Right place right time vs Born with it

Do you guys think some famous people were just at the right place at the right time? Obviously there is a hard work component to it. For example, I adore Eddie Van Halen, and I love Van Halen's music. However, I don't think he is this entity that was passed down from god, and then god decided that this person would revolutionize guitar playing. I think Eddie was just at the right place at the right time. There were probably hundreds of guys who were playing like him already, its just that Alex and Eddie got more exposure.

Another example would be Justin Bieber. While there is some merit to his instrumental abilities, he obviously isn't the most talented musician/entertainer. I don't like putting people up on a pedestal. While there is a level of respect for what these people acheived, I don't like putting these people above me, it just makes me feel worse. 

i wouldnt say they were "born with it/ right place right time" just they had the dedication to pursue their interests.

even artists like JB still deserve respect.

each artist has his/her niche.

Half the part of it is the right time and place, there's no denying that.  The other half is finding your interest and grinding out the '10,000 hour rule.'

Let's take Bill Gates.  Why was he so successful? Time and place: He was born in a technologically affluent area in a time when computers were taking off.  How did he do it? He programmed things for countless hours at the local computers, deep into the night, racking up thousands of hours of practice before even beginning his career

Do you guys think some famous people were just at the right place at the right time? Obviously there is a hard work component to it. For example, I adore Eddie Van Halen, and I love Van Halen's music. However, I don't think he this entity that was passed down from god, and then he decided that this person would revolutionize guitar playing. I think Eddie was just at the right place at the right time. There were probably hundreds of guys who were playing like him already, its just that Alex and Eddie got more exposure.

Another example would be Justin Bieber. While there is some merit to his instrumental abilities, he obviously isn't the most talented musician/entertainer. I don't like putting people up on a pedestal. While there is a level of respect for what these people acheived, I don't like putting these people above me, it just makes me feel worse. 

lonewolf604

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Do you guys think some famous people were just at the right place at the right time? Obviously there is a hard work component to it. For example, I adore Eddie Van Halen, and I love Van Halen's music. However, I don't think he this entity that was passed down from god, and then he decided that this person would revolutionize guitar playing. I think Eddie was just at the right place at the right time. There were probably hundreds of guys who were playing like him already, its just that Alex and Eddie got more exposure.

Another example would be Justin Bieber. While there is some merit to his instrumental abilities, he obviously isn't the most talented musician/entertainer. I don't like putting people up on a pedestal. While there is a level of respect for what these people acheived, I don't like putting these people above me, it just makes me feel worse. 

MrGeezer

The other half is finding your interest and grinding out the '10,000 hour rule.wis3boi

You should check out the book "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell.

You should check out the book "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell.

one_plum

You should check out the book "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell.

one_plum

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You should check out the book "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell.

lonewolf604

It's good, and was the basis for my original post up above in the thread.  Highly recommend it

i'd go with born with it since it would take a blue moon and major luck to be at the right place at the right time

i'd go with born with it since it would take a blue moon and major luck to be at the right place at the right time

CKYguy25

Luck and skill both always have a hand in this kind of thing.

Right time, right place can make a mediocre man a giant. Genes can create an effortless prodigy. With enough potential, one can grind it out, given the right place and time. It's really a multivariable thing.

i wouldnt say they were "born with it/ right place right time" just they had the dedication to pursue their interests.

 

konvikt_17

Yup, it's called 'taking charge'.

You can be the best whatever in the world, but if you don't purposefully put yourself out there and make an effort to be noticed, nothing is ever going to come of it.

Celebs spend a lot more of their time keeping their name out there than most people realize. It's a very competitive business.

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i wouldnt say they were "born with it/ right place right time" just they had the dedication to pursue their interests.

br0kenrabbit

Yup, it's called 'taking charge'.

You can be the best whatever in the world, but if you don't purposefully put yourself out there and make an effort to be noticed, nothing is ever going to come of it.

Celebs spend a lot more of their time keeping their name out there than most people realize. It's a very competitive business.

No matter how much you want something or how much you put yourself out there, you still need luck and timing.

Putting yourself out there doesn't mean anything, you still may not get what you want and you won't be the only one chasing it. You mention actors/celebs putting their names out and advertising for themselves which is obviously true, but that also means thousands of people do just as much work and don't catch the breaks.

By saying it is competitive, you are acknowledging the precense of luck and timing. An interviewer will tell you that some people get lucky, for various reason, and some don't. I also agree with you though, since you will accomplish nothing by waiting around and hoping for a moment to hit you.

No matter how much you want something or how much you put yourself out there, you still need luck and timing.

Putting yourself out there doesn't mean anything, you still may not get what you want and you won't be the only one chasing it. You mention actors/celebs putting their names out and advertising for themselves which is obviously true, but that also means thousands of people do just as much work and don't catch the breaks.

By saying it is competitive, you are acknowledging the precense of luck and timing. An interviewer will tell you that some people get lucky, for various reason, and some don't. I also agree with you though, since you will accomplish nothing by waiting around and hoping for a moment to hit you.

Blueresident87

I'm not saying circumstance has nothing to do with it, but I am saying circumstance alone will rarely win the day. Sure, it happens sometimes, but it's most definitely not the norm.

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i'd go with born with it since it would take a blue moon and major luck to be at the right place at the right time

PannicAtack

maybe that's true for some people