Sentencing of Gymnastics Doctor 40 TO 175 years?

ok, seriously.. we get nassar is a monster , that's not the issue. I have a mathematical question which pertains to the drama queen limelight basking judge....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42806911

If the monster is 55 yrs old... does it even matter if he gets 40 years (minimum) vs 175 years (maximum)? There is no difference due to avg human life expectancy.

I also want to see Judge Judy fight Judge Rosemarie Aquilina 1 vs 1. (rooting for the former). Aquilna's pencil eyebrows freak me out more than Judy's Tales From the Crypt Neckline

what i don't understand is that this guy as part of his "plea deal" agreed to listen to 150+ victims berate him for 3 weeks.

he's going to jail for life either way, i don't see why he just didn't tell them to **** off, add 50 more years.

The age of the defendant does not matter, sentences are not handed down based on anything other than guilt. The man was a monster and was effectively handed a multiple life sentence because of the evidence presented to the judge.

He actually took a plea deal--it never even went to trial. Imagine the sentence he would have gotten if it did and was found guilty.

He's already been sentenced to 60 years in a previous trial after being found guilty on child porn charges, and I think he still has another trial coming up soon. I'm wondering if this sentence is going to run concurrently with his first sentence or consecutively.

A couple things:

The sentencing hearing was his plea deal. He plead guilty, and it bypassed the trial, straight to sentencing. Molesting gymnasts is one thing, but the guy had enough child porn to warrant 60 years. That's a lot of porn.

Second, the age of the defendant does not matter, the sentencing is as symbolic (more so, in this case) as it is practical. That is why he was forced to listen to the over one hundred victims he molested over his career.

Honestly I was very satisfied with the whole outcome (the only better outcome being he didn't do his crime), I just thought the judge was a bit of a ham, enjoying her role a bit too much. She ended the whole thing with a line like "I have signed your death sentence" and that is just dramatic and, in this specific case, wrong.

exactly, the judge was too much. Its like if Nasser knew there was no possible change in outcome, that his fate was fixed, symbolism irregardless. Doesn't matter how many life sentences. But the judge was such a ham. And her pencil drawn tattoo eyebrows.... wtf

Judy FTW :D

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/nassar-judge/551456/

I have to agree with the opinion expressed in this article.

I got this to say.

everyone is saying 'he will not last long in prison' Do you really think prision imates have a problem with someone feeling up a 13 year old? I mean come on people.

Yes.

I doubt it very seriously.

But I know people from the south and ozarks....those folks who are in prision would not have a problem with it.

keep in mind the media is sexualizing the actress who played an 11 year old in Stranger Things and people are eating it up.

omg. thanks for the link, i thought i was the only one,... the judge basically is detracting from the 100+ victims with her drama-queen behavior.

wait...16?

quantity aside I can say with extreme confidence that people in prison (who arent there for speeding) are not going to have a problem with a guy who felt up a 16 year old.

yes the context changes it over all but not the age factor

Isn't the point in impossibly long sentences that even if he gets some years taken off in an appeal it would still be a life sentence?

I don't understand how these things even happen. Is everyone involved that passive?

parents MUST take accountability... in fact, one victim states that her dad was so overwhelmed with guilt (for not believing her at first),... that well u know...

then on the other hand, u have these pathetic parents who are in complete denial who are like "no one would have known, because we had no clue".... YET they drop of their daughters to the house of another adult male unattended.... yeeeahh okkkkkay.

@tryit: Ha! Child molesters are the worst of the worst in prison. No respect for them. His ass will be handed to him, literally.

As a parent, my 5 year old knows nobody is allowed to touch her "privates". It's hard to imagine these 14-16 year olds not knowing it was wrong for him to do that, or maybe there was just too much pressure to tell someone. It's also amazing he got away with doing stuff to 100+ victims? To any girls reading this: Don't let a grown man or anyone you don't want touching your genitals! ... Parents, talk to your dang children about that kind of stuff!

Yes.

But you're also neglecting accountability for the coaching staff, the trainers, other professional, the entire USA Gymnastics program. Flawed? Yes. But also passive and enabling of extreme abuse -- yet, no accountability.

@SolidSnake35: I don't know the whole story, but the only time I can see these things actually happening is if the victims were drugged. It's hard to fathom how kids wouldn't know better, or their parents. The age of internet is here for any questions kids might have in that regard. That wasn't there when I was a kid. I had to ask my parents, who fortunately were really good about protecting me and my brothers.

I never really got why someone had to serve more years than they'd live out. At that point, just say life without parole.

I thought I heard that the purpose was to make it so he can't get parole. I could be wrong on that and I'm not well versed in anything law so...

Well the USA gymnastics trainers/staff/program are themselves the enablers. They don't have the best interest of the gymnasts in mind, they just want to milk them

You know criminals have morals too right? Prison isn't just full of people who think anything is okay and kid diddling is pretty universally loathed.

how do I say this.

there are many men in the south and in the ozarks who are not even in prision who would have no problem with the idea of feeling up at 16 year old. an 11 year old? no...a 16 year old? not a problem.

Prison just escalates that to more common. We are not talking about a 5 year old, we are talking about a 16 year old.

Hollywood sexualized an 11 year old character (talking about stranger things)! The entire society finds it intresting at worst.

So no...a Ozark hillbillie in prison for a drunk fight and arson is not going to have a problem with a guy who felt up a 16 year old hotty who likely has already had sex

@tryit: whats with the repeated Ozark reference?? lol. should we not visit that area?

Are you really trying to troll in a thread about one of the worst paedophiles in America?

Come on mate, I know you troll in PG but this is just sick.

So I guess you didn´t hear that the youngest victim was 6 and that MSU told the girls who reported it that they were wrong and that they just misinterpreted a normal "medical exam"

Even Parents were told this. Also, a lot of these victims never talked to their parents.

@Jacanuk: Didn't know that... Sick news. I'm in yhe room with the Dr with my 5 year old. Not sure what parent wouldn't be?

Some were in the next room during his abuse. But as I heard he told the parents that it was best they waited outside the times they were present.

I saw some of the victim statements on CBS and MSU is one sick place and the things they hid from parents and explained away is insane. I don´t get how any adult can sit idly by and listen to some of these girls.

And I'm glad there is no Death Penalty in such cases because he needs to sit in isolation for the rest of his life and fear for his life, everytime he goes out of his cell. The worst bit was the letter he wrote to the judge, the bit she did read pretty much showed he had zero remorse and the only thing he is sorry about is that he got caught.

I am saying in a society in which an 11 year old character is being sexualized (11 in stranger things) and where many teenagers are having sex before the age of 16 that its not out of line to suggest many of you have heard of at least one male person who has said they would like to feel up a woman even if she was 16.

what I am saying is that people in prision who are there for armed robbery might not find it anymore offensive then the guy who killed someone in the cell next to them.

get your head our of you ________ and stop with the group think

Here is the society we live in, as in not the people in prision

http://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/stranger-things/millie-bobby-brown-sexiest-tv-stars-and-like/

@multiplat said:

ok, seriously.. we get nassar is a monster , that's not the issue. I have a mathematical question which pertains to the drama queen limelight basking judge....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42806911

If the monster is 55 yrs old... does it even matter if he gets 40 years (minimum) vs 175 years (maximum)? There is no difference due to avg human life expectancy.

I also want to see Judge Judy fight Judge Rosemarie Aquilina 1 vs 1. (rooting for the former). Aquilna's pencil eyebrows freak me out more than Judy's Tales From the Crypt Neckline

So whats the deal with this guy ? Did he rape them while sleeping under the influence under his care ? Or how did he manage to get to this many girls ? How in the world was there no nurses or anyone around when your daughter, or girlfriend whatever is under the influence of prescribed meds ? And why is there no female doctor involved when its young girls ? The whole thing don't make sense to me. Then again i haven't read crap on this case.

So pointless. Just give him lethal injection and be done with it. Waste of taxpayer money imo if he’s never getting out and theres no chance of rehabilitation.

@LexLas said:

@multiplat said:

ok, seriously.. we get nassar is a monster , that's not the issue. I have a mathematical question which pertains to the drama queen limelight basking judge....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42806911

If the monster is 55 yrs old... does it even matter if he gets 40 years (minimum) vs 175 years (maximum)? There is no difference due to avg human life expectancy.

I also want to see Judge Judy fight Judge Rosemarie Aquilina 1 vs 1. (rooting for the former). Aquilna's pencil eyebrows freak me out more than Judy's Tales From the Crypt Neckline

So whats the deal with this guy ? Did he rape them while sleeping under the influence under his care ? Or how did he manage to get to this many girls ? How in the world was there no nurses or anyone around when your daughter, or girlfriend whatever is under the influence of prescribed meds ? And why is there no female doctor involved when its young girls ? The whole thing don't make sense to me. Then again i haven't read crap on this case.

Yea this seems far more shady, feels like a lot of people made it possible for this guy to go rampant. Far more heads should roll here.

I also find it extremely weird this guy could go on for such long time before somebody rings the bell.

If you daughter said, that some dude touches her in bad places as a dad how is this guy still walking the next day?

Let alone for 100+ girls.

How do people not realize that those predators often search those positions because for obvious reasons. Gotta be extra careful, also why is there a male doctor and not a female doctor for females?.

Because that would be easy and simple for him.

Looking in a cell for the next 50 years is or whatever long is going to be far far far far far more brutal.

@Gatygun: Yeah, but the “correctional” system was never supposed to be about justice or punishment. Either correct the behavior if possible, or remove them from society if not.

@appariti0n: it costs more to execute someone than it does to keep them in prison for life.

@toast_burner: source?

@appariti0n:

https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/

It's a pretty well established fact that the death penalty costs a lot more than life in prison.

@toast_burner: ahh very interesting ... the high cost of death penalty cases cost taxpayers dollars DURING THE TRIAL, and the PROCEEDING BEFORE.... the actual medical expense of the injectate liquid and supplies is not the expensive factor.

@toast_burner: That’s pretty insane. I guess hoping he gets shanked in prison is cheaper.

This guy doesn’t have a hope in hell of surviving in prison.

In prison, he'll probably experience the kind of pain that he inflicted on his victims, for the rest of his life.

For whatever reason, the prison population often takes vigilante justice on child sex offenders. There are some crimes people just dont tolerate.

I happen to be related to a child molester who got badly beat up in prison.

Parole.

If you have 175 years of sentences, you aren't likely eligible for parole until you are dead.

Indeed. "Diddlers" usually end up dead and often mutilated within the first little while in jail. Especially if they targeted prepubescent children. When rapists, thieves and murderers take offense to one's actions, you know they done fucked up bad.

He's lived his life. Doubt he cares.

Someone better knock is glasses off, break them, and shank his ass.

Hes a shitbag and had it coming. But whats funny is how he went out. If i knew i was going to be sentenced to 175 years (and thats my plea deal) i whould have told those girls thanks for the pussy and mooned the judge.

Let's also not forget about the prospect of prison rape. Which he'd likely become a target of.

@tryit: You have no idea. They will make his life unbearable.... I dont expect him to survive long.