R.I.P. Youtube, Google is giving everyone data to their arch-nemesis Viacom

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#1 Etherninty
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It's all over the news.

12 TeraBytes of data with IP address supposly.

http://news.google.com/?ned=us&ncl=1225624464&hl=en&topic=t

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#2 Samwel_X
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Well that sucks. But in the end I'm not really bothered.
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#3 famicommander
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Link?
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#4 bman784
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All hail Viacom, our internet overlords! It baffles me how this big of a privacy breach can be legal.
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#5 dave123321
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Link?famicommander

Here is one

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#6 ColdRush88
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Erm...I just posted a thread about this...:|
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#7 GabuEx
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Link?famicommander

Unfortunately, it's true.

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#8 Etherninty
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I heard the judge was 81 years old, I wonder if he uses the Internet ? Not many people of his age do.
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#9 GabuEx
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In reading news articles on the matter, it looks like they're not interested in specific users or anything (i.e., they're not gonna sue some guy who was found to have watched a Daily Show clip), but rather they want to answer the question of whether Google is purposely avoiding removing copyrighted material because having it there generates advertising revenue.

Still, that's an awful lot of personal data to be handing over (and quite frankly I'm a little surprised that Google tracks every single video that every single IP address has watched, too).

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#10 thriteenthmonke
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Google is requesting that Viacom allow them to anatomize the data before handing it over, I don't think Viacom will go for that though.
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#11 Etherninty
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Google should give them all the logs printed on recycled toilet papers if really forced to.

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#12 famicommander
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In reading news articles on the matter, it looks like they're not interested in specific users or anything (i.e., they're not gonna sue some guy who was found to have watched a Daily Show clip), but rather they want to answer the question of whether Google is purposely avoiding removing copyrighted material because having it there generates advertising revenue.

Still, that's an awful lot of personal data to be handing over (and quite frankly I'm a little surprised that Google tracks every single video that every single IP address has watched, too).

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It isn't illegal to watch copyrighted material on a stream anyway, so they couldn't do anything even if they wanted to. It's not illegal for a multitude of reasons. First the user assumes that whatever content they watch on a legal website must also be legal. Second, you are not actually making a copy of it. The people providing the material are breaking the law, but the people watching it are not. Third, the user cannot be held responsible for knowing the copyright status for every single thing on the internet.
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#13 H8sMikeMoore
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i think a boycott would be appropriate
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#14 Tiefster
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Wow too many unknowing users are going to be effected by this it's going to be ridiculous. I bet most people didn't even know it was copyright infringement.
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#15 GabuEx
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It isn't illegal to watch copyrighted material on a stream anyway, so they couldn't do anything even if they wanted to. It's not illegal for a multitude of reasons. First the user assumes that whatever content they watch on a legal website must also be legal. Second, you are not actually making a copy of it. The people providing the material are breaking the law, but the people watching it are not. Third, the user cannot be held responsible for knowing the copyright status for every single thing on the internet.famicommander

Oh, is that right? I'm not up on my copyright law, so I don't really know much on this subject.

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#16 hoola
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This is stupid...they should just leave Google alone. I bet google and Youtube Have done more good for humanity than the companies that may have had copyrighted material on those Website.
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#17 II-FBIsniper-II
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This is stupid...they should just leave Google alone. I bet google and Youtube Have done more good for humanity than the companies that may have had copyrighted material on those Website.hoola
Leave google alone!
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#18 ColdRush88
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This is stupid...they should just leave Google alone. I bet google and Youtube Have done more good for humanity than the companies that may have had copyrighted material on those Website.hoola

Google: maybe.

Youtube: no.

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#19 joshrocks2245
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So if i have music videos on my youtube channel that i uploaded, can i be charged or taken to court?
Also, will we have to pay to watch certain videos if they are copyrighted or something?
This stuff is sort of confusing me :?
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#20 bigrhyno
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So if i have music videos on my youtube channel that i uploaded, can i be charged or taken to court?
Also, will we have to pay to watch certain videos if they are copyrighted or something?
This stuff is sort of confusing me :?joshrocks2245
It doesn't sound like you have any problems. It appears Viacom just wants the information anonymously to show how much of what is viewed is copyrighted material.
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#21 Serraph105
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even if this does happen i dont really think it will mean the end of youtube just the end of it being used for anything usefull
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#22 Thechaninator
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They shouldn't get anything for this BS. They knowingly sat there allowing youtube to have this content on there untill low and behold a company with deep pockets takes over and suddenly it is an issue.

I wouldn't give them anything for not acting sooner. It was well known this stuff was on youtube before it got taken over and they didn't have a problem with it then.

You can't just ignore a crime and THEN complain about it when you have a way to make money from it.....

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#23 rockon1215
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does viacom realize youtube isn't the only site with copyright infringing videos on it?
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#24 Diablo112688
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I dont like this at all...It scares me.
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#25 WiiRocks66
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Does this mean that YT is closing, and Viacom will have all of my personal info!?:cry::cry:
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#26 rimnet00
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Are you kidding me? Wow.
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#27 Apocalypse97
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I no longer trust google. :(
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#28 rimnet00
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I no longer trust google. :(Apocalypse97
??????????

How is it Google's fault?

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#29 tsduv21
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does viacom realize youtube isn't the only site with copyright infringing videos on it?rockon1215

Yeah, exactly. Why aren't they bothering any of the other video hosting sites? Anyway, I'm not happy about some giant getting my info.

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#30 ChicaQueenWarGa
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Viacom is taking over the gaming industry. They bought Xfire last year, but thankfully, they didn't change anything.
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#31 lucky326
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[QUOTE="rockon1215"]does viacom realize youtube isn't the only site with copyright infringing videos on it?tsduv21

Yeah, exactly. Why aren't they bothering any of the other video hosting sites? Anyway, I'm not happy about some giant getting my info.

Youtube is the biggest by far a victory over them should in there minds be a sign to the others.
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#32 GTR2addict
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viacom can go shove those 12 terabytes of info up their ***
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#33 xtn702
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Is this legal?
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#34 zombieman666
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I'm still confused can someone explain in little people words for me.
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#35 deactivated-5a79221380856
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I don't really see what's the matter. All Viacom is going to find is an incredible amount of GameSpot users who have been Rick Rolled. :P
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#37 C_BozkurT_C
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[QUOTE="famicommander"]Link?GabuEx

Unfortunately, it's true.

so does this mean youtube is being closed? I'm confused...
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#39 Redgarl
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Niah... I don't watch a lot of liscensed stuff on youtube anyway...
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#40 rockon1215
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have of that 12 TB probably is rick roll, Evolution of Dance, and Chris Crocker
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#41 suicidalpoptrt
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Why did the judge allow the disclosure of users IP address and account info?
How is that relevant to discovering the amount of times a video has been watched?

I think I'm going to close my account...

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[QUOTE="famicommander"]Link?GabuEx

Unfortunately, it's true.

Well, this sucks. And unfortunately, there's not much we can really do against it. Anybody have any ideas? Striking won't work, so that's eliminated.

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#43 suicidalpoptrt
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Link?Video_Game_King

Unfortunately, it's true.

Well, this sucks. And unfortunately, there's not much we can really do against it. Anybody have any ideas? Striking won't work, so that's eliminated.

Kill everyone working for Viacom
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#44 suicidalpoptrt
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Link?Video_Game_King

Unfortunately, it's true.

Well, this sucks. And unfortunately, there's not much we can really do against it. Anybody have any ideas? Striking won't work, so that's eliminated.

Kill everyone working for Viacom
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#45 Video_Game_King
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Link?suicidalpoptrt

Unfortunately, it's true.

Well, this sucks. And unfortunately, there's not much we can really do against it. Anybody have any ideas? Striking won't work, so that's eliminated.

Kill everyone working for Viacom

Violence never really helps you. If anything, it hurts you. History has proven this a crapload of times.

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#46 suicidalpoptrt
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[QUOTE="suicidalpoptrt"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Link?Video_Game_King

Unfortunately, it's true.

Well, this sucks. And unfortunately, there's not much we can really do against it. Anybody have any ideas? Striking won't work, so that's eliminated.

Kill everyone working for Viacom

Violence never really helps you. If anything, it hurts you. History has proven this a crapload of times.

Jokes aside, I think it would be a good idea to watch this matter closely and see if they if they break the law in any way(most likely for privacy issues)
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#47 Video_Game_King
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Jokes aside, I think it would be a good idea to watch this matter closely and see if they if they break the law in any way(most likely for privacy issues)suicidalpoptrt

Courts interpret the law, meaning they can essentially define what the hell is legal. Don't see how we can call them out for being illegal, anyway.

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#48 suicidalpoptrt
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[QUOTE="suicidalpoptrt"]Jokes aside, I think it would be a good idea to watch this matter closely and see if they if they break the law in any way(most likely for privacy issues)Video_Game_King

Courts interpret the law, meaning they can essentially define what the hell is legal. Don't see how we can call them out for being illegal, anyway.

Oh well then I'm out of ideas..
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#49 Bloodbath_87
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Yeah...I recently had to delete all 43 of my videos from Youtube. :?
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#50 Tjeremiah1988
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im about to close my account but then I think it wouldnt matter. Everything is probably saved as I type.