Relationship + Friendship Problems - (yes another one...)

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#1 Disturbed123
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Im going to keep this short:

Now, I know 2 girls who are mates with my GF, they actually knew my GF way before hand but i got to know them and became good mates with them and they introduced me to her, got to know each other, 2 years later and we are still together and happy, or so I thought.

few months bk it was my birthday and my gf arranged a suprise birthday. Totally appreciated it and was very happy, things began to break down when her friends (who were also at the birthday party) start talking smack behind my back. Fair play, doesnt bother me much. My GF mentioned it and I told em her i couldnt bond because they were acting immature, but I did try at the end of the day. She said fair enough.

2 Months later (now), my GFs family have introduced a guy to her, and her family is quite religious and follows the old "marry within family" crap, their own weird traditions. She told me about it and I told her that we agreed to get married next year as I finish uni and I can make an income. She said ok and was happy with the decision. She then went to her friends and they have now actually encouraged her to marry this new guy, and I kind of got pissed off because I thought these gals were my mates, I got to know them before her. This has lead my GF confused. I told my GF this that WTF is your mates problem with me, and get this, the smack that was said to be back in november on my bday by her mates has gotten around to all her mates and now they all think bad of me, thus, they are pushing this marriage.

I spoke to her friend who introduced us and she had no leg to stand on and became a game of insults, I log onto my GFs profile and there has been alot of smack being talked behind my back and encouraging this new guy. I close my FB page today as I have a tendancy to be hooked on it for a while :P and then log onto my GFs profile again just to see wats the latest, and it seems the 2 girls are now **** about me. They actually find all this crap im going through "hilarious". Not that Im fussed but makes me question who my mates really are.

In 2 hours or so this new guy is coming to my GFs house, and shes confused as heck. Shes quite weak willed and will side with her family more then me in this situation.

What are your thoughts? Any word of advice ?

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I think it's up to your girlfriend to choose. And for you to accept that. It's not her friends fault...she should tell them not to talk about you. It's not her families fault...it's hers. If she loved you.....she'd NOT be allowing her friends to insult you, meet with a new guy, and she'd stand up to her family.
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#3 cd_rom
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Knock out the other guy. Ride off into the sunset on your motorcycle with your girl behind you.
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What does one do when competition arises? Eliminate it.

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#5 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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You can't choose for her. Let her decide and go from there.
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#6 Franklinstein
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Listen man, LJ_Basic is right, it's her choice, the hardest thing in life is dealing with people who you care about and their choices. You need to calmly sit her down and tell her how you feel about the situation, explain to her that if she breaks your heart, you're not going to give her another chance. And most importantly, you need to figure out how to be happy without her, regardless if she decides to stay with you or not. The biggest problem that people make in relationships is that they become so dependent on the other person that it drives them away. Relationships should be two independent people that are able to depend on each other for happiness, but as some really cheesy rock band said, "if you squeeze too tightly, you're going to lose control".
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#7 Agent-Zero
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I wouldn't consider dating someone who's family marries within family anyways. Her parents are probably brother and sister.
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#8 rawsavon
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Why would you want to marry someone that: 1. is not sure they want to be with you 2. is so easily swayed
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#9 XilePrincess
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I wouldn't get mixed up in a family that marries within itself. Just sayin'.
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One word,

Chloroform

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#11 binpink
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Your gf sounds a bit clueless. If she can't even manage to stick up for herself or you, you might be better off if she does leave. Look how much drama is created because she won't actually do anything or support your relationship. Is that likely to change?

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#12 Oleg_Huzwog
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I would like to hear more about the "marry within family" thing.

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#13 Disturbed123
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What i mean by family is just within close friends of her mothers or fathers, far cousins, etc.

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#14 Franklinstein
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Trust me man, chasing her will only drive her farther away, you have to just sit back and let her know that if she leaves you, she can't ever have you back.
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#15 Fable_w8ter
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Arranged mariages, inbreeding, and doesn't make her own decisions you sure picked a winner :P move on and find a sane girl.

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#16 jwsoul
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I think it's up to your girlfriend to choose. And for you to accept that. It's not her friends fault...she should tell them not to talk about you. It's not her families fault...it's hers. If she loved you.....she'd NOT be allowing her friends to insult you, meet with a new guy, and she'd stand up to her family.LJS9502_basic
Dunno if its quite as simple as that. Tho its not ideal! Really she should not be meeting this guy. She could just tell her family NO i do not want to meet him i am in a relationship.
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#17 jwsoul
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Trust me man, chasing her will only drive her farther away, you have to just sit back and let her know that if she leaves you, she can't ever have you back.Franklinstein
That may also promote her to take the easy ride. A certain amount of chase is good i think but i myself could do well to listen to your advice.
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#18 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Trust me man, chasing her will only drive her farther away, you have to just sit back and let her know that if she leaves you, she can't ever have you back.jwsoul
That may also promote her to take the easy ride. A certain amount of chase is good i think but i myself could do well to listen to your advice.

I could use my own advice. It's much easier said than done. The only reason I even know this is because it's happened to me before. It's kind of still happening, honestly. The key to happiness is not finding someone, it's learning to be happy with yourself.
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#19 Disturbed123
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Well, good news is the guy has cancelled to meet today

bad news is hes bringing his whole family on saturday

I have a day n a bit to come up with a solid solution, after thatt ill drill her stupid friends.

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#20 rawsavon
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Another thing, why would anyone ever try to 'chase' someone or 'convince' them (honest question)
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#21 curono
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Tell her You want to be with me or not? Simple as that.
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#22 Disturbed123
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Tell her You want to be with me or not? Simple as that.curono

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

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#23 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="curono"]Tell her You want to be with me or not? Simple as that.Disturbed123

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?
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#24 turtlethetaffer
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It's her decision...

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who is better looking, you or this other lad?

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="curono"]Tell her You want to be with me or not? Simple as that.rawsavon

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?

To me it sounds like she is sure she wants to marry TC but she doesn't want to disappoint her friends/mom.
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

nintendoman562

I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?

To me it sounds like she is sure she wants to marry TC but she doesn't want to disappoint her friends/mom.

Would you want to be married to someone that did not place you above family and friends.
The biggest mistake people make in marriage is in assuming that people will change after they get married...they are still that same person you married

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="curono"]Tell her You want to be with me or not? Simple as that.rawsavon

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?

I'm sure you have considered this, but I would say there is a certain level of excitement that comes from chasing or being chased. People aren't always 100% sure of what they want, and need the reassurance that comes from someone pushing it a little.

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#29 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="mowcher"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?

I'm sure you have considered this, but I would say there is a certain level of excitement that comes from chasing or being chased. People aren't always 100% sure of what they want, and need the reassurance that comes from someone pushing it a little.

There is a vast difference in the start of a relationship (court/pursue/etc) and one that is two years in. If you have to pursue/convince someone to be with after 2 years, then there are some serious issues/red flags there
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

As previous members have said, easier said then done. She already is planning to say no, thing can be easily be influenced in saying yes by her parents as they are quite a hard hitter, and I genuinely do want to be with her as shes treating me amazingly over the last 2 years, only thing is shes not strong minded. She needs training in that department GRRR

nintendoman562

I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?

To me it sounds like she is sure she wants to marry TC but she doesn't want to disappoint her friends/mom.

To me it sounds like she doesn't know what she wants....and she gives him the answer he seeks....just as she does with her family and friends. She's definitely not ready for marriage.

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Kill her friends and frame that guy she's meeting.

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[QUOTE="mowcher"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] I will ask again: Why would you ever want to be with someone (let alone marry them), if they are not sure they want to be with you? Why would anyone chase someone or try to convince them?rawsavon

I'm sure you have considered this, but I would say there is a certain level of excitement that comes from chasing or being chased. People aren't always 100% sure of what they want, and need the reassurance that comes from someone pushing it a little.

There is a vast difference in the start of a relationship (court/pursue/etc) and one that is two years in. If you have to pursue/convince someone to be with after 2 years, then there are some serious issues/red flags there

I mistook your post for a more general question, I agree after 2 years convincing should be at a minimum. If you really want this lady to marry you TC, I guess you'll have to be more persuasive than those working against you. Good luck man.