Scientists sucessfully achieve suspended animation in the lab.

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Top boffins in the States believe that they may be on the track of a way to place living human beings into suspended animation, allowing them to survive long periods effectively frozen before being "reanimated" with no ill effects.

Dr Mark Roth, based at a Seattle cancer laboratory, got interested in suspended animation after looking at several cases where this has occurred spontaneously in humans.

One well-known case is that of Canadian toddler Erica Nordby, who wandered outside in the winter of 2001 wearing only her nappy. In the bitter cold her heart stopped beating for two hours and her body temperature plunged to just 16°C* before she was rescued, warmed - and came miraculously back to life, despite having literally frozen to death.

In another case a Japanese man, Mitsutaka Uchikoshi, fell asleep on a snowy mountainside in 2006. He was found 23 days later with a core body temperature of just 22°C*. He too was successfully reanimated having suffered no appreciable ill effects.

"There are many examples in the scientific literature of humans who appear frozen to death. They have no heartbeat and are clinically dead. But they can be reanimated," says Dr Roth.

Roth and his colleagues wondered how it is that some people can enter a state of frozen suspended animation and then recover from it safely, whereas in general such a change of body temperature is deadly.

The scientists now think they may be on the track of an answer, having learned how to perform the same trick reliably with other lifeforms; in this case yeasts and nematode worms.

Yeasts and worms, like humans, will normally simply die if they are chilled down past a certain point. But Roth and his colleagues have found that if the little creatures are starved of oxygen before turning on the cold, they will go into suspended animation from which they recover on warming and go on to live normal yeasty or wormy lives.

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This is really cool, this might open up new pathways to space travel and various medical breakthroughs. I don't understand how this works, someone dies and then they bring them back to life?

Thoughts?

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#2 EMOEVOLUTION
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in the future the scientists will be the tyrants and the rest of us will be their slaves. We wont have to worry about the politicians anymore.
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#3 Mochyc
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in the future the scientists will be the tyrants and the rest of us will be their slaves. We wont have to worry about the politicians anymore.EMOEVOLUTION
And how is that going to happen?
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]in the future the scientists will be the tyrants and the rest of us will be their slaves. We wont have to worry about the politicians anymore.Mochyc
And how is that going to happen?

how is not important.
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#5 Mochyc
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]in the future the scientists will be the tyrants and the rest of us will be their slaves. We wont have to worry about the politicians anymore.EMOEVOLUTION
And how is that going to happen?

how is not important.

Then why? Where? When? And how is important. If we are to attempt to prevent it, then we must know how it will be done.
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#6 EMOEVOLUTION
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] And how is that going to happen?

how is not important.

Then why? Where? When? And how is important. If we are to attempt to prevent it, then we must know how it will be done.

It cannot be prevented. Either I am wrong, or it will happen.
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]in the future the scientists will be the tyrants and the rest of us will be their slaves. We wont have to worry about the politicians anymore.EMOEVOLUTION
And how is that going to happen?

how is not important.

Could you be more vague?

"Oh yeah, it will happen....someday....somehow"

I personally see this being pretty useful if they can use it for long haul space trips to other planets.

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#8 Mochyc
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] how is not important.

Then why? Where? When? And how is important. If we are to attempt to prevent it, then we must know how it will be done.

It cannot be prevented. Either I am wrong, or it will happen.

Ok, here's a question you (hopefully) can't dodge: what makes you think scientists will be the tyrants?
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inb4 this turns into a religion thread

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#10 EMOEVOLUTION
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] And how is that going to happen?KlepticGrooves

how is not important.

Could you be more vague?

"Oh yeah, it will happen....someday....somehow"

I personally see this being pretty useful if they can use it for long haul space trips to other planets.

I don't like to condense ideas. Because ideas are not simple, or precise. They are a combination of many ideas. And so if I start to narrow what I'm saying.. I'll leave out so much that it's probably not worth saying at all.
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isn't one of the main problems prolonged freezing starves the brain of oxygen and causes severe brain damage?
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#12 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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That's pretty cool..

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Strange and awesome, wonder how long you can last?
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#14 Richymisiak
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That's pretty cool..

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oh you
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] Then why? Where? When? And how is important. If we are to attempt to prevent it, then we must know how it will be done.

It cannot be prevented. Either I am wrong, or it will happen.

Ok, here's a question you (hopefully) can't dodge: what makes you think scientists will be the tyrants?

because I don't give you an answer you find satisfying doesn't mean I'm dodging anything. What I say is what appeals to me. You follow one train of thought, and I'm following another. Scientists will be tyrants because those without the know how will be unable to stop them from deciding what is possible for the rest of the population. They will be an elite social tier. As of right now they work under the politicians and corporations. When they see that they don't need the politicians or corporations, then this will stop, and they will evolve into the roll of the leaders. And we will not get to elect them, because they know what is best for us. That is what I think, ask me to explain how I got there, and you will never get a straight answer.
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Hang on, I've seen this Angel episode, it doesn't end well.

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#17 deactivated-590595a6292ce
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Well, this is cool.

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#18 Ninja-Hippo
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They've got it to work on worms. I think humans are a little more complex than worms. :P
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#19 Gonzafan
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I love all science experiments, especially the ones done by scientists.

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Pfft I discovered suspended animation ages ago. I enter this thing called a bed and just close my eyes for a while and then I eventually die. In about 8 or so hours I come back to life feeling the same as I did before. Its truly incredible!
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That is pretty damn cool.
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Anyone with the ability to ****something up or use their technology to extort othersis a potential threat. To a scientist people areguinea pigs and the world is their experiment. Their oppurtunity to gain power and wealth. They are no different than any politician or business.

It's something that can't be explained without months of explanation and education. You wouldn't listen either, because you don't want to believe it anyway. The actions and results of those actions will prove their intentions in time. It's a lesson that can only be learned through experience. You can't be warned beforehand, you will have toexperineceit.

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Nice, but will it be used for anything else than travelling to another planet?
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#24 Wolls
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Well, this is cool.

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Oh i see what you did there ;)
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Science is both scary and amazing these days. There is no limit, I dont know what will eventually happen to humanity.
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#26 Snipes_2
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They've got it to work on worms. I think humans are a little more complex than worms. :PNinja-Hippo
Good Point. Still pretty cool though.
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Science is both scary and amazing these days. There is no limit, I dont know what will eventually happen to humanity.GazaAli
You can always freeze yourself for thousand of years to find out. :P
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Anyone with the ability to ****something up or use their technology to extort othersis a potential threat. To a scientist people areguinea pigs and the world is their experiment. Their oppurtunity to gain power and wealth. They are no different than any politician or business.

It's something that can't be explained without months of explanation and education. You wouldn't listen either, because you don't want to believe it anyway. The actions and results of those actions will prove their intentions in time. It's a lesson that can only be learned through experience. You can't be warned beforehand, you will have toexperineceit.

MagnumPI
Yeah, because every scientist goes into research to become a multi-billionaire :/
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Science is both scary and amazing these days. There is no limit, I dont know what will eventually happen to humanity.Lonelynight
You can always freeze yourself for thousand of years to find out. :P

I saw what you did there.
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bu bu bu didn't walt disney already freeze himself?!!?
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bu bu bu didn't walt disney already freeze himself?!!?lloveLamp

Nope, Not according to SNopes :(

http://www.snopes.com/disney/waltdisn/frozen.asp

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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]bu bu bu didn't walt disney already freeze himself?!!?Snipes_2

Nope, Not according to SNopes :(

http://www.snopes.com/disney/waltdisn/frozen.asp

how dissapointing.. i was thinking one day they would ressurect walt disney, hitler stalin. the whole gang in fact. and have an epic deathmatch :(
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#33 BioDogshock
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Sweet.

Now i can accidentally and just before i end it freeze myself then 500 years later

BLAMMO. FIRST TORPEDO OF THE FUTURE!

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Ship to another Galaxy on auto-pilot with crew in suspended animation. When they get there they're automatically revived :shock:

That would be ridiculously cool.

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Now the only thing we need is a super soldier serum and a skinny patriotic American boy and we can have a real life Captain America..
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Interesting.
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#37 gameboy343
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man i wanna br frozen for a thousand years and wake up in the world of tomorrow.

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Ship to another Galaxy on auto-pilot with crew in suspended animation. When they get there they're automatically revived :shock:

That would be ridiculously cool.

urdead18

Yes, cool.

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Sounds cool. Could be useful. Hmm.

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That does sound pretty awesome. Maybe we can get portable suspended animation units and skip boring conversations at the tap of a button.
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#41 brandontwb
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Ship to another Galaxy on auto-pilot with crew in suspended animation. When they get there they're automatically revived :shock:

That would be ridiculously cool.

urdead18
It would be even more amazing because it should feel like only a few minutes passed because you're not aware of time.
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#42 lightleggy
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This is really cool, this might open up new pathways to space travel and various medical breakthroughs. I don't understand how this works, someone dies and then they bring them back to life?

Thoughts?

Lt_Horatio

they are not dead, they are SUSPENDED

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Note to self, add a claus that should I be near death with cancer I would like to be suspended until the cure is found. Excellent. The pieces on the board are starting to come together...
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#44 bigblunt537
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I hate religious arguments, but I'll ask this question regardless. If a "God" does exist and a heaven does as well what would happen? Essentially this is killing someone and bringing them back to life. So if someone was killed for a thousand years and a heaven does exist would it be wrong to bring them back?

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#45 jwsoul
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inb4 this turns into a religion thread

gamedude2020
I was thinking that as well.
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#46 Ringx55
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[QUOTE="gamedude2020"]

inb4 this turns into a religion thread

jwsoul

I was thinking that as well.

Just a tad late...

But thisi s pretty cool considering if you get a fatal disease you can just freeze yourself for a couple years and hope they have it cured.

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it can be has deep space travel tiem noa plz?

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#48 ArchonBasic
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Cool research, but it remains to be seen how effective it will be. They'll need to duplicate the results on mice next, and then try to determine how long the suspended animation will last. The effect would need to hold for at least a few years for it to be useful.

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#49 kuraimen
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Roth_(scientist)

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#50 thriteenthmonke
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they are not dead, they are SUSPENDED

lightleggy
GS already figured out how to do that.