Rap and Hip Hop can make very beautiful music

I just want to take a quick minute in dedicating this thread on behalf of how amazing music and art can be, especially in delivering a universal "language" in so many translations and aspects... Anywho

Taking a break from listening to hordes and hordes of rock music, I began researching tons of classic Hip Hop/Rap artists and albums that have gained respect and are viewed as wonderful pieces of work. I found so many amazing songs and albums, I was just blown away. They just had a completely different dynamic as opposed to most genres in rock and were lyrically poetic and aggressive. Anyone have any personal favorites they would like to share.

As for me, I honestly think this powerful women is perhaps one of the greatest artist of this generation and of time. Fantastic song, and the flow of her poetry is beyond amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phzw1VcM0l8&feature=related

Lauryn Hill is good and she has been in the game for awhile and even when she was part of De La Soul she was amazing. Sadly times have changed and it is no longer about their life experiences in poverty or how they express the hardships on of the streets and ghettos to now it is all about the bling, big cars and fast women.

As for me I pretty much just listen to anything from the late 80's and majority of the 90's but there are some guys coming up from the underground especially in the Midwest region (Michigan, Indiana and Illinois) who are trying to take it back to what Hip-Hop used to be.

Great post; and yeah, Lauryn Hill is great. It's too bad so many people here dismiss hip-hop because of all the negative stereotypes that go with it. JML897

Lauryn Hill is good and she has been in the game for awhile and even when she was part of De La Soul she was amazing. Sadly times have changed and it is no longer about their life experiences in poverty or how they express the hardships on of the streets and ghettos to now it is all about the bling, big cars and fast women.

As for me I pretty much just listen to anything from the late 80's and majority of the 90's but there are some guys coming up from the underground especially in the Midwest region (Michigan, Indiana and Illinois) who are trying to take it back to what Hip-Hop used to be.

xXDrPainXx

Well to start you off you can check out Big Sean out of Detroit, Michigan and Freddie Gibbs out of Gary, Indiana.

Big Sean can be fast and he can keep the pace up while Freddie Gibbs has a more laid back feel to it like Snoop and Dre did in the 90's.

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Lauryn Hill is good and she has been in the game for awhile and even when she was part of De La Soul she was amazing. Sadly times have changed and it is no longer about their life experiences in poverty or how they express the hardships on of the streets and ghettos to now it is all about the bling, big cars and fast women.

As for me I pretty much just listen to anything from the late 80's and majority of the 90's but there are some guys coming up from the underground especially in the Midwest region (Michigan, Indiana and Illinois) who are trying to take it back to what Hip-Hop used to be.

mexicangordo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6rkPsLiEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXqwviDHIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg

I have more but this is just a quick glimpse of what hipHop I listen too! You gonna love 90's Hiphop!

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="xXDrPainXx"]

Lauryn Hill is good and she has been in the game for awhile and even when she was part of De La Soul she was amazing. Sadly times have changed and it is no longer about their life experiences in poverty or how they express the hardships on of the streets and ghettos to now it is all about the bling, big cars and fast women.

As for me I pretty much just listen to anything from the late 80's and majority of the 90's but there are some guys coming up from the underground especially in the Midwest region (Michigan, Indiana and Illinois) who are trying to take it back to what Hip-Hop used to be.

Welis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6rkPsLiEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXqwviDHIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg

I have more but this is just a quick glimpse of what hipHop I listen too! You gonna love 90's Hiphop!

Well to start you off you can check out Big Sean out of Detroit, Michigan and Freddie Gibbs out of Gary, Indiana.

Big Sean can be fast and he can keep the pace up while Freddie Gibbs has a more laid back feel to it like Snoop and Dre did in the 90's.

xXDrPainXx

I want to add Elzhi (Detroit) to that list as well as Black Milk (Detroit) and Vakill (Chicago).

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] You mind telling me what some of those underground artists are? Im doing a column on hip hop now and I am very intrigued at the moment.

mexicangordo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6rkPsLiEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXqwviDHIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg

I have more but this is just a quick glimpse of what hipHop I listen too! You gonna love 90's Hiphop!

Nice to hear you're one real hiphop listeners.. If you are looking for extremely rare and good hiphop songs, here are some:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VYdsC-2wjg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMFMz1JsBp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbbZg--VwS0

Or if you are interested in rare stuff, check my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Welis299

And I'm glad to help! We must spread these words to all ignorants out there!! Real HipHop exist!

Suppose i will do everyone a favour and post the IMO most poetic rapper ever (Yeah i said ever) CYNE
Two songs with Nujabes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrG0qkJgPZkFeather
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjqTiQhOgU8Lady Brown
And for just CYNE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCcssKX2G8Samura's Optics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZROFPUlfqYRunning Water

Some of the best in Hip-Hop right there IMO. Also as mentioned before Blackstar is very good, also check out black thought form the roots.

Id recommend checking out these albums by common

Common - Like water for chocolate, BE, One day it will all make sense

The roots crew also have some decent stuff

Also check out this UK artists

Jehst

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjeBmYd_nRM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqWduiyxY0I&feature=related

While I love some rap and hip hop like Saul Williams, Aesop Rock, and Lauryn Hill, I still think that it can't rival rock. I dont like to compare the genres because they are too different, but no hip hop or rap artist has impressed me as much as some of the best rock musicians like Frank Zappa. Don't get me wrong, I love rap and hip hop, but I cant think of any artist from those genres that are as good as Zappa. I appreciate the poetry in rap, but to me Rock stands out more partly because of the instrumentals, and songwriting.

While I love some rap and hip hop like Saul Williams, Aesop Rock, and Lauryn Hill, I still think that it can't rival rock. I dont like to compare the genres because they are too different, but no hip hop or rap artist has impressed me as much as some of the best rock musicians like Frank Zappa. Don't get me wrong, I love rap and hip hop, but I cant think of any artist from those genres that are as good as Zappa. I appreciate the poetry in rap, but to me Rock stands out more partly because of the instrumentals, and songwriting.

Film-Guy

Lauryn Hill was on top of the world when she debuted. I loved her first album, but after that she kind of went of the rails.

When it comes to hip hop this is great lyrically and instrumentally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noXWN6JHEM4

While I love some rap and hip hop like Saul Williams, Aesop Rock, and Lauryn Hill, I still think that it can't rival rock. I dont like to compare the genres because they are too different, but no hip hop or rap artist has impressed me as much as some of the best rock musicians like Frank Zappa. Don't get me wrong, I love rap and hip hop, but I cant think of any artist from those genres that are as good as Zappa. I appreciate the poetry in rap, but to me Rock stands out more partly because of the instrumentals, and songwriting.

Film-Guy

Lauryn Hill was on top of the world when she debuted. I loved her first album, but after that she kind of went of the rails.

When it comes to hip hop this is great lyrically and instrumentally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noXWN6JHEM4

On3ShotOneKill

Nujabes ft Cise Star-Lady Brown

Very beautiful=3

[QUOTE="Welis"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] You mind telling me what some of those underground artists are? Im doing a column on hip hop now and I am very intrigued at the moment.

mexicangordo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6rkPsLiEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXqwviDHIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg

I have more but this is just a quick glimpse of what hipHop I listen too! You gonna love 90's Hiphop!

You might want to check out Aesop Rock, he is one of my favs (second song's lyrics are to die for)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_W_x3nclY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0VQEfbMwb4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTLwXp4-Chw&feature=related

A little bit of Bay Area old school for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTk79u7wWJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgd3vPF_asE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRRnZPMl4k(my feel-good go-to song lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbjnzuvVACA&feature=related

Some others

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgvFki0nZss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOtZk1oBWEvast aire has an awesome voice

Very beautiful=3

FrostyPhantasm

OMG I loooove Necro, his song about porn stars is awesome....so is the one that is a first-person narration as a drug addict

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Very beautiful=3

mrbojangles25

OMG I loooove Necro, his song about porn stars is awesome....so is the one that is a first-person narration as a drug addict

Agreed. The sax solo on Nas's "Life's a **** is extremely emotional and fits with the song's bleak tale.

Nujabes is my personal favorite

Next up would be Common

Just when y'all thought Queenbridge was a wrap
Nas came back Bridgin' the Gap
Joey Crack told the whole map to Lean Back
For a second you woulda thought New York was takin the scene back
Even Ja dropped a mean track - it went "I'm from New York!"
The first city that have heads to fiend for crack
Now all I hear about is who's a Blood, who's a Crip
Religious leaders only teach half of the truth and ****
I'd rather rock a fake gold crucifix
than them platinum white Jesus faces; he rap like he's a racist
Know a philosopher that reads the pages
So that knowledge I try to keep away from me for ages
(Aww man) It's like I'm in a race against time
Couple years ago I couldn't wait to get signed
I thought automatically that my face'll get shine
But bein lyrical was just a waste of slick rhyme
Cause so, still I annihilate though
The sire lace the place with the fireplace flow
The day y'all could **** with me or Joell Ortiz?
That's the day Hell gon' freeze

I respect Joell Ortiz and I currently like this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QEJqAfAMzU

Rap and Hip Hop can make very beautiful

mexicangordo

yeah i new that for a long time now :lol:

you guys should definitely check out el-p, his beats are light years ahead of anyone else in hip hop. here are a few of his songs and beats:

cannibal ox - pigeon (el-p produced)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgllloQg4

el-p - stepfather factory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UH0B4CSn3w

el-p - squeegee man shooting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9ElIvCk9g&playnext_from=TL&videos=uKHoPtjcNug

At first, I was wondering how a single woman could possibly mix guitar and rap. Skepticism! =D Serves me right that it comes out she was freaking awesome. I just hope we don't have some kid running in this thread spewing the "all Rap sucks" mainstream mentality.ProjectTrinity

[QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"]At first, I was wondering how a single woman could possibly mix guitar and rap. Skepticism! =D Serves me right that it comes out she was freaking awesome. I just hope we don't have some kid running in this thread spewing the "all Rap sucks" mainstream mentality.bc1391

I gotta say, 32 posts in a hip-hop thread without someone coming in and saying it sucks has to be a new record for OT.

[QUOTE="bc1391"]

[QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"]At first, I was wondering how a single woman could possibly mix guitar and rap. Skepticism! =D Serves me right that it comes out she was freaking awesome. I just hope we don't have some kid running in this thread spewing the "all Rap sucks" mainstream mentality.JML897

I gotta say, 32 posts in a hip-hop thread without someone coming in and saying it sucks has to be a new record for OT.

anyone who says hip hop sucks is an idiot and doesn't know what hip hop truly is.

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="bc1391"]Its a Rap thread in OT, its bound to happen sooner or later :P

lazerface216

I gotta say, 32 posts in a hip-hop thread without someone coming in and saying it sucks has to be a new record for OT.

anyone who says hip hop sucks is an idiot and doesn't know what hip hop truly is.

If you want to hear great lyrical skill mixed with what I think is an amazing flow, check out almost any song on Tical 0 by Method Man.

"Y'all tryin' to get me started / Who on the short yellow bus tryin' to get retarded / Kid don't be the artist / Formerly known as artist / Jump off a skyscraper - to prove who hit the hardest" -- The Motto

Man that's some awesome wordplay!

Glad to see you are enjoying some hip-hop:D

For some popular hip-hop artists, check out Outkast, the Pharcyde,De La Soul and A Tribe Called Quest.

For some lesser known artists check out J-Live (he used to be an English teacher so no wonder he's good with words lol), Organized Konfusion, Aceyalone and Binary Star.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="Welis"] Here's some great Hip Hop music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6rkPsLiEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXqwviDHIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg

I have more but this is just a quick glimpse of what hipHop I listen too! You gonna love 90's Hiphop!

You might want to check out Aesop Rock, he is one of my favs (second song's lyrics are to die for)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_W_x3nclY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0VQEfbMwb4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTLwXp4-Chw&feature=related

A little bit of Bay Area old school for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTk79u7wWJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgd3vPF_asE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRRnZPMl4k(my feel-good go-to song lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbjnzuvVACA&feature=related

Some others

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgvFki0nZss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOtZk1oBWEvast aire has an awesome voice

Anyone who isn't ignorant should know that there's a lot of amazing hip hop out there. You can't let the crap that's popular right now define a whole genre.

Glad to see you are enjoying some hip-hop:D

For some popular hip-hop artists, check out Outkast, the Pharcyde,De La Soul and A Tribe Called Quest.

For some lesser known artists check out J-Live (he used to be an English teacher so no wonder he's good with words lol), Organized Konfusion, Aceyalone and Binary Star.

Orlando_Magic

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Ive listened to both Nas and Big before but Blackstar was great! Really enjoyed it thanks

stuttermouth

*list of music*

with rap, I dont really mind the stealing of beats. Its so common place both past and present, and the emphasis should be on the lyrics, rhyming, etc, that the background music really shouldnt matter that much

WOW!! The bay has got to have some of the most recognizable ****cs ever. And Biggie stole the idea of that beat from Dre Dog?! that' a damn shame.stuttermouth

Well it's originally sampled from the 1983 song Juicy Fruit by Mtume. A lot of hip-hop artists have sampled it before both Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog and Biggie Smalls did. Biggie's "Juicy" is just the most popular.

Wreckx N Effect- Juicy (1989)

Prince Markie Dee (of the Fat Boys)- Call My Name (1992)

[QUOTE="stuttermouth"]WOW!! The bay has got to have some of the most recognizable ****cs ever. And Biggie stole the idea of that beat from Dre Dog?! that' a damn shame.Orlando_Magic

Well it's originally sampled from the 1983 song Juicy Fruit by Mtume. A lot of hip-hop artists have sampled it before both Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog and Biggie Smalls did. Biggie's "Juicy" is just the most popular.

Wreckx N Effect- Juicy (1989)

Prince Markie Dee (of the Fat Boys)- Call My Name (1992)

Wow, I am blown away by this thread. Not a single rant, and out of place comment, and this is one of the first times the recommendations of artists have all actually been good. The rap/hip hop enthusiasts should come out more often, very knowledgeable indeed.