Religion is slowly declining for technology and science

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

No I think it's just their free will. I didn't have a lot of cool gadgets growing up and I still didn't care for religion.

Technology and science improve all the time. But religion is still strong.

LOL, yeah because the Terminator, Fallout, Mad Max, The Matrix won't happen. Oh man, a utopia will be here soon. No more greed, bad parents, poverty, famine, war, disease, and crime. It'll all be gone soon! No more murder or rape! No more cheating, stealing, or any kind of violence! Oh man, I can't wait!Orayus

Uhh, what?

I think we're just replacing one bad thing with another.PernicioEnigma

oh brother :roll:

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

indzman

people protest vaccines.

TN is trying to pass laws to get mythology taught as an "alternate theory".

worthless natural snake oil herbal medicines are selling like mad.

rich well fed western interests are convincing 3rd world leaders it's better to die a slow death from starvation than to import gmo foods.

g.w. bush encouraged the teaching of intelligent design and killed stem cell research.

the list goes on and on.

scientific progress has not had this kind of organized resistance since the dark ages.

Religion will decline but it will never go away. Considering a lot of religions are part of a culture them going away would require the abolishing of said culture that the religion is part of.

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Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

Riverwolf007

people protest vaccines.

TN is trying to pass laws to get mythology taught as an "alternate theory".

worthless natural snake oil herbal medicines are selling like mad.

rich well fed western interests are convincing 3rd world leaders it's better to die a slow death from starvation than to import gmo foods.

g.w. bush encouraged the teaching of intelligent design and killed stem cell research.

the list goes on and on.

scientific progress has not had this kind of organized resistance since the dark ages.

The TC is talking about consumer technology, not science.

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[QUOTE="indzman"]

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

worlock77

people protest vaccines.

TN is trying to pass laws to get mythology taught as an "alternate theory".

worthless natural snake oil herbal medicines are selling like mad.

rich well fed western interests are convincing 3rd world leaders it's better to die a slow death from starvation than to import gmo foods.

g.w. bush encouraged the teaching of intelligent design and killed stem cell research.

the list goes on and on.

scientific progress has not had this kind of organized resistance since the dark ages.

The TC is talking about consumer technology, not science.

I find it funny how people are ignoring my postOrayus

I find it funny how people are ignoring my postOrayus

I find it funny how you're ignoring the reply to your post.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]what are you talking about? there is an all out war against science right now.

people protest vaccines.

TN is trying to pass laws to get mythology taught as an "alternate theory".

worthless natural snake oil herbal medicines are selling like mad.

rich well fed western interests are convincing 3rd world leaders it's better to die a slow death from starvation than to import gmo foods.

g.w. bush encouraged the teaching of intelligent design and killed stem cell research.

the list goes on and on.

scientific progress has not had this kind of organized resistance since the dark ages.

Riverwolf007

The TC is talking about consumer technology, not science.

I think what the TC's getting at is that religion is on the decline while people seemingly worship consumer electronics.

[QUOTE="Orayus"]I find it funny how people are ignoring my postFirebird-5

It doesn't? So evil, bad people will just die out soon, right? No more arrogant, selfish, egotistical, narcissistic, greedy, spoiled, and corrupt people?

"Methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things the of the faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are" (CCC 159). The Catholic Church has no fear of science or scientific discovery. Catechism of the Catholic Church

religion in the west is fading but because we did it ourselves . when the crusaders sacked constaitiople that caused a massive division between chritains and made chritanity after progessivly turn weaker till what it is now . religion in the east is strong because for a long time they have been unitied only breaking up after ww1 ,but their faith isnt really divided today its still strong

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"][QUOTE="Orayus"]I find it funny how people are ignoring my postOrayus

It doesn't? So evil, bad people will just die out soon, right? No more arrogant, selfish, egotistical, narcissistic, greedy, spoiled, and corrupt people?

Please carefully read the TC's original post then tell us what ether of your posts have to do with the topic.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

The TC is talking about consumer technology, not science.

worlock77

I think what the TC's getting at is that religion is on the decline while people seemingly worship consumer electronics.

80% of the people in the usa are some sort of christian denomination.

the problem is these folks go to church and the pastor (or whatever) tells them the world is full of sinners and never before has wickedness been so rampant and they believe it without doing any fact checking.

More of a freewill kind of thing. It's not because of technology.

religion in the west is fading but because we did it ourselves . when the crusaders sacked constaitiople that caused a massive division between chritains and made chritanity after progessivly turn weaker till what it is now . religion in the east is strong because for a long time they have been unitied only breaking up after ww1 ,but their faith isnt really divided today its still strong

sinpkr

I don't think this is true at all.

[QUOTE="Orayus"]I find it funny how people are ignoring my postDroidPhysX

No, I like girls, just find it confusing that people are trying to convince us that homosexuality is normal when everybody knows deep down inside it's not. Anyways, I could care less about that anymore. We're moving away from liberty, freedom and democracy. I'm quite certain we'll be living under a one world government under a dictator soon. 9/11 was an inside job and in the coming decades it'll be a dystopia. I have no more faith and hope in hummanity.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]well that makes little sense either since you can put the bible on your phone and go to religious chat rooms or watch an evangelical tv broadcast.

Riverwolf007

I think what the TC's getting at is that religion is on the decline while people seemingly worship consumer electronics.

80% of the people in the usa are some sort of christian denomination.

the problem is these folks go to church and the pastor (or whatever) tells them the world is full of sinners and never before has wickedness been so rampant and they believe it without doing any fact checking.

Most, well maybe not most but a rather large number of people, identify as Christian simply because that's their cultural background. Maybe they nominally believe in God/Jesus and all that, but they don't really even go to church, save for perhaps on Easter and Christmas, and it doesn't play a signifigant role in their lives overall. The church I use to attend (before I completely left the Christian faith) saw it's regular attendance drop by something like 70% in a decade. Eventually they had to close the church down and merge its congregation to another local church that had also fallen somewhat on hard times.

No it's because post 1880, a mechanist origin of life was deemed possible (because scientists discovered we are made up of carbon, hydrogen, etc; and since this is possible, people don't want to adhere to His laws, so they stop believing. Also since religion has been decreasing in western culture (the culture itself), people have been taught less about God and religion. Personally I am Catholic and I believe that there is a God and I believe the Catechism sums up my beliefs quite well on the matter: [QUOTE="Catechism of the Catholic Church"] "Methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things the of the faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are" (CCC 159). The Catholic Church has no fear of science or scientific discovery. ChampionoChumps

(ok ok technically they just imprisioned him and ruined his life)

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"]No it's because post 1880, a mechanist origin of life was deemed possible (because scientists discovered we are made up of carbon, hydrogen, etc; and since this is possible, people don't want to adhere to His laws, so they stop believing. Also since religion has been decreasing in western culture (the culture itself), people have been taught less about God and religion. Personally I am Catholic and I believe that there is a God and I believe the Catechism sums up my beliefs quite well on the matter: [QUOTE="Catechism of the Catholic Church"] "Methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things the of the faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are" (CCC 159). The Catholic Church has no fear of science or scientific discovery. Riverwolf007

(ok ok technically they just imprisioned him and ruined his life)

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[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"]ChampionoChumps

(ok ok technically they just imprisioned him and ruined his life)

Right. The Catholic church today, moreso that pretty much any other Christian denomination, champions science. And it was actually a Catholic priest who came up with the Big Bang Theory.

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

indzman

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Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

pygmahia5

People were not stupider back then. They just didn't have as much knowledge as we do now.

I want a cheese sandwitch.

[QUOTE="pygmahia5"][QUOTE="indzman"]

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

GreySeal9

People were not stupider back then. They just didn't have as much knowledge as we do now.

I think the decline in religion is more so related to our growth of knowledge.

Let's look at older times:

The Greeks belived that Demeter, controlled the seasons of earth.

They also belived that Helios used a chariot to move the earth across the sky.

With modern science:

We know that the season is a result of the earth's tilt.

We know now that the Earth actually rotates the sun, and that gravity makes us feel like we never move even though we are constantly moving.

I just think gods were used to explain the things we couldn't understand, and I think the same is true of today. The more things we understand, it seems the less we depend on the gods to explain things. We have even declined in the number of gods that most religions worship. We have gone from polytheism to monotheism in most religions of the world today. But now we understand a lot of rules of physics and why they are the way they are. The real problem now is just finding out where they started. Were they created by some external higher authority? Or were they created out of nothing? The world may never know.

And I will admit, I am obsessed with my phone, it's pretty cool to have access to a ton of information all day long, but most of the time I use it in practical ways like for my homework and trying to get around town without a car by using public transport. It's been a tool that makes my life a bunch easier, but it's not like I couldn't live without it. I'd be depressed and actually have to plan things, but I guess it would be alright.

tech and science are constantly proving the reasons for many things occuring, religion never did that nor will it ever, and people are just moving on.

obsession over material goods i tend to think make people less religious.

That said there are lot of reasons why people tend to be less religious.

but if i may be so bold, i would argue that while state-sponsored religiousity is on the decline, people's religious beliefs and devotions have not changed.

From what i gather the normal Muslim man or woman in their various levels of belief, are not all that different now as they were 1000 years ago. For some religion is word for word the literal meaning of the passage, others draw out higher meaning, and others disregard parts of it. Not all that different from today.

I think it's a testament of the strength of most of the current popular religions from the Abrahamic ones, Hinduasim, Buddhism, etc. As to how reflexive they are to the readers and the believers. It all depends on who and how one reads their scripture or comes do an understanding that they can see how people can still believe today.

technology may put a dent, but i don't believe technology or science or consumer goods alone or combined will wipe out religion.

technology is more often then not just a tool, not something that outright denounces religion.

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

indzman

I'd say bad. It's sad to see that people have moved so far away from belief and religion just because of the corruption in the institutions. I'm a Christian because of the beliefs involved, not because of loyalty to a church. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy going to church, but I always saw belief (in the Christian sense) as a relationship with God, which I believe can only do good, while the faulty people within the institutions are one of the causes of making people move away from it (such as Westboro Baptist Church and all of the Catholic Church shenanigans).

Nowadays people are more interested in technology , gadgets over religion . Young generation hardly interested in religion nowadays , they more interested in mobile texting , ipod tunes , and computers ( gaming , internet ) . Include fast cars .

Is it good or bad OT ?

P.S

I care as i'm a religious person myself .

indzman

Um...how is this an either/or type of thing?

Do most religions prohibit the use of modern technology?

And considering how much the people here talk about religion (while basically just repeating the same old arguments over and over again as if it was some shocking new discovery), it'd appear that the "younger generation" is EXTREMELY interested in religion.

LOL, yeah because the Terminator, Fallout, Mad Max, The Matrix won't happen. Oh man, a utopia will be here soon. No more greed, bad parents, poverty, famine, war, disease, and crime. It'll all be gone soon! No more murder or rape! No more cheating, stealing, or any kind of violence! Oh man, I can't wait!Orayus

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Orayus"]I find it funny how people are ignoring my postOrayus

No, I like girls, just find it confusing that people are trying to convince us that homosexuality is normal when everybody knows deep down inside it's not. Anyways, I could care less about that anymore. We're moving away from liberty, freedom and democracy. I'm quite certain we'll be living under a one world government under a dictator soon. 9/11 was an inside job and in the coming decades it'll be a dystopia. I have no more faith and hope in hummanity.

*grabs popcorn*

Religion is going away because of gadgets? What led you to this conclusion?

And considering how much the people here talk about religion (while basically just repeating the same old arguments over and over again as if it was some shocking new discovery), it'd appear that the "younger generation" is EXTREMELY interested in religion.

MrGeezer

Ha!! Well said.