Rate your faith in humanity

So what nature do you prefer then? as everything on this entire planet seems to murder / kill / eat eachother.

I think we humans are doing pretty darn well if you think about it.

Sure you got your wars and other teambuilding country motivation training sessions but at the end of the day it's not all that bad.

Bwahahahaha.

Pretty much none whatsoever - and never had any to begin with. But that's okay, because Karma, or as I like to call it, "Cosmic Newton's Third Law" is real, and you talking apes will always get what you deserve.

Humanity as a whole, not higher than 3. I'm pretty sure our countries will be killing each other 3-4 decades from now.

We all start from somewhere we just see and choose to see things differently, it doesn't mean society is bad it just means those who make money of society with conceptualising the result form high university fee's, to high housing costs, to longer time working and retiring, we all start from somewhere but we do not walk in the same shoes or eat from the same spoon, others rationalize their time others ponder why it's not fine, but in the end the goal is the same for everyone, while religion may work one person doesn't mean it will transfer well for everyone.

Affordable housing

Job availability

To find someone regardless of sexuality (love is love)

To have or not have kids

To fix something that was broken

But we we all pay in the end so the next generation can continue human legacy not being greed.

Neutral. So probably 5.

Not everyone is a sociopath. Just most of us. Every once in a while though someone special comes around and challenges that notion. (MLK, Ghandi, Jesus, Buddha etc.)

Yup sounds like an 8 to me...-2 for the murderess crazies & greedy...so 8/10 :P

Pretty much. For starters, I don't see any other species actively trying to protect the environment.

And contrary to the standard apocalyptic scenario seen in movies, most ACTUAL disasters result in huge outpouring of support and cooperation. Or if not support and cooperation, at least you don't usually see MOST people taking the opportunity to f*** everyone over. When a major hurricane or tsunami or terrorist attack happens, MOST people aren't taking the opportunity to loot whatever they can. Instead, what you see is people donating blood and money and time, and people coming together to give what they can to help.

The other day I was in a discussion with some dude about getting eaten by animals and he was saying that the reason we don't have deadly predators eating the hell out of us all the time is because we taste nasty. And that whenever an animal tries human, they decide they don't want to try it any more. And I'm like, no. That's the dead OPPOSITE of how things work. Many species of animal don't NORMALLY eat humans. But once a predator resorts to eating humans and then realizes that we're easy prey, that's how man-eaters are formed.

So if we're so easy prey, why do most predators that can easily f*** us up USUALLY choose to ignore us? Because we're the worst f***ing prey that they could f*** with. Preying on humans is the worst mistake an animal can make, because humans are deadly as hell (definitely the deadliest vertebrate species on the planet, if not the deadliest SPECIES on the planet). WE are apex predators that have wiped out a shitload of species without even trying. And the fact remains that while we might sometimes tolerate the occasional instance of preying on humans, animals that show a pattern of preying on humans tend to get wiped the f*** off the face of the Earth.

So...WHY are we the most deadly animal on the planet? For the same reason that we have stuff like the internet to complaion about how much humanity sucks. And for the same reason why we have predator-free houses where we can sleep safely at night without the fear of being devoured in our sleep by wild animals. For the same reason why we have roads and cars and vaccines. Because despite the fighting that sometimes occurs between us, we're also REALLY f***ing good at coming together and cooperating for the greater good.

I'm not saying that humanity is perfect, but seeing people with jobs and cars and schools and prisons and internet and f***ing movies and video games saying how awful humanity is seems REALLY freaking stupid to me. Would we POSSIBLY have ANY of that stuff if human beings were all just "haha, I like killing people and watching them suffer"?

Furthermore, I'm also noticing a really delusional self-congratulatory aspect here. As in, whenever I hear people talk about how horrible humans are, there's usually an aspect of "the OTHER humans are horrible." Like, whenever you see someone complaining about how stupid humanity is, it's almost always my NEIGHBORS' stupidity or my COWORKERS' stupidity. Rarely do you ever see, "yes we're stupid and horrible, and as evidence let me present you with MY most stupid and horrible actions." The "humanity sucks" viewpoint always seemed more to me like "humanity sucks EXCEPT myself and the relatively few people who I know and love."

Because people don't see the reality of things.

Go be a poor chinese person, and see how there currently god awful western lives they currently live seems like total heaven.

Imagine sitting on a chair playing videogames while eating god dam chips and drinking whatever i want.

That would be something.

Yes, but I think the unibomber was right (methods being horribly wrong) about us becoming too dependent on technology. Those fat blobs that can't do anything in Wall-E probably aren't far off the mark. The Time Machine predicated a future of Elois.

solid 8.5 - 9

sure there are outliers here and there that grab attention but the VAST majority of the 7B+ people on the planet are normal, decent humans working to do the best in the situations they find themselves in.

i think it's odd when someone will use a single incident, no matter how horrendous, to use as judgement for the entirety of humankind.

I would vote number 1 and number 10 because if you can avoid the general public then the world is sunshine and rainbows.

Yeah, exactly. I'm not saying that there aren't problems. I'm not saying that there aren't BIG problems that are worth getting passionate about.

But a little bit of perspective here. Are humans mostly dumb and short sighted and mostly focused on their own self-interests? Sure. But you can also say the exact same thing about every other damn species that has ever existed on this planet. That's just how species tend to avoid (or at least delay) going extinct. I recall someone referencing MLK and Ghandi. Well, can anyone here cite a non-human equivalent of MLK or Ghandi? HUMANS do that kind of stuff, not rabbits or octopi or turtles.

It isn't surprising to me that most problems for humans relate to other humans.

This is the best thread ever! Despite rating my vote to 1, I'll actually rate my faith in humanity 0. You know why? That is because things are getting worse every single day though I always/sometimes look at the brighter side. Some people would say "Always find the brighter side of life" bullshit, which is applicable but not always. A lot of things that I encountered made my faith in humanity 0. That is why being a shut in is worth it. To the point that you need to go out when u need to and yet the best opportunity to be away from people and danger.

Let me cite other examples that made my faith in humanity lose:

1. Religious Hypocrites

2. Philippine Justice System don't give a single shit about justice because of the GODDAMN MONEY!

3. Abusive people

4. Teachers who cares about grades not the learning capacity of the students.

5. Students in my school who are normal people are 50% good and the others have bad vices.

6. It's dangerous outside so I try my best to watch my back as long as I can.

7. People pushing you to be something that you're not.

8. I don't generally hate women but some of them prefer cool guys over nice guys same through with other men.

9. The Philippine Government is in the worst state.

10. Most things in life are not worth living anymore.

and much more soon.

It's worth it to be a shut in to avoid the dangers of the real world.

-10 because of America.

5! Humanity is average, it does everything half right if ever!

All progress in civilization and fixes for problems comes from other humans.

Give it a 5. We have this ability to improve and get better, life now is superior to a couple of hundred years ago. But we are violent by nature and eventually this will cause our demise.

Mankind will destroy itself sooner or later. With the with the current climate in the world right now shit could spiral out of control pretty quick. With Americas never ending thirst for war WW3 could kick off at any moment. The idea that we have troops in the same country as Russia in Syria it has me a bit on edge. Putin makes me very nervous. He's willing to push the envelope and use brute force when it comes to Russia's interests. Trump has no concept of world politics and may cross the line to ignite a conflict to stroke his own ego.

people are born good, look at baby's and children, they are innocent. It's us adults that have to cherish that innocence and with that uphold our humanity.

All sunshine and rainbows isn't possible, but just try to make the best of it. You would be surprised how understanding and compassionate your fellow human being can be.

And I disagree with this too. Children are born as self-centered animals who thinks that the entire world should revolve around them. This is precisely why adults have to teach children morals and ethics and why it's bad to lie and steal and generally screw over other people. Do you think that freaking babies come out of the womb with a sense of ethics or responsibility? No, they're thinking "feed ME" or "I'M sleepy" and so on. People aren't born "good", they're born as self-centered animals. They don't become "good" until they LEARN to grow beyond that kind of crap.

Humanity will be soon destroyed ... That´s my opinion... Maybe I´m pessimist ,but I think it is awful Truth.

so you have faith in humanity because we murder kill and eat each other just like wolves?

Ever bothered to crunch the numbers and look at what PERCENTAGE of people are murdering or killing anyone else?

Yeah, with more than 7 BILLION people on the planet, it's inevitable that some of those people are going to be complete scumbags. Now take those 7 billion people and look at how many of them have EVER murdered another person. Then divide that number by 7 BILLION. What do you get?

What you get is a species that clearly overwhelmingly DOESN'T tend to murder and kill each other.

I am not debating that its inaccurate, I am just saying calling that 'faith' in humanity is not well stated.

I am just saying its a loosers way to look at the universe and the fact that you only focus on that is the tell.

I believe what we see in post-apocalyptic stories like The Last of Us or Metro are indeed true. Not the fictional part about zombies or nuclear radiations but the nature of humanity. Humans are capable of dipping that low any day of the week.

I put 5 down although I think I should of gone lower anyways robots will probably kill us all someday.

Mine has an inverse relationship with Republican approval ratings.

And that's not what Sartre meant by "hell is other people."

Not really. If that were the case, then most people wouldn't be functioning members of society.

Society. That's the key word. That's the thing that almost everyone wants (even the one who complain about how much society sucks). Because without society, it WOULD be a case of living alone in the woods with no heat and no electricity and no internet and no video games and no police to call when someone attacks you and no guns to buy in order to defend yourself when you're attacked. NO ONE (or, almost no one) wants that. That's why most people at least try to do the bare minimum required to reap the positive benefits of a society. Despite the whole "humanity is stupid" angle, MOST people are smart enough to realize that being a functioning member of society is better than being removed from society. That's precisely why there aren't hordes of misanthropes saying "screw society" and then going off to live in the woods and forage off of nuts and berries and rats.

I'm not familiar with Metro series, but The Last of Us specifically deals with a doomsday plague scenario. The thing about that scenario is that it's a deliberately crafted fictional scenario in which society doesn't work specifically BECAUSE anyone in a society gets infected and quickly becomes a rampaging plague monster. Seeing as how we don't have such a plague going around, that sort of makes the comparison inapplicable.

Furthermore, that scenario breaks down even more when you consider that the VILLAINS are only dangerous because they are part of a functioning society. Sure, it might be an EVIL society. It might be a cannibalistic rapist society. But the point is that if the villains weren't able to come together and function as a society, then they wouldn't be a threat to the protagonist. The game is only a challenge because the Lone Hero is up against GROUPS of people who want to kill him. And if the evil cannibalistic rapists are smart enough to team up for the common good, there's zero reason why the GOOD GUYS can't so the same. A more realistic scenario might still have bands of cannibalistic rapists, but they would be a minority. MOST PEOPLE would be turned off by the cannibalism and rape thing. They wouldn't want to do that to other people and they DEFINITELY wouldn't want to have that done to them. So what you'd get are small societies that band together and punish the SHIT out of anyone they think is violating the moral code.

Hell, even in those f***ed up older societies it would tend to be "an eye for an eye." Not "go take as many eyes as you can because that shit's fun." Most people don't like having to murder and rape and eat people just in order to survive, and people flock to societies in which they don't have to do that crap.

Again, the notion that people regularly do that stuff is misguided and wrong. Sure, you CAN get most people to do all sorts of messed upo shit with the proper conditioning. But if that's how people just tended to be, then the murder rate would be a LOT f***ing higher.

Another thing: I wonder if there's any positive correlation between people who see humanity as crap, and people who actually treat other people as crap. Not sure if there is, but I wouldn't doubt it. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the people harping on how much humans suck are EXACTLY the kinds of people who are more like to go out and to the kinds of bad shit to other people that they're complaining about in the first place. The point still stands that it's a lot easier to do some nasty shit to a person if you already think he/she is worthless. And the people who are constantly talking about how worthless HUMANITY is don't exactly strike me as the kinds of people who'd be likely to help out in a disaster situation. It'd be a lot easier to screw them over and take advantage of them if they're already seen as being pieces of shit just due to being "other people." I sort of already have a pre-disposed bias against people who think that humanity is shit, because why wouldn't I? If those people think that humanity sucks, then they probably think that I suck. And I'd probably better watch my back around them because if they think I'm a worthless piece of shit then it's a lot more likely that they'll try to f*** me over and then say that I deserved it.

....3. Really tried to look at it in a glass half full type of way but history of humanity makes it hard to just look at things as if they were sunshine and rainbows....

Lucky number 7