Rival Tripoli, Lebanon neighborhoods clash again - 7 dead

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"TRIPOLI, Lebanon June 2 (Reuters) - Clashes erupted between supporters and opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in neighbouring Lebanon's northern port city of Tripoli on Saturday, killing seven people and wounding 30, residents and a doctor said.

A Reuters journalist said the two sides fired machineguns and rocket-propelled grenades at each other and that the army moved into the area with armoured vehicles in an attempt to quell the violence but did not open fire.

Gunmen from the Jabal Mohsen district, home to the minority Alawite sect - the same offshoot of Shi'ite Islam to which Assad belongs - have fought on-off skirmishes over the past few weeks with the Sunni Muslim residents of the Bab al-Tabbaneh area."

I see contagion across the entire region surrounding Syria escalating rapidly. Lebanon is especially vulnerable, given its past relationship with Syria and its sharp sectarian divides.

hey a thread about my country woohoo... That happens every while though,may end tonight may not.FMAB_GTO

Isn't this the most serious sustained fighting since Syria's uprising began?

I don't think this event in itself is notable, but in context it seems ominous.

**** I have someone there...GazaAli

In Tripoli?

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]**** I have someone there...jetpower3

In Tripoli?

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]hey a thread about my country woohoo... That happens every while though,may end tonight may not.jetpower3

Isn't this the most serious sustained fighting since Syria's uprising began?

I don't think this event in itself is notable, but in context it seems ominous.

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]hey a thread about my country woohoo... That happens every while though,may end tonight may not.FMAB_GTO

Isn't this the most serious sustained fighting since Syria's uprising began?

I don't think this event in itself is notable, but in context it seems ominous.

What's the weapon proliferation like there? The fact that ordinary people seem to be actively using things like RPGs and automatic weapons on a whim's notice seems very unusual for a relatively well developed country (although I understand Tripoli is relatively poor).

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]

Isn't this the most serious sustained fighting since Syria's uprising began?

I don't think this event in itself is notable, but in context it seems ominous.

jetpower3

What's the weapon proliferation like there? The fact that ordinary people seem to be actively using things like RPGs and automatic weapons on a whim's notice seems very unusual for a relatively well developed country (although I understand Tripoli is relatively poor).

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]

Isn't this the most serious sustained fighting since Syria's uprising began?

I don't think this event in itself is notable, but in context it seems ominous.

jetpower3

What's the weapon proliferation like there? The fact that ordinary people seem to be actively using things like RPGs and automatic weapons on a whim's notice seems very unusual for a relatively well developed country (although I understand Tripoli is relatively poor).

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] I know what you mean,besides things are occurring so fast as well.FMAB_GTO

What's the weapon proliferation like there? The fact that ordinary people seem to be actively using things like RPGs and automatic weapons on a whim's notice seems very unusual for a relatively well developed country (although I understand Tripoli is relatively poor).

I see. So basically there are militias and paramilitary arms of parties (including Hezbollah) that have a lot of weapons and a parallel structure to the state and military structure itself (i.e. states within a state)? And basically, if you're strong and organized enough to the point where the government is afraid to take you on, you can just do whatever you want (within "reason")?

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] I know what you mean,besides things are occurring so fast as well.pie-junior

What's the weapon proliferation like there? The fact that ordinary people seem to be actively using things like RPGs and automatic weapons on a whim's notice seems very unusual for a relatively well developed country (although I understand Tripoli is relatively poor).

the ordinary person have at MOST an AK47FMAB_GTO

lol

Do you have one?

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]

What's the weapon proliferation like there? The fact that ordinary people seem to be actively using things like RPGs and automatic weapons on a whim's notice seems very unusual for a relatively well developed country (although I understand Tripoli is relatively poor).

jetpower3

I see. So basically there are militias and paramilitary arms of parties (including Hezbollah) that have a lot of weapons and a parallel structure to the state and military structure itself (i.e. states within a state)?

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]the ordinary person have at MOST an AK47pie-junior

lol

Do you have one?

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Well these "ordinary" people are not ordinary,they belong to parties and sects,the ordinary person have at MOST an AK47,no snipers or RPGs,the ones that are fighting are just people belonging to sects that own a lot of guns,and btw most sects and parties in lebanon own weapons hence why the "government" does nothing about it,since it is the "government" itslef that is at fault.FMAB_GTO

I see. So basically there are militias and paramilitary arms of parties (including Hezbollah) that have a lot of weapons and a parallel structure to the state and military structure itself (i.e. states within a state)?

We've all seen how bad war in Lebanon can be. It is for the best I suppose, but I'm not sure how long such fragile harmony could last. I made a point in another thread in how Syria could end up being "Lebanonized" in itself. Now, add the existing fractiousLebanoninto the picture...

/p>

We've all seen how bad war in Lebanon can be. It is for the best I suppose, but I'm not sure how long such fragile harmony could last.

jetpower3

but as for military curtailing lolno,actually they've been targeted by that military power few times X_X FMAB_GTO

Well, that's what those fashionable bullpup rifles and, inexplicably white, leclercs are for.

- When I was in the area in 09, I heard that one of the spanish regiments was being really proactive in it's anti-militia duties, until they were targeted several times with combined rifle-fire/IED ambushes. then they stopped doing anything.

That's what I mean by "terrified". But it's all anecdotal evidence at best.

Syria has always had a foot in Lebanon, this is to be expected. There's no way a civil war in Syria wont spill into Lebanon to some extent. Then again, what do the fighters in Tripoli hope to accomplish? What is klling some Sunnis or Alawites going to accomplish?

Also, the Lebanese army is pretty pathetic. I know their job is to hold Lebanon together, but they really fail at that. i cant see why they even allowed Hezbollah to proliferate arms. I know they dont want a civil war, but you hjave to have control over your country.

Just goes to show how much Iran and Syria have fvcked Lebanon to hell.

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]but as for military curtailing lolno,actually they've been targeted by that military power few times X_X pie-junior

Well, that's what those fashionable bullpup rifles and, inexplicably white, leclercs are for.

- When I was in the area in 09, I heard that one of the spanish regiments was being really proactive in it's anti-militia duties, until they were targeted several times with combined rifle-fire/IED ambushes. then they stopped doing anything.

That's what I mean by "terrified". But it's all anecdotal evidence at best.

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]but as for military curtailing lolno,actually they've been targeted by that military power few times X_X FMAB_GTO

Well, that's what those fashionable bullpup rifles and, inexplicably white, leclercs are for.

- When I was in the area in 09, I heard that one of the spanish regiments was being really proactive in it's anti-militia duties, until they were targeted several times with combined rifle-fire/IED ambushes. then they stopped doing anything.

That's what I mean by "terrified". But it's all anecdotal evidence at best.

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="pie-junior"]

Well, that's what those fashionable bullpup rifles and, inexplicably white, leclercs are for.

- When I was in the area in 09, I heard that one of the spanish regiments was being really proactive in it's anti-militia duties, until they were targeted several times with combined rifle-fire/IED ambushes. then they stopped doing anything.

That's what I mean by "terrified". But it's all anecdotal evidence at best.

pie-junior

WHEN IS AMERICA GOING TO STEP IN ALREADY?????????