Saturn's moon, Enceladus may contain life

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#1 Jd1680a
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Astrophysics, astonomers and other scientists are researching other stars to find planets with possible life. The goal is if there are other plantary systems like ours, with a Earth planet with liquid water then life would be there. Apparently, there is an estimate 50 stars with possible earth like planets, while there is no way to prove each one really do have life, ocean of hydrogen peroxide, or a baron wasteland.

Enceladus is Saturn's sixth largest moon at a distance of 800 million miles from the Sun, 147,000 miles from Saturn and only have the diameter of 312 miles. This small moon have shown to have activity at its southern hempishere with water vapor erupting from its cracks. There is strong evidence a heat source have caused an ocean of liquid water beneath the ice, which may contain life. One of the requirements for life to exist is a source of stable energy, the sun is one source for many life on Earth while other life is using heat energy from the core. While there is no proof, Enceladus may contain life within its ocean surviving on the energy being produced.

What if life doesnt exist at all on Enceladus? I think its important not to ignore Enceladus but use it as an example. Massive planets orbiting stars may have moons simliar to Enceladus and they might contain advanced life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enceladus_%28moon%29

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#2 Alacoque72
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Are they ever going to go to a moon they think might have life on it?

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#3 branketra
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That would be awesome. That isn't a true color image, is it?
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#4 Iownyou2121
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Are they ever going to go to a moon they think might have life on it?

Alacoque72

They've been testing self controling robotic deep sea divers (Like This) for moons like this and Europa (Jupiter). Now there's the problem of the getting through all the ice.

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#5 KiIIyou
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Look like a pleasant place to live.
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#6 HexedPelican
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That would be awesome if there was life on it, I always would love to explore the universe.
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[QUOTE="Alacoque72"]

Are they ever going to go to a moon they think might have life on it?

Iownyou2121

They've been testing self controling robotic deep sea divers (Like This) for moons like this and Europa (Jupiter). Now there's the problem of the getting through all the ice.

Thanks for that link to the Europa submarine article---fascinating stuff! :)

Of course, one obvious concern is to ensure that any probe sent to any celestial body that could support life is 100% aseptic.

Otherwise life on that celestial body may end up looking a whole lot like bacterial life on Earth. :P

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#8 Jd1680a
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>Otherwise life on that celestial body may end up looking a whole lot like bacterial life on Earth. :P

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If the environment is stable for the past 2 billion years or so, the life might have advanced to something like sponges and worms. More advanced life like a place where its constant, a 50 degree temperature change at random doesnt help.

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#9 xXTalismanXx
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If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

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#10 ImaPirate0202
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If there is it's most likely just micro-organisms.

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#11 Baranga
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That would be awesome. That isn't a true color image, is it?BranKetra

It's slightly modified to point out the different composition of the ice. Enceladus is actually snow white.

This moon was used as reference when creating Jotunheim for the Thor movie.

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#12 HT89488
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I thought the moons around Saturn are surround by vast broken moons, rocks etc..They say that is what formed those rings are previous moons that have crashed into each other and continue to "clash" into each other making that fine appearance of a ring. Orbital moons that have came into close to Saturn were ripped apart from Saturn's gravitational pull and crushed them.. So what I am saying is, wouldn't it be a dangerous place to live as far as debri hitting the moon surface? How would life be exist in such a violent surrounding?
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Isn't this the moon that is -190degrees on the surface? It also has more water than the whole of Earth's oceans I think. But hey, if bacteria can survive in space then it can survive anywhere else.

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If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

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I'm more interested in quarian or asari myself :P

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#16 stanleycup98
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If there is it's most likely just micro-organisms.

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Chances are, any type of life in the universe will be microorganisms.
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#17 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]That would be awesome. That isn't a true color image, is it?Baranga

It's slightly modified to point out the different composition of the ice. Enceladus is actually snow white.

This moon was used as reference when creating Jotunheim for the Thor movie.

I see. Those are the paths the water might take/have taken.
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#18 mrbojangles25
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Enchiladas?

seriously, I cant be the only one that thought of mexican food before moons

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#19 bf210
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If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

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Yeah I'm not getting excited until they find a Prothean cache on Mars :P

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[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

bf210

Yeah I'm not getting excited until they find a Prothean cache on Mars :P

We can only hope:P

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I think I saw this on the 7 Wonders of the Solar System episode on The Universe, which you can see on streaming Netflix if you have it, should be on the latest season they have.
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If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

xXTalismanXx
Huh. My preference would have run more in the direction of Asari but to each their own I guess.
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[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

nocoolnamejim

Huh. My preference would have run more in the direction of Asari but to each their own I guess.

I want to build my perfect Wrex/Garrus team, with a hanar medic on the side.

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[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

KamuiFei

I'm more interested in quarian or asari myself :P

I think we now know who you romanced in both games.......... Okay Okay I picked them both too. :oops:

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I was pulling for Titan!

Thanos

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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

If there is it's most likely just micro-organisms.

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Chances are, any type of life in the universe will be microorganisms.

How do you figure? The one planet that we KNOW has life is full of advanced life.. not just microorganisms.

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#27 Inconsistancy
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Isn't this the moon that is -190degrees on the surface? It also has more water than the whole of Earth's oceans I think. But hey, if bacteria can survive in space then it can survive anywhere else.

CBR600-RR
That's Titan, the water thing... but their life could be based on elements that function at lower temperatures.

Enceladus has the best name of any planet or moon :( such a waste, especially with our boring 'Earth', we're so lame at naming.
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#28 HT89488
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I guess the ill educated people never understood what I said. lol. How moons developed around Saturn or other various planets. This of course a theoretical theory.
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#29 xxKai
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I'd be surprised if it looked similar to Earth

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#30 Kcube
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I wonder what life somewhere else might look like.

Since its only 300 so miles big I bet they are 5 inch mega people.

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#31 KamuiFei
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[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

If those supposed life-forms aren't turians, Hanar, or Krogans, I'm not interested.

DJ419

I'm more interested in quarian or asari myself :P

I think we now know who you romanced in both games.......... Okay Okay I picked them both too. :oops:

Hehe, guilty :lol:

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#32 Iownyou2121
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[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"] Chances are, any type of life in the universe will be microorganisms. hartsickdiscipl

How do you figure? The one planet that we KNOW has life is full of advanced life.. not just microorganisms.

Well a few reasons, "The number of prokaryotes on Earth is estimated to be around five million trillion trillion, or 5 × 1030, accounting for at least half the global biomass"From Wiki.

Thats just their biomass, chances are if you pick a random organism on Earth it is almost always a prokaryote. Archea are the only known domain that are able to survive in extremely salty, high temperature, and other extremely hostile enviroments. All eukaryotic organisms rely on cellular respiration to survive, they need O2, prokaryotes do not. Many micro organisms can form things like cysts to wheather very extreme conditions letting them remain dormant for thousands of years. Early life on Earth started microscopic, remaining that way for a billion years, meaning that if over half our history was only microbes then if we walk into another planet in their history they will likely have only microbes as well.

Of course you just said advanced life, which most prokaryotes fit into. They are the best adapted organisms on Earth with billions of years worth of time to perfect themselves, giving them the best chance at surviving any possible disaster we could face.

I would love multicellular organisms so much more though, and who knows really, we only base things off of Earth and we could be very different from how other life could form.

I guess the ill educated people never understood what I said. lol. How moons developed around Saturn or other various planets. This of course a theoretical theory. HT89488

It is probably much more stable now than it was in the days the rings were made, with no really large objects to cause serious turmoil through the miles of ice it has. The moons it still has after all these years are very strong from the early history and have remained in their orbits for as long as we have seen. Even the rings follow a very steady orbit despite being made of so much debris.

Of course we are going for any possibility of life, maybe even grasping for straws a little, in our solar system because traveling to others will be impracticle until ... well a long time.

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#33 OrlandoEngelaar
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I would love multicellular organisms so much more though, and who knows really, we only base things off of Earth and we could be very different from how other life could form.

Iownyou2121

This.

In the scope of the universe we are irrelevant, i don't expect other worlds/dimensions to follow our rules. The "expert" scientists can't make assumptions just because of observations from thousands of light years away.

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#34 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="Iownyou2121"]

I would love multicellular organisms so much more though, and who knows really, we only base things off of Earth and we could be very different from how other life could form.

OrlandoEngelaar

This.

In the scope of the universe we are irrelevant, i don't expect other worlds/dimensions to follow our rules. The "expert" scientists can't make assumptions just because of observations from thousands of light years away.

Exactly. All we have to go on at this point is a VERY small amount of scientific data in relation to even just our own galaxy, let alone the universe. It's silly and arrogant to think that observations made from our little "3rd rock from the sun" really apply as universal laws from which we can extrapolate the likelihood of what types of life we might find.