SAVE the Internet - STOP VIRGIN

If you haven't heard already, Virgin in the UK has put forth a bill that would let them limit their costomers' internet access to only the site which they [Vergin] have partnered with.

If you want to know more, check out my sig.

SAVE THE INTERNET. PASS IT ON.

Bandwidth is a finite commodity. I have no qualms about their proposal.

1. its virgin not vergin.

2. aparently its not just virgin doing it, its all ISP's: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

Bandwidth is a finite commodity. I have no qualms about their proposal.

Oleg_Huzwog

I didn't check the link, but if they are limiting to sites they are partnered with, its not a "bandwidth issue." Its a money issue. Bandwidth issues are solved by limiting file sharing, or limiting output bandwidth to high bandwidth users during peak times....not by signing contracts to limit where you can go.

1. its virgin not vergin.

2. aparently its not just virgin doing it: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

mattyftm

I think he spelled it Vergin because he thought GS would censor him. At least I hope so, because it is in his sig

[QUOTE="mattyftm"]

1. its virgin not vergin.

2. aparently its not just virgin doing it: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

seabiscuit8686

I think he spelled it Vergin because he thought GS would censor him. At least I hope so, because it is in his sig

lol thats probably the case but luckly im an american and we have the ACLU to stop people from doing that

I hope this doesn't happen. if they seriously want to do this then why would people pay for it. seems to me it would just be like your TV channels basically. I would rather pay for TV and books/magazines then the internet if this happened. there are other ways to solve their problems. not every single thing should be about money either. the internet definitely has never been about making money as far as i know.

oh well, nothing i personally can do, either the masses will sit back and do nothing like they tend to do, or will put up a fight and stop this.

1) Learn to spell. Or use the spellcheck button.

2) It doesn't bother me as I'm with Tiscali.

3) No doubt all ISP's want to do it but the customers won't let them.

[QUOTE="mattyftm"]

1. its virgin not vergin.

2. aparently its not just virgin doing it: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

seabiscuit8686

I think he spelled it Vergin because he thought GS would censor him. At least I hope so, because it is in his sig

Good call, but it let me change it so I don't have to worry about it now.

He then spelt it Vegin in the first post. I'm with Virgin and I'm a happy customer, love my 20mb connection and it's consistent. I really doubt they will end up doing this, or atleast I really hope they don't and I wouldn't expect them to... but who knows, if it's going to earn them more money they aren't gunna give a crap what we think.Brainkiller05

how much does a 20mb connection cost over there?

I hope this doesn't happen. if they seriously want to do this then why would people pay for it. seems to me it would just be like your TV channels basically. I would rather pay for TV and books/magazines then the internet if this happened. there are other ways to solve their problems. not every single thing should be about money either. the internet definitely has never been about making money as far as i know.

oh well, nothing i personally can do, either the masses will sit back and do nothing like they tend to do, or will put up a fight and stop this.

Gokuja

Are you kidding me? Tell that to Google. Tell that to Facebook. Tell that to eBay. Tell that to just about every Fortune 500 company that has a website out there whose sole purpose is to support sales for the company.

Making money on the internet is certainly what companies want to do. Fortunately, if this were the case and a significant number of websites were excluded from the service, people would simply choose to not pay for Virgin (or any other ISP for that matter) if their favorite websites were blocked due to this. The invisible hand driving capitalism will prevail.

1. its virgin not vergin.

2. aparently its not just virgin doing it, its all ISP's: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

mattyftm

I have to say I'm pretty disapointed /_/

Infact I remember reading not so long ago that you'd get a package eg. "The ITV, BBC, Youtube, Myspace package" and you'd get full speed on those sites, but everyone site your speed would be limited... that'd suck but I wasn't gunna go mad about it. But now I hear you just wont be able to access any other website at all, which seems quite a bit outrageous... which makes me think the rumours getting passed around got a little mixed up.Brainkiller05

Spread the word.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Infact I remember reading not so long ago that you'd get a package eg. "The ITV, BBC, Youtube, Myspace package" and you'd get full speed on those sites, but everyone site your speed would be limited... that'd suck but I wasn't gunna go mad about it. But now I hear you just wont be able to access any other website at all, which seems quite a bit outrageous... which makes me think the rumours getting passed around got a little mixed up.W3dotCOM

Spread the word.

Fortunately, if this were the case and a significant number of websites were excluded from the service, people would simply choose to not pay for Virgin (or any other ISP for that matter) if their favorite websites were blocked due to this. The invisible hand driving capitalism will prevail.

ravensfan5252

fortunately, the ever prevalent cable monopoly will destroy the hand.

that will never fly in america, i guess it could be considered a monopolyFUBAR24

An internet service provider giving varying levels of service to different websites isn't a monopoly. That's like saying an airline company is a monopoly for providing 10 daily flights to New York, but only 1 to Chicago.

that will never fly in america, i guess it could be considered a monopolyFUBAR24

Neither will it "fly" in the UK. No one will want it so companies won't do it. If they do then their customers are pretty much gone. The internet is supposed to be open. If you limit it then your basically killing it.

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"]that will never fly in america, i guess it could be considered a monopolyOleg_Huzwog

An internet service provider giving varying levels of service to different websites isn't a monopoly. That's like saying an airline company is a monopoly for providing 10 daily flights to New York, but only 1 to Chicago.

ahh ok

If this happends I'm pretty sure some smart people will start new ISP companies that will have no such restrictions, then all the people will flock to them.BlackAlpha666

That's just it. You can't rely on wht may happen. You have to speak out and do something for yourselves.

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]If this happends I'm pretty sure some smart people will start new ISP companies that will have no such restrictions, then all the people will flock to them.W3dotCOM

That's just it. You can't rely on wht may happen. You have to speak out and do something for yourselves.

So go start your own ISP company.

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="mattyftm"]

1. its virgin not vergin.

2. aparently its not just virgin doing it: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

FUBAR24

I think he spelled it Vergin because he thought GS would censor him. At least I hope so, because it is in his sig

lol thats probably the case but luckly im an american and we have the ACLU to stop people from doing that

ya amen to that. I dont see why they would change in the US; things seem pretty damn good here in terms of profit and stuff for ISPs.

I keep hearing about how other countries only get like 5GB a month or something, that just seems so wrong to me.

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]If this happends I'm pretty sure some smart people will start new ISP companies that will have no such restrictions, then all the people will flock to them.W3dotCOM

That's just it. You can't rely on wht may happen. You have to speak out and do something for yourselves.

I just meant that it won't be the end of the internet if this actaully happends.