Schools are just crappin' on the good guys...

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

[QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

lonewolf604

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

[QUOTE="S34L"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

Vilot_Hero

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

Did I ever say/type that? And yes, women are physically weaker than men on average. Just get over it. We are not the same. Need I post pictures?

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="S34L"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

Did I ever say/type that? And yes, women are physically weaker than men on average. Just get over it. We are not the same. Need I post pictures?

Yes, please.

Zero-tolerance policies are pretty stupid, in their entirety. I could go on for a long time on how flawed they are, and it baffles me at how those policies got put in place in the first place. It's essentially saying that it's okay to apply absolutely no judgment in a situation besides the one person "in charge" that says who was involved in the fight.

[QUOTE="S34L"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

lonewolf604

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="S34L"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

Did I ever say/type that? And yes, women are physically weaker than men on average. Just get over it. We are not the same. Need I post pictures?

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

Yes, we are unequal in both the physical and mental sense. SOul-wise i think we are the same. Its just a fact of life. Not saying one is better than the other, they are just different in certain ways. Anyway, do you think that women shouldnt be treated with respect?

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

Zero-tolerance policies are pretty stupid, in their entirety. I could go on for a long time on how flawed they are, and it baffles me at how those policies got put in place in the first place. It's essentially saying that it's okay to apply absolutely no judgment in a situation besides the one person "in charge" that says who was involved in the fight.

dbz345

Thanks for getting this back on topic.

I agree though, Many times I have seen straight A, clear record, kids get into trouble when they arent looking for it.

yeah, they can be pretty unfair sometimes, and this thread switched gears so Im gonna put my two cents worth in:

Girls are different than guys, just look down below :)

Maybe you should calm down a little S34L.

Zero-tolerance policies are pretty stupid, in their entirety. I could go on for a long time on how flawed they are, and it baffles me at how those policies got put in place in the first place. It's essentially saying that it's okay to apply absolutely no judgment in a situation besides the one person "in charge" that says who was involved in the fight.

dbz345

I also have similar feelings, but in the schools respect, they probably don't get very fair judgement from high school kids testimonies on what happened. Many kids will just choose their friends side and you'll never get a good recognition on what happened and who started what. I'm not saying that I support the program, but it does make sense.

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

In a straight fist fight, no, I will not help him. And to your comment above, we are different in every way except for the way God sees us(soul-wise). There is no weaker or stronger on the physcologic level, just difference.

Maybe you should calm down a little S34L.

Vilot_Hero

About what? The argument with the other dude or the original post?

S34L

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

In a straight fist fight, no, I will not help him. And to your comment above, we are different in every way except for the way God sees us(soul-wise). There is no weaker or stronger on the physcologic level, just difference.

S34L

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

In a straight fist fight, no, I will not help him. And to your comment above, we are different in every way except for the way God sees us(soul-wise). There is no weaker or stronger on the physcologic level, just difference.

Both men and woman are the same in the sence that a girl can definitly be able the defend herself as much as a guy can. when you say that men are physically stronger naturally it doesent matter because that doesent mean that a girl cant lift weights or anything. when you say that you excpect a girl to be weak its a steriotyped view on woman that they arent interesting in being physical. but i can see were your coming in that sence, most parent would probly raise their little girl to be a "girl" and their little boy to be a "Man".

[QUOTE="dbz345"]

Zero-tolerance policies are pretty stupid, in their entirety. I could go on for a long time on how flawed they are, and it baffles me at how those policies got put in place in the first place. It's essentially saying that it's okay to apply absolutely no judgment in a situation besides the one person "in charge" that says who was involved in the fight.

S34L

Thanks for getting this back on topic.

I agree though, Many times I have seen straight A, clear record, kids get into trouble when they arent looking for it.

That happens way too often, really. But also what trodeback says kind of makes sense too, because the process of applying some kind of judgment is often flawed. For me however, the question stays: It is better to apply a possibly erroneous judgment, or a completely erroneous punishment?

S34L

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

In a straight fist fight, no, I will not help him. And to your comment above, we are different in every way except for the way God sees us(soul-wise). There is no weaker or stronger on the physcologic level, just difference.

Well there you go.

Lots of women are very big and strong, and lots of men are ****ing tiny weaklings.

S34L

If I see a man attacking a women, im going to help her. Jesus Christ, its just a matter of morality. Dont try to liberal-fy this into "we're all the same!" WR ARE NOT THE SAME! Get a dose of reality and quit being ignorant!

In a straight fist fight, no, I will not help him. And to your comment above, we are different in every way except for the way God sees us(soul-wise). There is no weaker or stronger on the physcologic level, just difference.

What if a woman is violently beating a man? Would you help the man?

its because of this zero tolerance crap. no exceptions, if you were involved, your getting punished. most schools/districts do it so that they dont have to deal with any legal bs. basically theyre making life harder for you so its easier for them. its total bs.Xeros606

A nice example to set, yes?

[QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

lonewolf604

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

riseagnstfan

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

That's how world is no matter how much you try to defend someone, hitting them is off limits, because no one has any real rights to do that....the best thing you could've done is to pull your friend back or if that didn't work even if you didn't want to be the bastard that rat out on them you had to, because the administrators are the ones who are payed to break up fights...or something along that line

[QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

lonewolf604

They are generally biologically weaker. Are you going to punch someone weaker than you? Are you going to sit there while a stronger person beats the crap out of a weaker person?

They are generally biologically weaker. Are you going to punch someone weaker than you? Are you going to sit there while a stronger person beats the crap out of a weaker person?The_Ish

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

The_Ish

They are generally biologically weaker. Are you going to punch someone weaker than you? Are you going to sit there while a stronger person beats the crap out of a weaker person?

Unfortunately the topic this was meant to be (that the skool system is flawed) is true . But even worse it doesnt stick just to skool. In western australia (maybe the whoel of australia) aboiriginals have special rights. The other night i saw one hit a security guard and the security literally ran away. I think its becoming pretty pathetic.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

The_Ish

They are generally biologically weaker. Are you going to punch someone weaker than you? Are you going to sit there while a stronger person beats the crap out of a weaker person?

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

lonewolf604

They are generally biologically weaker. Are you going to punch someone weaker than you? Are you going to sit there while a stronger person beats the crap out of a weaker person?

You would have to be one weak*** to stand and watch a girl get beaten up. Or eg. If a 12 year old kid was getting beat up by a 17 year old obviously you would help aswell regardless of the situation. You cant help by waiting til the fite is over then walknig up and saying "are u ok?" thats just pathetic. You get in throw the offender out of the fite and if they dont leave u take over

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

SataniC-MoOn

They are generally biologically weaker. Are you going to punch someone weaker than you? Are you going to sit there while a stronger person beats the crap out of a weaker person?

You would have to be one weak*** to stand and watch a girl get beaten up. Or eg. If a 12 year old kid was getting beat up by a 17 year old obviously you would help aswell regardless of the situation. You cant help by waiting til the fite is over then walknig up and saying "are u ok?" thats just pathetic. You get in throw the offender out of the fite and if they dont leave u take over

I protect girls with a helmet on only!

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

S34L

There's no justice in the public education system. It's every man for himself.

[QUOTE="Xeros606"]its because of this zero tolerance crap. no exceptions, if you were involved, your getting punished. most schools/districts do it so that they dont have to deal with any legal bs. basically theyre making life harder for you so its easier for them. its total bs.gasmaskman

A nice example to set, yes?

yes lol :|

[QUOTE="S34L"]

Ok, A fight is about to break out at school. My friends involved in it. He has a record of fights so I try to break it up. As im pulling them away from each other a teacher walks into the bathroom. To make a long story short, Me, my friend, and the other guy get tickets and have to go to alternate schools.

While I was waiting in the office, literally 20 people (this was in the lockerroom bathroom, its pretty big and there are alot of people in PE), many of whom Im dont know that well, come to my defense on their own free will and say I was doing the right thing and just trying to stop it. I still get a ticket and am currently fighting it.

A kid once got expelled because he fought someone else who hit a girl right in front of him. He did the right thing and still gets in trouble. Whats up with this? Cant the school atleast stand up for something good instead of trying to be on evertones side?

lonewolf604

how about something called chivalry?