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#1 Tuky06
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After deeply thinking about it I decided I didn't want to be a christian anymore or any other religion for that matter.It makes me unhappy to know that no matter what I do in life the only things that will count at the end are my good or bad deeds. It makes me look at life as something boring that would end soon. It's demotivational to me, and I don't work that way. I would like to live life instead of starting packing up for what lies after it.

The problem begins when I tell my mother about, she goes nuts and tells me I'm too young to make a decision like that and starts blaming my music, games and other things. I thought she would take it on a lighter way. Now she says I'm just confused, but I'm dead serious.

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

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After deeply thinking about it I decided I didn't want to be a christian anymore or any other religion for that matter.It makes me unhappy to know that no matter what I do in life the only things that will count at the end are my good or bad deeds. It makes me look at life as something boring that would end soon. It's demotivational to me, and I don't work that way. I would like to live life instead of starting packing up for what lies after it.

The problem begins when I tell my mother about, she goes nuts and tells me I'm too young to make a decision like that and starts blaming my music, games and other things. I thought she would take it on a lighter way. Now she says I'm just confused, but I'm dead serious.

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

Tuky06
Just because you don't believe in it anymore doesn't mean it no longer exists. You have lived poorly and are now afraid to go to hell, you think that by being ignorant God will forgive you? NO!
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*waits to get flamed* *readies shield*
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After deeply thinking about it I decided I didn't want to be a christian anymore or any other religion for that matter.It makes me unhappy to know that no matter what I do in life the only things that will count at the end are my good or bad deeds. It makes me look at life as something boring that would end soon. It's demotivational to me, and I don't work that way. I would like to live life instead of starting packing up for what lies after it.

The problem begins when I tell my mother about, she goes nuts and tells me I'm too young to make a decision like that and starts blaming my music, games and other things. I thought she would take it on a lighter way. Now she says I'm just confused, but I'm dead serious.

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

Tuky06

Not true, dude. It is not by actions that one is accepted into Heaven it is whether or not they believe in Jesus Christ.

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religion does not make life any shorter. i am very happy and im a christian. To be honest i dont think about death and the afterlife that much. its just comforting to me knowing that God loves me and that when the day comes and im not on this earth anymore i will be in a better place.
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Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it.
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Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. dracula_16
She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.
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#8 Tuky06
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Why would I bash you? anyways, I respect religion and everything, I'm not against it and I'm thankful for all the good things I learned from it, such as "do unto others as you would like others to do unto you". But I just don't agree with many things in it, and as I said, I don't work that way.
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[QUOTE="metaldude05"]diclaimer Tuky06
Why would I bash you? anyways, I respect religion and everything, I'm not against it and I'm thankful for all the good things I learned from it, such as "do unto others as you would like others to do unto you". But I just don't agree with many things in it, and as I said, I don't work that way.

What don't you agree with? Just wondering... >_>

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. l0ve
She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.

That doesn't give her the right to impose her beliefs on him.

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[QUOTE="l0ve"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. dracula_16

She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.

That doesn't give her the right to impose her beliefs on him.

True, but there's nothing wrong if she gave her consent.

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[QUOTE="metaldude05"]diclaimer Tuky06
Why would I bash you? anyways, I respect religion and everything, I'm not against it and I'm thankful for all the good things I learned from it, such as "do unto others as you would like others to do unto you". But I just don't agree with many things in it, and as I said, I don't work that way.

That is my sig. being a christian im drawn to post in religion threads and sometimes debate about reiligion. im fine with debating as long as all parties are respectful. i put that there because alot of people arent like you and don't respect christianity or any other belief but theres. i put it there in hopes people would think twice before quoting me bashing my beliefs. its not towards any one person though

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#13 CorpsePit
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Unfortunately TC, your Heaven and Hell situation depends entirely on what part of the bible you read. At some points, you will go to hell unless you believe in god, and live a faithful life. At other points, god forgives all sins. If you are having a genuine crisis of faith, it is best to talk with people, such as your Family, and your Priest, Minister, Preacher, Rabbi, Voodoo Witch Doctor.

As far as your mother goes, the bible teaches forgiveness, she will get over it, she may never approve, but it won't be a problem.

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[QUOTE="Tuky06"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]diclaimer battlefront23

Why would I bash you? anyways, I respect religion and everything, I'm not against it and I'm thankful for all the good things I learned from it, such as "do unto others as you would like others to do unto you". But I just don't agree with many things in it, and as I said, I don't work that way.

What don't you agree with? Just wondering... >_>

The way they damn to hell people like homosexuals and human nature and the hypocrisy of the church, and don't make me elaborate about it, let's just say... my mother, she doesn't even go to church
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[QUOTE="l0ve"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. dracula_16

She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.

That doesn't give her the right to impose her beliefs on him.

As the mother she does have that right.
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After deeply thinking about it I decided I didn't want to be a christian anymore or any other religion for that matter.It makes me unhappy to know that no matter what I do in life the only things that will count at the end are my good or bad deeds. It makes me look at life as something boring that would end soon. It's demotivational to me, and I don't work that way. I would like to live life instead of starting packing up for what lies after it.

The problem begins when I tell my mother about, she goes nuts and tells me I'm too young to make a decision like that and starts blaming my music, games and other things. I thought she would take it on a lighter way. Now she says I'm just confused, but I'm dead serious.

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

Tuky06

If she's a fundie, then there is no way you can get her to acknowledge or accept your new line of thinking. Just ignore her. I haven't been a Christian for 5 years now and my mother still blames it on silly things like the internet and television.

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. l0ve
She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.

And I'm bothered by you attempting to shove your religion down someone's throat.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Tuky06"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]diclaimer Tuky06

Why would I bash you? anyways, I respect religion and everything, I'm not against it and I'm thankful for all the good things I learned from it, such as "do unto others as you would like others to do unto you". But I just don't agree with many things in it, and as I said, I don't work that way.

What don't you agree with? Just wondering... >_>

The way they damn to hell people like homosexuals and human nature and the hypocrisy of the church, and don't make me elaborate about it, let's just say... my mother, she doesn't even go to church

Well that is they practice homosexuality. I think if you don't try to fight against it and be celibate you won't go to heaven, but to be honest I have no idea but it is an abomination. If you ask for forgiveness, you're good I think. Human nature? What do you mean? Well the hypocrisy of the church isn't a valid reason imo. The church ISN'T God after all. ;) Oh oops you asked me to not ask you to elaborate. My bad. :P Well is your mom a hypocrite or something?

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Tuky06"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]diclaimer Tuky06

Why would I bash you? anyways, I respect religion and everything, I'm not against it and I'm thankful for all the good things I learned from it, such as "do unto others as you would like others to do unto you". But I just don't agree with many things in it, and as I said, I don't work that way.

What don't you agree with? Just wondering... >_>

The way they damn to hell people like homosexuals and human nature and the hypocrisy of the church, and don't make me elaborate about it, let's just say... my mother, she doesn't even go to church

Those are all extreme situations. God or the bible does not teach to condemn. Those are people who have badly mistaken God's intentions. he does not approve of sins but also does not approve of the people who carry the signs say "God hates Gays" because that is simply not the truth. and as for hypocrisy we are all humans which meand everyone is flawed no one is exempt

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[QUOTE="Tuky06"]

After deeply thinking about it I decided I didn't want to be a christian anymore or any other religion for that matter.It makes me unhappy to know that no matter what I do in life the only things that will count at the end are my good or bad deeds. It makes me look at life as something boring that would end soon. It's demotivational to me, and I don't work that way. I would like to live life instead of starting packing up for what lies after it.

The problem begins when I tell my mother about, she goes nuts and tells me I'm too young to make a decision like that and starts blaming my music, games and other things. I thought she would take it on a lighter way. Now she says I'm just confused, but I'm dead serious.

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

Bunyatto

If she's a fundie, then there is no way you can get her to acknowledge or accept your new line of thinking. Just ignore her. I haven't been a Christian for 5 years now and my mother still blames it on silly things like the internet and television.

Can I ask you why you fell away?

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How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

Tuky06

Tell her she's being ignorant. Your time on earth is yours, anything after that belongs to God, IF he exists. IF he does you will see the error of your ways and be sorry/repent when the time comes.

Until then, it's not up to your mother to judge you. If she does tell her she's misinterpreting Christianity.

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[QUOTE="Tuky06"]

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

DigitalExile

Tell her she's being ignorant. Your time on earth is yours, anything after that belongs to God, IF he exists. IF he does you will see the error of your ways and be sorry/repent when the time comes.

Until then, it's not up to your mother to judge you. If she does tell her she's misinterpreting Christianity.

But how does one know when the time will come? On the deathbed?

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[QUOTE="l0ve"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. Bloodaxe726

She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.

And I'm bothered by you attempting to shove your religion down someone's throat.

LOL, yeah true. But the same could be said for atheists trying to rip religion out of Christian throats. Not all but some.
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="Tuky06"]

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

battlefront23

Tell her she's being ignorant. Your time on earth is yours, anything after that belongs to God, IF he exists. IF he does you will see the error of your ways and be sorry/repent when the time comes.

Until then, it's not up to your mother to judge you. If she does tell her she's misinterpreting Christianity.

But how does one know when the time will come? On the deathbed?

When he gets sent to St Peter that will be the time. Or, you know, whatever happens during rapture.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="Tuky06"]

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

DigitalExile

Tell her she's being ignorant. Your time on earth is yours, anything after that belongs to God, IF he exists. IF he does you will see the error of your ways and be sorry/repent when the time comes.

Until then, it's not up to your mother to judge you. If she does tell her she's misinterpreting Christianity.

But how does one know when the time will come? On the deathbed?

When he gets sent to St Peter that will be the time. Or, you know, whatever happens during rapture.

You realize that when you die, it's too late? Right?

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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="Tuky06"]

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

battlefront23

Tell her she's being ignorant. Your time on earth is yours, anything after that belongs to God, IF he exists. IF he does you will see the error of your ways and be sorry/repent when the time comes.

Until then, it's not up to your mother to judge you. If she does tell her she's misinterpreting Christianity.

But how does one know when the time will come? On the deathbed?

When he gets sent to St Peter that will be the time. Or, you know, whatever happens during rapture.

You realize that when you die, it's too late? Right?

Says who? You? The Bible?
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="Tuky06"]

How do I get things straight with her without she thinking I'm doing drugs or something?

DigitalExile

Tell her she's being ignorant. Your time on earth is yours, anything after that belongs to God, IF he exists. IF he does you will see the error of your ways and be sorry/repent when the time comes.

Until then, it's not up to your mother to judge you. If she does tell her she's misinterpreting Christianity.

But how does one know when the time will come? On the deathbed?

When he gets sent to St Peter that will be the time. Or, you know, whatever happens during rapture.

You realize that when you die, it's too late? Right?

Says who? You? The Bible?

The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

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The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

battlefront23

Your self conscience :S

Unless the thing you feel when you do something wrong come from the bibble.

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god won't let you drink pee in heaven anyways, so good choice!
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

astiop

Your self conscience :S

Unless the thing you feel when you do something wrong come from the bibble.

Proof? Links? Any scientific evidence?

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The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

battlefront23

Because not knowing is different to knowing, and doing it anyway.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

DigitalExile

Because not knowing is different to knowing, and doing it anyway.

Not knowing? Hmm... interesting. I know exactly why you say that too... But I got to go to bed I think. >_>

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[QUOTE="astiop"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

battlefront23

Your self conscience :S

Unless the thing you feel when you do something wrong come from the bibble.

Proof? Links? Any scientific evidence?

How about empirical? Or do you actualy think all atheists wouldn't really give a **** about other peoples feelings/lifes/rights? You think I would feel nothing if I killed someone or hurt them or that I would be able to forgive myself if I did?

And I find it extremely ironic that you would ask for scientific evidence when you denny science and the evidence it provides in other subjects.

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#34 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

The latter. What would the point of life be then if you could ask for forgiveness after you're dead? What would stop me from having one night stands, murdering people, stealing, etc.?

battlefront23

Because not knowing is different to knowing, and doing it anyway.

Not knowing? Hmm... interesting. I know exactly why you say that too... But I got to go to bed I think. >_>

Because not everyone on this planet is brought up in the same household with the same over-bearing parent.

You could have just said your thoughts in the same post. Alas, it matters not.

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In christianity your saved by grace, not deeds.
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In christianity your saved by grace, not deeds.123625

but not everyone is graceful! drinking pee helps though.

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In all honesty their is bound to be some biased views within this forum. I personally take a critical view on religion and tend to read into the truth and message behind the religion before making a definite decision. It seems you think similarly to me, does religion appeal to you? I take life as it comes before me, if you can't prove it, it doesn't exist. I am materialistic.

As far as telling your mother, if your mother doesnt accept you because your beleifs are differant to hers then something is wrong. You as an individual are allowed to beleive what you want to beleive and think what you want to think, if you mother cant accept that you are an aetheist then there is no hope for the next generation of teenagers. Talk to her about how you feel, she will understand.

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How about empirical? Or do you actualy think all atheists wouldn't really give a **** about other peoples feelings/lifes/rights? You think I would feel nothing if I killed someone or hurt them or that I would be able to forgive myself if I did?

And I find it extremely ironic that you would ask for scientific evidence when you denny science and the evidence it provides in other subjects.

astiop

you sir are truly legendary.

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Here's the thing. Yes, people have personal values, but if we're guided just by that, well, there's a lot of people whose morals don't have the good of others in mind ,and Do you have any scientific discoveries that actually conflict with the Bible?

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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="l0ve"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]Frankly I don't see why it's any of her business. If she respected you then she'd not be bothered about it. l0ve

She is bothered by it because she fears her child shall go to hell.

And I'm bothered by you attempting to shove your religion down someone's throat.

LOL, yeah true. But the same could be said for atheists trying to rip religion out of Christian throats. Not all but some.

they just step in when you guys do the "shoving down someones throat" part.

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#41 dabomb05
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No, the ACLU is not a defensive group of people. They are very aggresive. Evolution and atheism are promoted in school. Religion is rejected. The separation of church and state is there to protect churches, not the state.