Scientology..... Religion or Cult?

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#1 Gen_Warbuff
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Do you feel that Scientology is a valid "religion" or just a type of mind washing cult like Heavens Gate?

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#3 feryl06
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Scientology is a cult--no other way around the truth.

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Not a fan of it but its big enough and prosecuted enough to be considered a religion.
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all religons are cults of sort, religons are just big cults that people think they know alot about
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all religons are cults of sort, religons are just big cults that people think they know alot aboutmarkop2003
This man tells the truth.
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#8 Vandalvideo
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People believe it, it involves supernatural forces, it is a religion.
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#9 loco145
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Where's the money scam option?
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Where's the money scam option?loco145

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

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#11 x_Martyr_x
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neither. its a money scam.

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#12 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"]Where's the money scam option?Buddha_basic

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

Huh? The catholic church have never scammed money out of me. You can read the bible for free.
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Both: it's a religion and a cult. A valid religion, though, is a different matter.
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#14 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]Where's the money scam option?loco145

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

Huh? The catholic church have never scammed money out of me. You can read the bible for free.

He said 'most'. ;)

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#16 loco145
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You read the bible? ...Im sorry.

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Wiw, isn't that trolling? Anyway, is one of the most important literature pieces of the man kind. World Culture. And ye,s I have the Koran also.
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#17 Buddha_basic
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[QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

You read the bible? ...Im sorry.

loco145

Wiw, isn't that trolling? Anyway, is one of the most important literature pieces of the man kind. World Culture. And ye,s I have the Koran also.

I'd argue that. Most of those storys are not even relevant to today....At the base of it they might, (keyword might), have some good moral teachings...but you need the bible for that?

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#18 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

You read the bible? ...Im sorry.

Buddha_basic

Wiw, isn't that trolling? Anyway, is one of the most important literature pieces of the man kind. World Culture. And ye,s I have the Koran also.

I'd argue that. Most of those storys are not even relevant to today....At the base of it they might, (keyword might), have some good moral teachings...but you need the bible for that?

Relevancy?Hundreds of Millions of people believe what is written on it and make political, scientific, social and economic decisions based on it. How is that not relevant? :lol:
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Look right here lol, xenu
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#20 Buddha_basic
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[QUOTE="Buddha_basic"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

You read the bible? ...Im sorry.

loco145

Wiw, isn't that trolling? Anyway, is one of the most important literature pieces of the man kind. World Culture. And ye,s I have the Koran also.

Thats what im saying. Look at what a faith based administration got us to. oh but "god" told bush what to do so....

I'd argue that. Most of those storys are not even relevant to today....At the base of it they might, (keyword might), have some good moral teachings...but you need the bible for that?

Relevancy?Hundreds of Millions of people believe what is written on it and make political, scientific, social and economic decisions based on it. How is that not relevant? :lol:

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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

You read the bible? ...Im sorry.

Buddha_basic

Wiw, isn't that trolling? Anyway, is one of the most important literature pieces of the man kind. World Culture. And ye,s I have the Koran also.

Thats what im saying. Look at what a faith based administration got us to. oh but "god" told bush what to do so....

I'd argue that. Most of those storys are not even relevant to today....At the base of it they might, (keyword might), have some good moral teachings...but you need the bible for that?

Relevancy?Hundreds of Millions of people believe what is written on it and make political, scientific, social and economic decisions based on it. How is that not relevant? :lol:

Hmm gamespot seems to be messing up. But thats exactly whhat im saying. Look where a faith based administration has gotten us. But "god" told G.W. what to do so its ok.

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Thats what im saying. Look at what a faith based administration got us to. oh but "god" told bush what to do so....Buddha_basic
No, that isn't what you are saying. You are said that it wasn't relevant :lol:
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[QUOTE="Buddha_basic"] Thats what im saying. Look at what a faith based administration got us to. oh but "god" told bush what to do so....loco145
No, that isn't what you are saying. You are said that it wasn't relevant :lol:

Well i mispoke. Ok its relevant, but only because we have an administration and people of power that make it relevant. Its actually really scary...

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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"] Thats what im saying. Look at what a faith based administration got us to. oh but "god" told bush what to do so....Buddha_basic

No, that isn't what you are saying. You are said that it wasn't relevant :lol:

Well i mispoke. Ok its relevant, but only because we have an administration and people of power that make it relevant. Its actually really scary...

Well, if you read it then you would know that they don't follow it at all... But no, the Joke is on me because of I read the bible, right? :roll:
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[QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"] Thats what im saying. Look at what a faith based administration got us to. oh but "god" told bush what to do so....loco145

No, that isn't what you are saying. You are said that it wasn't relevant :lol:

Well i mispoke. Ok its relevant, but only because we have an administration and people of power that make it relevant. Its actually really scary...

Well, if you read it then you would know that they don't follow it at all... But no, the Joke is on me because of read the bible, right? :roll:

Lol who said i have not read the bible? Just because i disagree with it? Wouldnt i have to have read it to disagree with it?

But i WAS just joking...but its not on you. I just find it frightening that people can vote for someone (im not saying you) based solely on their religion. And believe me thats what happened with President Bush, and thats whats happening with McCain and Palin. I LIVE next to people who state this.

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Its pretty much the same as any other religion. The only diference is that it isn't mainstream, so people can get away with ridiculing their beliefs.
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#27 loco145
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Its pretty much the same as any other religion. The only diference is that it isn't mainstream, so people can get away with ridiculing their beliefs.mattyftm
No, the difference is that it is a money scam. There are also money scams based on Christian religions. Like that Brazilian Christian church that charges money (hundres of dollars and above) for miracles.
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#28 Baranga
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Science.
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[QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]Where's the money scam option?loco145

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

Huh? The catholic church have never scammed money out of me. You can read the bible for free.

so thwe catholic church just became the richest organisation in the world by chance?

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#30 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]Where's the money scam option?markop2003

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

Huh? The catholic church have never scammed money out of me. You can read the bible for free.

so thwe catholic church just became the richest organisation in the world by chance?

It is? Wow, I thought the US government had more moneys.
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Cult through and through. It was made solely to make money.
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#32 markop2003
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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]Where's the money scam option?loco145

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

Huh? The catholic church have never scammed money out of me. You can read the bible for free.

so thwe catholic church just became the richest organisation in the world by chance?

It is? Wow, I thought the US government had more moneys.

US goverment is a nation not an organisation, organisation includes companies and charities and such.

Though the american goverment dosn't have as much money as you think as they owe trillions to china

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#33 loco145
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US goverment is a nation not an organisation, organisation includes companies and charities and such.

Though the american goverment dosn't have as much money as you think as they owe trillions to china

markop2003
Well, The vatican is a nation too.
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#34 Buddha_basic
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]Where's the money scam option?markop2003

Oh thats the religion option...

seriously isnt most religion money scam / cult?

Huh? The catholic church have never scammed money out of me. You can read the bible for free.

so thwe catholic church just became the richest organisation in the world by chance?

It is? Wow, I thought the US government had more moneys.

US goverment is a nation not an organisation, organisation includes companies and charities and such.

Though the american goverment dosn't have as much money as you think as they owe trillions to china

Exactly. We're how many trillions in debt too? We're still borrowing billions from china, billions from europe, billions from japan...

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Just another religion.
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#36 markop2003
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]

US goverment is a nation not an organisation, organisation includes companies and charities and such.

Though the american goverment dosn't have as much money as you think as they owe trillions to china

loco145

Well, The vatican is a nation too.

true but it dosn't really import or export much, most of it's wealth comes from shares and such, acording to the internet they hold at least $500million in shares in the US alone and have milliions of dollers worth of gold held in the federal reserve, swiss and london banks

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If you think about it, the only difference between a religion and a cult is social acceptance.

Although beilieveing in a man in the heavens creating exsistence in 7 days and believing in alien souls being trapped in a volcano by an alien overlord are quite different. Again South Park hit in on the head with that one. But still there both pretty tall tales to have faith in.

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#38 Ontain
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what's the real difference between a religion and a cult? number of members? power? influence?
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It's the truth.
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#40 Theokhoth
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Scientology is, without a doubt, a violent, nonsensical cult. This fact is demonstrated repeatedly by things like Operation Snow White.
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It's a scam to make money.
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#42 Theokhoth
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what's the real difference between a religion and a cult? number of members? power? influence?Ontain

The way they treat their own members and non-members.

For example, a cult may remove its members from friends or family that are not of that cult (Scientology does this). A cult could also control a member's finances and information.