Science vs Religion is the ultimate waste of time

Waste of time, waste of energy, waste of bandwidth. Yet we do it all the time. I do it myself. If someone tells me that science cannot account for X, Y or Z i explain to them how it can. If they demand that science prove that God doesn't exist, i explain that it cannot and does not claim to.

On the flip side, the religious demand explanations for miracles, proof for evolution etc etc.

And here is why both are an absolute waste of time:

If tomorrow we found 100% conclusive proof that God does not exist, it would make no difference to someone who believes that he does. That proof was planted by satan to make you stray from the correct path. Or it is a test from God to see if your faith is strong. While there are certainly some scientists who also claim to be deeply religious, i don't think they really are one way or the other. They simply cannot co-exist.

Who agrees? :)

I agree. There are much better things to debate. Like politics.

I agree. There are much better things to debate. Like politics.

airshocker

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I agree. There are much better things to debate. Like politics.

Ninja-Hippo

Nah even that one is pointless these days. Obama = socialist. Bush = hitler :P Ninja-Hippo

No it's not. :P It's always good to have healthy debate on politics.

Science asks and answers the question of "How." Religion asks and answers the question of "Why." As long as they don't start asking the other area's question, the two can and do co-exist.Theokhoth

I hate how some people claim that the problems within outside factions are because they're "not with God", yet within their own predicament, it "was the devil's mingling", or so.CRS98

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I agree. There are much better things to debate. Like politics.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Science asks and answers the question of "How." Religion asks and answers the question of "Why." As long as they don't start asking the other area's question, the two can and do co-exist.Ninja-Hippo

And of course religion doesn't use any scientific method; it's not a science. It has its own methods.

[QUOTE="CRS98"]I hate how some people claim that the problems within outside factions are because they're "not with God", yet within their own predicament, it "was the devil's mingling", or so.Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Science asks and answers the question of "How." Religion asks and answers the question of "Why." As long as they don't start asking the other area's question, the two can and do co-exist.Ninja-Hippo

Eh. I enjoy a good theoretical debate, whether crossing zones or not. Just out right "I'm right!" arguments are never productive... but thinking about if God could be proven by science? Now that is quite interesting. I personally don't see why it couldn't be possible for science to prove either way, especially in light of our recent discovery that our universe is being acted upon by another universe (or entity; "dark flow"), its just as soon as that happens, faith becomes non-essential and religion falls apart.

And if that were to happen, I'd have to find a new career.

Waste of time, waste of energy, waste of bandwidth. Yet we do it all the time. I do it myself. If someone tells me that science cannot account for X, Y or Z i explain to them how it can. If they demand that science prove that God doesn't exist, i explain that it cannot and does not claim to.

On the flip side, the religious demand explanations for miracles, proof for evolution etc etc.

And here is why both are an absolute waste of time:

If tomorrow we found 100% conclusive proof that God does not exist, it would make no difference to someone who believes that he does. That proof was planted by satan to make you stray from the correct path. Or it is a test from God to see if your faith is strong. While there are certainly some scientists who also claim to be deeply religious, i don't think they really are one way or the other. They simply cannot co-exist.

Who agrees? :)

Ninja-Hippo

I hate how some people claim that the problems within outside factions are because they're "not with God", yet within their own predicament, it "was the devil's mingling", or so.CRS98

The only time science and religion need to be brought up in the same sentence is when religion is deliberately hindering scientific progress, which to my knowledge hasn't happened since before the age of enlightenment :P

All I have to say is that everyone's beliefs should be best kept to themselves and not imposed onto others.

To each their own.

I don't think I've ever debated religion here, it's so pointless. Beatin' a dead horse every time.

Science and religion do not compete because science and religion are not competitors.

One tests physical things we can observe, and the other is completely a matter of faith or skepticism.

I agree that science vs. religion is a pointless argument as they don't conflict with one another, unless dealing with supposed religious beliefs about physical, "observable" claims of "evidence" pointing to a deity. As you correctly state, people often won't change their minds no matter the argument. I disagree with the notion that science and religion cannot coexist. They don't inherently conflict.

Even though I don't like your undertones, I do agree.

These threads get us no ware and quickly get off topic, and just become a flame war.

Science and religion can get along (bible praises pursuit of wisdom and knowledge).

Heck the key contributors to evolutionary theory have a religious background.

Darwin(evolution): theological education

Mendel(genetics): a priest

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="CRS98"]I hate how some people claim that the problems within outside factions are because they're "not with God", yet within their own predicament, it "was the devil's mingling", or so.CRS98

lol

science isn't there to prove non exsixting matter in this world when they already know the answer, if it can't be proved by sight, smelled, touched, heard nor matter to a life been then it can not have a true or false statement to it. any scientist will tell you that and will not waste their time on it...

scientist as proved that bibles of religions as been writen and rewritten and twisted around hundreds of times through out time.

in my opinion relgion was created by humans to give/force other huamns to follow their idea's... people follow because they want confort that somone is looking over them and leading them the right way.

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omg dude i can not stop laughing bout your sig... most fun i had all day togather as 9/11 mem shows taking over all my t.v stations

lol

science isn't there to prove non exsixting matter in this world when they already know the answer, if it can't be proved by sight, smelled, touched, heard nor matter to a life been then it can not have a true or false statement to it. any scientist will tell you that and will not waste their time on it...

scientist as proved that bibles of religions as been writen and rewritten and twisted around hundreds of times through out time.

in my opinion relgion was created by humans to give/force other huamns to follow their idea's... people follow because they want confort that somone is looking over them and leading them the right way.

k2theswiss

My head hurts from the grammar here.:?

Also "historians"(like archaeologist) would be the ones involved in bible research, not scientist....

Waste of time, waste of energy, waste of bandwidth. Yet we do it all the time. I do it myself. If someone tells me that science cannot account for X, Y or Z i explain to them how it can. If they demand that science prove that God doesn't exist, i explain that it cannot and does not claim to.

On the flip side, the religious demand explanations for miracles, proof for evolution etc etc.

And here is why both are an absolute waste of time:

If tomorrow we found 100% conclusive proof that God does not exist, it would make no difference to someone who believes that he does. That proof was planted by satan to make you stray from the correct path. Or it is a test from God to see if your faith is strong. While there are certainly some scientists who also claim to be deeply religious, i don't think they really are one way or the other. They simply cannot co-exist.

Who agrees? :)

Ninja-Hippo

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Waste of time, waste of energy, waste of bandwidth. Yet we do it all the time. I do it myself. If someone tells me that science cannot account for X, Y or Z i explain to them how it can. If they demand that science prove that God doesn't exist, i explain that it cannot and does not claim to.

On the flip side, the religious demand explanations for miracles, proof for evolution etc etc.

And here is why both are an absolute waste of time:

If tomorrow we found 100% conclusive proof that God does not exist, it would make no difference to someone who believes that he does. That proof was planted by satan to make you stray from the correct path. Or it is a test from God to see if your faith is strong. While there are certainly some scientists who also claim to be deeply religious, i don't think they really are one way or the other. They simply cannot co-exist.

Who agrees? :)

Snipes_2

EDIT: i have seen no insults.

lol

science isn't there to prove non exsixting matter in this world when they already know the answer, if it can't be proved by sight, smelled, touched, heard nor matter to a life been then it can not have a true or false statement to it. any scientist will tell you that and will not waste their time on it...

scientist as proved that bibles of religions as been writen and rewritten and twisted around hundreds of times through out time.

in my opinion relgion was created by humans to give/force other huamns to follow their idea's... people follow because they want confort that somone is looking over them and leading them the right way.

k2theswiss

Really? Is religion still around these days? Hmm, I thought we would've evolved beyond it by now..

ANlMOSITY

Science asks and answers the question of "How." Religion asks and answers the question of "Why." As long as they don't start asking the other area's question, the two can and do co-exist.Theokhoth

TC, you realize that in your efforts to express how much of a waste of time arguing over science v religion is, you created yet another science v religion thread where we argue over it.F1_2004

:lol:

Your avatar complements your message too well.

Nothing will instantly convert a person who's spent their entire life being indoctrinated, but every little thing counts.

I think that it's pretty much a waste of time to debate anything important on gamespot.Laserwolf65

Science and religion only contradict if you make the false assumption that science is equated to pure naturalism or the religion intentionally intends to defy logic (which is not the case with Christianity btw).mindstorm

They simply cannot co-exist.

Ninja-Hippo

I can't disagree more, and in fact I would say the opposite: that, when practiced properly, they cannot help but co-exist. Each of them when put in their proper place performs a function that the other cannot perform: science tells us what is true, and religion tells us what ought to be true. Of course, people tend to try and force both of them to a realm where they do not belong, but that's a separate issue.

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They simply cannot co-exist.

GabuEx

I can't disagree more, and in fact I would say the opposite: that, when practiced properly, they cannot help but co-exist. Each of them when put in their proper place performs a function that the other cannot perform: science tells us what is true, and religion tells us what ought to be true. Of course, people tend to try and force both of them to a realm where they do not belong, but that's a separate issue.

[QUOTE="CRS98"]I hate how some people claim that the problems within outside factions are because they're "not with God", yet within their own predicament, it "was the devil's mingling", or so.Theokhoth