists had to try to work w/ the fuzzy images it produced. a product of that work was better digital image enhancement techniques which clever folk realized could be used to improve cancer screening in medical imagery such as mammography... point is, you never know where research is going to take you.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="osirisx3"]actually this "stuff" is the only kind of stuff that has ever brought citizens benefits from government. the R&D the government does to better be destructive leads to things like tin foil and the internet. stuff like this may actually help humanity, unlike politics the actual welfare and warfare. well, nothing turns on the gubment cash spigots like a good ol' fashioned war. how about a good ol' fashioned "entitlement" ? that seems to put them on full over flow.it never is keep spending trillion a year on stuff you dont need
comp_atkins
[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I don't see this being particularly useful, the plasma would just cool and deionize upon discharge. I bet like several years and millions or billions of dollars later the private contractors solution will be to build a high power laser to heat up and ionize the air in front of the plasma ring to maybe allow it to go farther, which leaves me wondering why not stick with laser weapons.comp_atkinsdiscoveries come from unexpected places.. you never know what may be useful or found discovered by mistake when doing research like this... as an example: the hubble telescope was initially launched w/ a crippling optical defect in it's primary mirror. in the time planning it's repair mission, scientists had to try to work w/ the fuzzy images it produced. a product of that work was better digital image enhancement techniques which clever folk realized could be used to improve cancer screening in medical imagery such as mammography... point is, you never know where research is going to take you. they made the telescope a contact lens because they made it too flat. neato!
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]I don't see this being particularly useful, the plasma would just cool and deionize upon discharge. I bet like several years and millions or billions of dollars later the private contractors solution will be to build a high power laser to heat up and ionize the air in front of the plasma ring to maybe allow it to go farther, which leaves me wondering why not stick with laser weapons.surrealnumber5discoveries come from unexpected places.. you never know what may be useful or found discovered by mistake when doing research like this... as an example: the hubble telescope was initially launched w/ a crippling optical defect in it's primary mirror. in the time planning it's repair mission, scientists had to try to work w/ the fuzzy images it produced. a product of that work was better digital image enhancement techniques which clever folk realized could be used to improve cancer screening in medical imagery such as mammography... point is, you never know where research is going to take you. they made the telescope a contact lens because they made it too flat. neato! glasses technically, but yeah.
yes, nice post, and have you ever checked out the youtube channel smarter every day? he has several vids i think you might enjoy if you enjoyed posting this.So I'm guessing that what they're generating is basically the plasma equivalent of a bubble ring, i.e. a plasma vortex ring in which the poloidal flow of the charged particles generates a magnetic field that sustains the torus shape.
Stesilaus
[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I don't see this being particularly useful, the plasma would just cool and deionize upon discharge. I bet like several years and millions or billions of dollars later the private contractors solution will be to build a high power laser to heat up and ionize the air in front of the plasma ring to maybe allow it to go farther, which leaves me wondering why not stick with laser weapons.comp_atkinsdiscoveries come from unexpected places.. you never know what may be useful or found discovered by mistake when doing research like this... as an example: the hubble telescope was initially launched w/ a crippling optical defect in it's primary mirror. in the time planning it's repair mission, scientists had to try to work w/ the fuzzy images it produced. a product of that work was better digital image enhancement techniques which clever folk realized could be used to improve cancer screening in medical imagery such as mammography... point is, you never know where research is going to take you. oh I'm not denying the benefits of scientific research, but research in something like particle accelerators will yield far more results in fields such as medical imagining that plasma projectile weaponry might
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]I don't see this being particularly useful, the plasma would just cool and deionize upon discharge. I bet like several years and millions or billions of dollars later the private contractors solution will be to build a high power laser to heat up and ionize the air in front of the plasma ring to maybe allow it to go farther, which leaves me wondering why not stick with laser weapons.lamprey263discoveries come from unexpected places.. you never know what may be useful or found discovered by mistake when doing research like this... as an example: the hubble telescope was initially launched w/ a crippling optical defect in it's primary mirror. in the time planning it's repair mission, scientists had to try to work w/ the fuzzy images it produced. a product of that work was better digital image enhancement techniques which clever folk realized could be used to improve cancer screening in medical imagery such as mammography... point is, you never know where research is going to take you. oh I'm not denying the benefits of scientific research, but research in something like particle accelerators will yield far more results in fields such as medical imagining that plasma projectile weaponry might my point was you can't be sure of that.
yes, nice post, and have you ever checked out the youtube channel smarter every day? he has several vids i think you might enjoy if you enjoyed posting this.
surrealnumber5
Ah, thanks for referring me to the SmarterEveryDay channel. I hadn't seen it before, but I can see myself spending a lot of time there now!
:)
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
yes, nice post, and have you ever checked out the youtube channel smarter every day? he has several vids i think you might enjoy if you enjoyed posting this.
Stesilaus
Ah, thanks for referring me to the SmarterEveryDay channel. I hadn't seen it before, but I can see myself spending a lot of time there now!
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz5lGkDdk78 the one that made me sub[QUOTE="lamprey263"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] discoveries come from unexpected places.. you never know what may be useful or found discovered by mistake when doing research like this... as an example: the hubble telescope was initially launched w/ a crippling optical defect in it's primary mirror. in the time planning it's repair mission, scientists had to try to work w/ the fuzzy images it produced. a product of that work was better digital image enhancement techniques which clever folk realized could be used to improve cancer screening in medical imagery such as mammography... point is, you never know where research is going to take you. comp_atkinsoh I'm not denying the benefits of scientific research, but research in something like particle accelerators will yield far more results in fields such as medical imagining that plasma projectile weaponry might my point was you can't be sure of that. actually I'm pretty certain particle research does a great deal to medical imagining due to a major component of that research going toward detection and higher resolution imaging, as well as production of special isotopes used by hospitals in their imagining still plasma research in weapons development could also yield other beneficial results, maybe more efficient methods of plasma production that could maybe be used in space craft or jet propulsion technology or something like that, or maybe to put more force behind projectiles fired from cannons or regular militarized small arms for that matter, I don't doubt that, but I do have doubts about the primary usefulness of the research in using plasma weapons philosophically one can never know for sure where research might lead to other discoveries and their applications, but in a practical sense research would do far better directing resources primarily designed to benefit those areas of research
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