Russian General Threatens Poland

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404221,00.html

Russia isn't happy about this deal. It was just on the news that a Russian general is threatening to attack Poland.

The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

I thought Russia wanted to keep the border conflict in progress?

The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Kuhu

I thought Russia wanted to keep the border conflict in progress?

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.freshgman

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

[QUOTE="Kuhu"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

I thought Russia wanted to keep the border conflict in progress?

By keeping the border in conflict, Georgia cannot join NATO. Not until the border issue is resolved.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.freshgman

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

SO was given away by the stalin, now that stalin is gone, the people of SO can make the choice.

[QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

It doesn't work that way. SO don't want to become Russian, SO wants to become independent.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vfanek

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

It doesn't work that way. SO don't want to become Russian, SO wants to become independent.

I heard they dont care if they become part of Russia or become independent as long as they are not Georgian.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.MeriMorganov

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

It doesn't work that way. SO don't want to become Russian, SO wants to become independent.

I heard they dont care if they become part or Russia or become independent as long as they are not Georgian.

Either way, why would Georgia just let part of their nation become independent?

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vfanek

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

It doesn't work that way. SO don't want to become Russian, SO wants to become independent.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

It doesn't work that way. SO don't want to become Russian, SO wants to become independent.

Then they've occupied it. If they do, the West isn't going to be happy.

The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

protecting an allied nation is a disaster? With that said, what makes Russia correct in this issue? Is it simply because its the US "meddling" in another country that accepted our assistance?

Listen, I understand why the US is not loved when it comes to our policies internationally, but the cause of every problem isnt the US. The Russians are sabre-rattling, and the person doing the rattling is a general (i.e. he does not make policy) and should be ignored, plain and simple.

Quite frankly, I am tired of this blatant anti-US crap. If you have a legitimate complaint about the US (Iraq War, treatment of Japanese during WWII, Vietnam War, Patriot Act) then by all means make a complaint. Just dont let your default answer to every international problem be "USA caused it".

Mr. President: Lets Launch the Nukes!
Main General dude: it doesn't work that way sir
Preisente: BUT I WANNA LAUNCH THE NUKES
Gen. Dude: Sir it doesn't work that way
Presidente: But I WANNA.. Laura, they won't let me launch the nukes.
Laura: Dear I think you should listen to them
Pres: ahhhhhh :(

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.mrbojangles25

protecting an allied nation is a disaster? With that said, what makes Russia correct in this issue? Is it simply because its the US "meddling" in another country that accepted our assistance?

Listen, I understand why the US is not loved when it comes to our policies internationally, but the cause of every problem isnt the US. The Russians are sabre-rattling, and the person doing the rattling is a general (i.e. he does not make policy) and should be ignored, plain and simple.

Quite frankly, I am tired of this blatant anti-US crap. If you have a legitimate complaint about the US (Iraq War, treatment of Japanese during WWII, Vietnam War, Patriot Act) then by all means make a complaint. Just don't let your default answer to every international problem be "USA caused it".

The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

protecting an allied nation is a disaster? With that said, what makes Russia correct in this issue? Is it simply because its the US "meddling" in another country that accepted our assistance?

Listen, I understand why the US is not loved when it comes to our policies internationally, but the cause of every problem isnt the US. The Russians are sabre-rattling, and the person doing the rattling is a general (i.e. he does not make policy) and should be ignored, plain and simple.

Quite frankly, I am tired of this blatant anti-US crap. If you have a legitimate complaint about the US (Iraq War, treatment of Japanese during WWII, Vietnam War, Patriot Act) then by all means make a complaint. Just don't let your default answer to every international problem be "USA caused it".

And why should Georgia not join NATO? Because Russia said so?
Someone needs to tell Russia that the Soviet Union fell in 1991.

Mr. President: Lets Launch the Nukes!
Main General dude: it doesn't work that way sir
Preisente: BUT I WANNA LAUNCH THE NUKES
Gen. Dude: Sir it doesn't work that way
Presidente: But I WANNA.. Laura, they won't let me launch the nukes.
Laura: Dear I think you should listen to them
Pres: ahhhhhh :(

ferrari2001

Mr. President: Lets Launch the Nukes!
Main General dude: it doesn't work that way sir
Preisente: BUT I WANNA LAUNCH THE NUKES
Gen. Dude: Sir it doesn't work that way
Presidente: But I WANNA.. Laura, they won't let me launch the nukes.
Laura: Dear I think you should listen to them
Pres: ahhhhhh :(

ferrari2001

Now then, Dmitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the Bomb... The *Bomb*, Dmitri... The *hydrogen* bomb!... Well now, what happened is... ahm... one of our base commanders, he had a sort of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny. And, ah... he went and did a silly thing... Well, I'll tell you what he did. He ordered his planes... to attack your country... Ah... Well, let me finish, Dmitri... Let me finish, Dmitri... Well listen, how do you think I feel about it?... Can you *imagine* how I feel about it, Dmitri?... Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello?... *Of course* I like to speak to you!... *Of course* I like to say hello!... Not now, but anytime, Dmitri. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a *friendly* call. Of course it's a friendly call...

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.ishoturface

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2559818/Poland-and-US-agree-deal-for-missle-defence-shield.html

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Mr. President: Lets Launch the Nukes!
Main General dude: it doesn't work that way sir
Preisente: BUT I WANNA LAUNCH THE NUKES
Gen. Dude: Sir it doesn't work that way
Presidente: But I WANNA.. Laura, they won't let me launch the nukes.
Laura: Dear I think you should listen to them
Pres: ahhhhhh :(

p2rus

Now then, Dmitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the Bomb... The *Bomb*, Dmitri... The *hydrogen* bomb!... Well now, what happened is... ahm... one of our base commanders, he had a sort of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny. And, ah... he went and did a silly thing... Well, I'll tell you what he did. He ordered his planes... to attack your country... Ah... Well, let me finish, Dmitri... Let me finish, Dmitri... Well listen, how do you think I feel about it?... Can you *imagine* how I feel about it, Dmitri?... Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello?... *Of course* I like to speak to you!... *Of course* I like to say hello!... Not now, but anytime, Dmitri. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a *friendly* call. Of course it's a friendly call...

lol

Great, the whole deal with Russia isn't even over yet. Hooray for more bloodshed...Zaeryn

Yeah, its one hell of a time. I don't think it will progress too far though.

This shield is directly directed against Russia. If it is for Iran than it should be better that it is in Turkey. I it is for N. Korea then Japan is better. Both Japan and Turkey is US allays. This is more logical to me

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

protecting an allied nation is a disaster? With that said, what makes Russia correct in this issue? Is it simply because its the US "meddling" in another country that accepted our assistance?

Listen, I understand why the US is not loved when it comes to our policies internationally, but the cause of every problem isnt the US. The Russians are sabre-rattling, and the person doing the rattling is a general (i.e. he does not make policy) and should be ignored, plain and simple.

Quite frankly, I am tired of this blatant anti-US crap. If you have a legitimate complaint about the US (Iraq War, treatment of Japanese during WWII, Vietnam War, Patriot Act) then by all means make a complaint. Just don't let your default answer to every international problem be "USA caused it".

So? Why should Georgia not join Nato?

Frankly, this move is a step back on Russia's part.

As for the missiles, well, the missiles are in Poland because Poland wants them there. Not because the US wants them there. If Poland said "no", there would be no missiles.

But I agree, it was stupid of Bush to say something. We need to observe from the sideliens on this one and, if necessary, strip down and streak through the field if a major conflict looks like its coming.

This shield is directly directed against Russia. If it is for Iran than it should be better that it is in Turkey. I it is for N. Korea then Japan is better. Both Japan and Turkey is US allays. This is more logical to me

mamkem6

Exactly, and Russia is well aware of this too. Thats why they are so pissed off about it.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Great, the whole deal with Russia isn't even over yet. Hooray for more bloodshed...Kuhu

Yeah, its one hell of a time. I don't think it will progress too far though.

Hopefully not.

[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2559818/Poland-and-US-agree-deal-for-missle-defence-shield.html

"up to something"

the only thing the US is "up to" is protecting its nation's owns interests, which is the obligation of any government to its people.

But the way you phrased it makes it sound like some conspiracy. Thats cool, Ive always had a hunch that the US and Poland are making an army of gerbil-ninjas to infiltrate Soviet, errrr, Russian air ducts and kill their leaders.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.mrbojangles25

protecting an allied nation is a disaster? With that said, what makes Russia correct in this issue? Is it simply because its the US "meddling" in another country that accepted our assistance?

Listen, I understand why the US is not loved when it comes to our policies internationally, but the cause of every problem isnt the US. The Russians are sabre-rattling, and the person doing the rattling is a general (i.e. he does not make policy) and should be ignored, plain and simple.

Quite frankly, I am tired of this blatant anti-US crap. If you have a legitimate complaint about the US (Iraq War, treatment of Japanese during WWII, Vietnam War, Patriot Act) then by all means make a complaint. Just don't let your default answer to every international problem be "USA caused it".

So? Why should Georgia not join Nato?

Frankly, this move is a step back on Russia's part.

As for the missiles, well, the missiles are in Poland because Poland wants them there. Not because the US wants them there. If Poland said "no", there would be no missiles.

But I agree, it was stupid of Bush to say something. We need to observe from the sideliens on this one and, if necessary, strip down and streak through the field if a major conflict looks like its coming.

[QUOTE="mamkem6"]

This shield is directly directed against Russia. If it is for Iran than it should be better that it is in Turkey. I it is for N. Korea then Japan is better. Both Japan and Turkey is US allays. This is more logical to me

Kuhu

Exactly, and Russia is well aware of this too. Thats why they are so pissed off about it.

so youre saying Russia is not a threat any more? I know they arent now (I dont consciously fear russia a nd think of them as the old Soviet Union), but that can change in a matter of hours.

guys, terrorists dont have a lot of missiles. Russia does.

you dont need a missile screen to stop a snuke.

If the Polish want a missile defense shield, they need to make it themselves. The United States shouldn't be saying "Hey, we can put a missile defense shield in for you.".ElectronicMagic

Exactly.

[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2559818/Poland-and-US-agree-deal-for-missle-defence-shield.html

and besides russia is the last country the U.S. would attack except maybe Nk, china, iran but other than that the u.s. has no reason to attack russia

[QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

The people in Florida are mainly Cuban, so let's give that to Cuba.:|

Soon we will again see Russian base in Cuba.

Putin said Russia will strenghten ties with them

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Theokhoth

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

The people in Florida are mainly Cuban, so let's give that to Cuba.:|

so what does that tell u?

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Theokhoth

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

The people in Florida are mainly Cuban, so let's give that to Cuba.:|

the cubans had missles pointed t the U.S. and those missles were russian :o

so what does that tell u?

ishoturface

That the Floridians belong to Russia?:?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Vilot_Hero

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

The people in Florida are mainly Cuban, so let's give that to Cuba.:|

A good chunk of them are. Mainly because of immigrants (both legal and illegal).

The point is just because a bunch of people in SO were Russian does not give Russia the right to take SO from Georgia.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="freshgman"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The USA is creating one disaster after another. I don't see why Georgia doesn't let Russia have SO.Theokhoth

why? would you let canada have an american state? or vice versa. SO is part of georgia. You cant just let anyone take it through force, then you cant call yourself a soverign nation

The people in Florida are mainly Cuban, so let's give that to Cuba.:|

A good chunk of them are. Mainly because of immigrants (both legal and illegal).

The point is just because a bunch of people in SO were Russian does not give Russia the right to take SO from Georgia.

I think the Russians disagree, and they are the one's that are going to get the final say.

I think the Russians disagree, and they are the one's that are going to get the final say.

ElectronicMagic

Good for the Russians.:| But there are rules that extend beyond Russia, and they violated them. Whether they have the final say or not, Russia is in the wrong.

A good chunk of them are. Mainly because of immigrants (both legal and illegal).

The point is just because a bunch of people in SO were Russian does not give Russia the right to take SO from Georgia.

Great more news that Russia is going to try to attack another country, I hope that we can find a way to make Russia back down.RenegadePatriot

My mom is from Poland! :o

[QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]

I think the Russians disagree, and they are the one's that are going to get the final say.

Theokhoth

Good for the Russians.:| But there are rules that extend beyond Russia, and they violated them. Whether they have the final say or not, Russia is in the wrong.

What did Russia do that the United States hasn't done in the last five years? We invaded two countries and are occupying both of them. Russia on the other hand has only invaded one country and has only occupied one third of it. A country that has a close history with Russia and where in South Ossetia there are 90% Russians. South Ossetia has been independent since 1992, they have been running things themselves since then. Then all of a sudden Georgia comes along and wants that area back and invades it. Russia retaliates and here we are. Sorry for repeating the events that have led to this point, but I just felt it necessary to drawn the big distinctions between this and what the U.S. has done. Like how the Iraqis didn't want us to invade them, but South Ossetia wanted the help from Russia.

SS-27 Topol M and SS-24 are capable of penetrating any missile shield.

I'm no expert, I only read that