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#1 yellowsaber
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latest republican http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=popt00us06 seriously, it's embarrasing
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#2 deactivated-5cacc9e03b460
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I like the guy.

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#3 11Marcel
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Republicans need to stop? Nice attitude there.

Actually, I find this to be one of the things republicans support that makes most sense. Honestly, if you're going to emigrate to a country, the least you can do is learn the language. If everything is offered in ten different languages, why bother learning english?

But, most probably troll anyways.

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#4 Pirate700
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I agree with everything in the video.

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#5 H_U_R_D
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politicians need to stop

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#6 topgunmv
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I don't see what's so crazy about what he's proposing. Unless you don't need to be a citizen to get a drivers license, you should know english well enough to not need a different test.

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#7 yellowsaber
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I agree with everything in the video.

Pirate700
the guy in the video says "maybe it's the buisness man in me", when america's buisness is mostly foreign! does this candidate know where most of America's money comes from? it's not america
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#8 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I agree with everything in the video.

yellowsaber

the guy in the video says "maybe it's the buisness man in me", when america's buisness is mostly foreign! does this candidate know where most of America's money comes from? it's not america

Wow.....

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#9 majoras_wrath
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I don't see what's so crazy about what he's proposing. Unless you don't need to be a citizen to get a drivers license, you should know english well enough to not need a different test.

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America doesn't have a national language, thank god.
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#10 yellowsaber
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[QUOTE="yellowsaber"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I agree with everything in the video.

Pirate700

the guy in the video says "maybe it's the buisness man in me", when america's buisness is mostly foreign! does this candidate know where most of America's money comes from? it's not america

Wow.....

what
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#11 yabbicoke
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Okay, that is BY FAR one of the least radical things you could criticize the right for. That video however, was creepy (not what the guy was saying, just the way he was acting).

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#12 btaylor2404
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There are fringes on the sides of both parties that make most of us cringe.
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#13 fidosim
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People should absolutely learn English. We are one nation. When people can't speak each other's languages, it undermines our sense of community. That's my take.
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#14 MyNameisaMeme
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How much money could that possibly save? They already have the tests translated. Just don't print the tests until someone needs it :|

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#15 Pirate700
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There are fringes on the sides of both parties that make most of us cringe.btaylor2404
That wasn't fringe though.

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#16 -Sun_Tzu-
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That's a weird video, and while I question the intentions of some who want to make English the de jure national language of the U.S., I see nothing wrong with having an official language. It'd be ideal if everyone spoke the same language.
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#17 yellowsaber
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considering america was founded by killing native indians who didn't speak english, there should be no law stating that english should be the only language. also, the fact that the guy says "it's the buisness man in me", means he doesn't know anything about buisness. most profits are made from foreign enterprises.
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#18 LJS9502_basic
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I take it this is about learning English? Actually my thoughts are that if one wants to move to a country they should voluntarily learn the language. That said.....road signs are in English and no one should have a driver's license if they can't read the language. And since children need educated.....English is necessary there as well. I can't see the fuss. Were I to move to Germany....I'd expect I'd need to learn German and not expect the Germans to learn my language....Same with any other country I'd move to which did not speak my language.
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#19 Pirate700
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considering america was founded by killing native indians who didn't speak english, there should be no law stating that english should be the only language. also, the fact that the guy says "it's the buisness man in me", means he doesn't know anything about buisness. most profits are made from foreign enterprises.yellowsaber
You can't be for real on this. How do you think every nation was originally formed? :lol:

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#20 Pixel-Pirate
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Though I do believe you should learn english if you plan to live in America, this guy says it in the most trolling way possible. If you made an Ad like that in California you'd be committing political suicide.

Theres a thing called tact. He does not have it.

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#21 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I don't see what's so crazy about what he's proposing. Unless you don't need to be a citizen to get a drivers license, you should know english well enough to not need a different test.

majoras_wrath

America doesn't have a national language, thank god.

To pass the citizenship test you generally need a working knowledge of english.

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#22 yellowsaber
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[QUOTE="yellowsaber"]considering america was founded by killing native indians who didn't speak english, there should be no law stating that english should be the only language. also, the fact that the guy says "it's the buisness man in me", means he doesn't know anything about buisness. most profits are made from foreign enterprises.Pirate700

You can't be for real on this. How do you think every nation was originally formed? :lol:

modern america was founded by killing native indians. then slaves built it, and now rich people take credit for it. that's not how japan was formed btw
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#23 Snipes_2
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Lol, Why? Becuase they put through a law that you don't agree with?

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#24 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="yellowsaber"]latest republican http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=popt00us06 seriously, it's embarrasing

oh I have seen that. he's an asshat imo.
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#25 789shadow
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I don't see any reason why speaking English shouldn't be required for becoming a naturalized citizen.

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#26 yellowsaber
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Lol, Why? Becuase they put through a law that you don't agree with?

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what buisness man would agree with it? don't you understand that America relies on foreign buisnessnes to survive?
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#27 Vandalvideo
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Republicans should stop fighting for their values?
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#28 Decessus
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I've been an advocate for adopting English as the official language of America for years. How can a country expect to survive intact if its citizens can't even communicate with one another?

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#29 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I don't see what's so crazy about what he's proposing. Unless you don't need to be a citizen to get a drivers license, you should know english well enough to not need a different test.

topgunmv

America doesn't have a national language, thank god.

To pass the citizenship test you generally need a working knowledge of english.

That's De Facto not De Jure. You could argue that it basically amounts to the same thing, which I agree with and aren't personally upset by. However, I believe or nation was founded on a strong sense of independence. Just as we don't mandate religion, we shouldn't mandate language.
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#30 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Lol, Why? Becuase they put through a law that you don't agree with?

yellowsaber

what buisness man would agree with it? don't you understand that America relies on foreign buisnessnes to survive?

All of them. :|

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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I don't see any reason why speaking English should be required for becoming a naturalized citizen.

789shadow
Because it's the majority of the land....how does one live if they don't understand the common language.:|
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I take it this is about learning English? Actually my thoughts are that if one wants to move to a country they should voluntarily learn the language. That said.....road signs are in English and no one should have a driver's license if they can't read the language. And since children need educated.....English is necessary there as well. I can't see the fuss. Were I to move to Germany....I'd expect I'd need to learn German and not expect the Germans to learn my language....Same with any other country I'd move to which did not speak my language.LJS9502_basic
This^ And for someone moving to a country and not trying to learn its language is just laziness.

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#33 hiphopballer
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I agree with everything in the video.

Pirate700
same here. cheers.
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#34 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I don't see any reason why speaking English should be required for becoming a naturalized citizen.

LJS9502_basic

Because it's the majority of the land....how does one live if they don't understand the common language.:|

Oh, damn, I forgot to type shouldn't. :P

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#35 yellowsaber
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Republicans should stop fighting for their values? Vandalvideo
their values = free market there is no law stating that every market has to speak english. that's not a republican value, maybe a neo-con one though
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#36 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I take it this is about learning English? Actually my thoughts are that if one wants to move to a country they should voluntarily learn the language. That said.....road signs are in English and no one should have a driver's license if they can't read the language. And since children need educated.....English is necessary there as well. I can't see the fuss. Were I to move to Germany....I'd expect I'd need to learn German and not expect the Germans to learn my language....Same with any other country I'd move to which did not speak my language.racer8dan

This^ And for someone moving to a country and not trying to learn its language is just laziness.

I agree, but at the same time that guy is full of douchebaggery
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#37 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Lol, Why? Becuase they put through a law that you don't agree with?

yellowsaber
what buisness man would agree with it? don't you understand that America relies on foreign buisnessnes to survive?

I think a lot of business men would agree that speaking English is a good thing for communication in the workplace.
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#38 fidosim
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modern america was founded by killing native indians. then slaves built it, and now rich people take credit for it. that's not how japan was formed btwyellowsaber
Great. But if you want to live there, you'll have to learn Japanese.
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#39 SgtKevali
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Republicans need to stop? Nice attitude there.

Actually, I find this to be one of the things republicans support that makes most sense. Honestly, if you're going to emigrate to a country, the least you can do is learn the language. If everything is offered in ten different languages, why bother learning english?

But, most probably troll anyways.

11Marcel

1. English is not the offical language of the United States.

2. It's immigrate, not emigrate. When you immigrate you enter, when you emigrate you leave.

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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] America doesn't have a national language, thank god.majoras_wrath

To pass the citizenship test you generally need a working knowledge of english.

That's De Facto not De Jure. You could argue that it basically amounts to the same thing, which I agree with and aren't personally upset by. However, I believe or nation was founded on a strong sense of independence. Just as we don't mandate religion, we shouldn't mandate language.

And if 20 languages become common use, how will we operate as a cohesive nation? You're speaking from an ideological perspective, I'm speaking from a practical one. We run into enough issues with misunderstandings arising from different dialects of english alone.

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[QUOTE="racer8dan"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I take it this is about learning English? Actually my thoughts are that if one wants to move to a country they should voluntarily learn the language. That said.....road signs are in English and no one should have a driver's license if they can't read the language. And since children need educated.....English is necessary there as well. I can't see the fuss. Were I to move to Germany....I'd expect I'd need to learn German and not expect the Germans to learn my language....Same with any other country I'd move to which did not speak my language.Serraph105

This^ And for someone moving to a country and not trying to learn its language is just laziness.

I agree, but at the same time that guy is full of douchebaggery

Are you speaking of me?:?
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#42 Decessus
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Though I do believe you should learn english if you plan to live in America, this guy says it in the most trolling way possible. If you made an Ad like that in California you'd be committing political suicide.

Theres a thing called tact. He does not have it.

Pixel-Pirate

I didn't find it untactful at all. He didn't insult anybody. He wasn't disparaging. He had a point to make, and he made it in a very direct way. What about the video did you find offensive?

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#43 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]This^ And for someone moving to a country and not trying to learn its language is just laziness.

LJS9502_basic

I agree, but at the same time that guy is full of douchebaggery

Are you speaking of me?:?

no the dude in the video

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#44 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]This^ And for someone moving to a country and not trying to learn its language is just laziness.

LJS9502_basic

I agree, but at the same time that guy is full of douchebaggery

Are you speaking of me?:?

Kick his butt LJ. :lol:

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

To pass the citizenship test you generally need a working knowledge of english.

topgunmv

That's De Facto not De Jure. You could argue that it basically amounts to the same thing, which I agree with and aren't personally upset by. However, I believe or nation was founded on a strong sense of independence. Just as we don't mandate religion, we shouldn't mandate language.

And if 20 languages become common use, how will we operate as a cohesive nation? You're speaking from an ideological perspective, I'm speaking from a practical one. We run into enough issues with misunderstandings arising from different dialects of english alone.

Given that English is currently the top form of communication among businessmen, and that most people in other countries learn English, I doubt that will happen.
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The guy should have gone one step further and demand that they speak American.

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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] That's De Facto not De Jure. You could argue that it basically amounts to the same thing, which I agree with and aren't personally upset by. However, I believe or nation was founded on a strong sense of independence. Just as we don't mandate religion, we shouldn't mandate language.majoras_wrath

And if 20 languages become common use, how will we operate as a cohesive nation? You're speaking from an ideological perspective, I'm speaking from a practical one. We run into enough issues with misunderstandings arising from different dialects of english alone.

Given that English is currently the top form of communication among businessmen, and that most people in other countries learn English, I doubt that will happen.

Even more reason for English to be the standard in America.

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I take it this is about learning English? Actually my thoughts are that if one wants to move to a country they should voluntarily learn the language. That said.....road signs are in English and no one should have a driver's license if they can't read the language. And since children need educated.....English is necessary there as well. I can't see the fuss. Were I to move to Germany....I'd expect I'd need to learn German and not expect the Germans to learn my language....Same with any other country I'd move to which did not speak my language.LJS9502_basic

Actually, most other countires have a dominant language and a second, extremely prominent language that people in that country would do well to learn. In the not to distant future we'll have about as many English speakers as Spanish speakers, if anything I think American citizens should start learning Spanish. Besides, most second generation and beyond citizens speak English, it's really only the ones who actually immigrate here that continue to speak their native tongue for the most part. And as to the driving thing, you don't need to read for the most part, 99.9% of the signs you can teach people to recognize by shape and/or location. Traffic signs are designed with the purpose of being simple to recognize and understand. At any rate, everyone needs to drive, most immigrants learn English whether it's mandated or not out of necessity, and having Spanish tests for either the extremely small proportion of immigrants who don't learn English or for those who just came to the country recently and are still in the process of learning the language shouldn't really be a problem.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I take it this is about learning English? Actually my thoughts are that if one wants to move to a country they should voluntarily learn the language. That said.....road signs are in English and no one should have a driver's license if they can't read the language. And since children need educated.....English is necessary there as well. I can't see the fuss. Were I to move to Germany....I'd expect I'd need to learn German and not expect the Germans to learn my language....Same with any other country I'd move to which did not speak my language.theone86

Actually, most other countires have a dominant language and a second, extremely prominent language that people in that country would do well to learn. In the not to distant future we'll have about as many English speakers as Spanish speakers, if anything I think American citizens should start learning Spanish. Besides, most second generation and beyond citizens speak English, it's really only the ones who actually immigrate here that continue to speak their native tongue for the most part. And as to the driving thing, you don't need to read for the most part, 99.9% of the signs you can teach people to recognize by shape and/or location. Traffic signs are designed with the purpose of being simple to recognize and understand. At any rate, everyone needs to drive, most immigrants learn English whether it's mandated or not out of necessity, and having Spanish tests for either the extremely small proportion of immigrants who don't learn English or for those who just came to the country recently and are still in the process of learning the language shouldn't really be a problem.

No...we should require immigrants to learn English.
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latest republican http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=popt00us06 seriously, it's embarrasingyellowsaber
Kudos to this politician.