Shawshank Redemption has got to be the most overrated movie ever.

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#1 BlueTimber
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Ever. It is so freaking overrated. The plot? Not much depth to it. The performances? The plot doesn't give anyone a chance to do anything memorable cept take a shower in the rain.

So..over...rated.

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#2 TalesofRaGnArOk
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When I saw it all I heard about it was that it was a "great movie". Not awsome, not the best movie.

You have to admit it was good though, wasnt it? Its one of the better ones Ive seen

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"Salvation lies within".....the trowel inside the bible.....coolest scene in a movie ever..
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Ever. It is so freaking overrated. The plot? Not much depth to it. The performances? The plot doesn't give anyone a chance to do anything memorable cept take a shower in the rain.

So..over...rated.

BlueTimber

Well with the Pulitzer caliber writing in that argument, I know my mind is changed!

/sarcasm

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#5 kylekatarn10
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I've never seen it. I've heard good things though.
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#6 JiveT
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Its above average and for a certain generation probably a minor classic.

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#7 ElZilcho90
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Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it "over-rated".
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#8 -_-CLF-_-Flakey
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Am i the only one thats never heard of this? :[
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#9 Shrapnel99
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I think it's a great movie :)
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#10 Shrapnel99
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Am i the only one thats never heard of this? :[-_-CLF-_-Flakey

:| *leaves thread*

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I thought it was pretty good.
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#12 GameFreak315
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Really? It's one of my favorites...oh well. :P
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#13 krazykillaz
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The Shawshank Redemption was amazing. When I first saw it, I wasn't expecting much, but I was very pleasantly surprised. It's one of those movies that I don't get sick of. I must've seen it like 10 times.
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#14 -_-CLF-_-Flakey
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[QUOTE="-_-CLF-_-Flakey"]Am i the only one thats never heard of this? :[Shrapnel99

:| *leaves thread*

lol sorry?

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#15 SpootyHead
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It's not over-rated. It is well done. Not the best movie ever, but it was pretty good.
Forest Gump... now that is overrated.
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#16 BlueTimber
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Forrest Gump was not overrated.

Shawshank is good in the sense that it didn't suck.

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#17 BlueTimber
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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

Ever. It is so freaking overrated. The plot? Not much depth to it. The performances? The plot doesn't give anyone a chance to do anything memorable cept take a shower in the rain.

So..over...rated.

Yagami-Iori

Well with the Pulitzer caliber writing in that argument, I know my mind is changed!

/sarcasm

Oh boy, I'm glad I wasted 5 seconds reading your post. How insightful!!

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#18 BlueTimber
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Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it "over-rated".ElZilcho90

By your logic, no one should ever say anything is anything.

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[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"]Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it "over-rated".BlueTimber

By your logic, no one should ever say anything is anything.

By your original logic, anyone who disagrees with you is a dolt and your opinion is the only one that matters.:|

You personally don't like it? Then just say you don't like it. More than enough people like it for it to not be "over-rated".

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#20 BlueTimber
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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"]Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it "over-rated".ElZilcho90

By your logic, no one should ever say anything is anything.

By your original logic, anyone who disagrees with you is a dolt and your opinion is the only one that matters.:|

You personally don't like it? Then just say you don't like it. More than enough people like it for it to not be "over-rated".

My logic? What logic? I never presented any logic. I game my opinion on the movie, hoping others would give theirs.

But you? Yes, it's MY OPINION that the movie is overrated. I never stated otherwise. Are you too dense to see that? Should I not say something taste good becuase someone else may not like it? Or that something is ugly because someone else may say othereise?

You're making it seem like no one should state their opinion unless the entire world is unanimous in agreement. The movie is overrated.

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#21 ElZilcho90
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Arguing with you will obviously get me nowhere. Your opinion is your own. I, frankly, don't care.
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#22 EboyLOL
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I highly disagree with your criticisms of it.

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#23 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Its above average and for a certain generation probably a minor classic.

JiveT

Its considered one of the best movies of all time, I think its kind of a understatement to say its a "minor classic".

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#24 trickmyster13
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That is a nice try, you are obviously trolling. You are probably the kind of kid that thinks "Date Movie" is an all time classic.
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#25 Galzakian
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Never actually seen it, although i've heard great things about it.
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#26 BlueTimber
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You guys who liked it. WHAT did you like about it? Surely you can extend your thoughts on the movie past a sentence or two.
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#27 BlueTimber
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That is a nice try, you are obviously trolling. You are probably the kind of kid that thinks "Date Movie" is an all time classic.trickmyster13

Date Movie was horrible, as expected, but my friends wanted to see it. No, I'm not trolling. It is possible to have a disenting opinion on something, and not do so for the sake of trolling. You don't like the subject matter of the thread? Simple, put forth some effort and don't click the thread.

It's hard, but with enough determination you can do it. I may sound rude, but you sound like an idiot.

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The most over rated movie is easily Forrest Gump. I feel like I'm the only one crusading against this movie.
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#29 GameFreak315
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The most over rated movie is easily Forrest Gump. I feel like I'm the only one crusading against this movie.quiglythegreat

I love Forrest Gump. ^_^ But it shouldn't have won Best Picture that year...either Pulp Fiction or The Shawshank Redemption (the latter, in my opinion) easily should have taken it...but of course, the Academy would take the safe route, wouldn't they? :x

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Dude, I am just the opposite. Love Forrest Gump, felt "eh" after Shawshank redemption. It just didn't have anything. It lacked. There was no emotion to it. It was so reserved. All the characters so reserved. Everyone so calm.
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Am I the only one who thinks Forrest Gump was an amazing movie. I mean it actually taught me alot about the past. Or maybe the reason people hate it is because they lived through everything that happened in the movie and they realize they're getting old. :P
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#32 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]The most over rated movie is easily Forrest Gump. I feel like I'm the only one crusading against this movie.GameFreak315

I love Forrest Gump. ^_^ But it shouldn't have won Best Picture that year...either Pulp Fiction or The Shawshank Redemption (the latter, in my opinion) easily should have taken it...but of course, the Academy would take the safe route, wouldn't they? :x

I think they were all fantastic movies that if possible to give them all best pictures I would.

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Am I the only one who thinks Forrest Gump was an amazing movie. I mean it actually taught me alot about the past. Or maybe the reason people hate it is because they lived through everything that happened in the movie and they realize they're getting old. :Pshaza91
Yes... you are in fact THE only person who likes Forrest Gump.
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#34 GameFreak315
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Dude, I am just the opposite. Love Forrest Gump, felt "eh" after Shawshank redemption. It just didn't have anything. It lacked. There was no emotion to it. It was so reserved. All the characters so reserved. Everyone so calm.BlueTimber

Well, that's part of the setting. Most of them have been in the prison for a long, long time...and there's no use in being anything but calm. The most interesting parts are when they actually describe the anxiety of leaving prison, where they've grown dependent on the place they've know for so long and are scared to death to go back into the real world and face the changes that await them.

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Am I the only one who thinks Forrest Gump was an amazing movie. I mean it actually taught me alot about the past. Or maybe the reason people hate it is because they lived through everything that happened in the movie and they realize they're getting old. :Pshaza91
What, it taught you that the 1970s can easily be characterized by a bunch of people doing coke in a dance club as they bob their heads to Saturday Night Fever? That movie tried to be a 'time piece' and just came up as a contrived series of generalizations. The overall message is depressing if it's thought about at all. The movie isn't necessarily overtly stupid, it's just not intellectual at all. It's not something that you walk out of saying 'hey, I think I have a lot to think about' like most good movies are, because it crams everything down your throat. 'Things in this time were this way, things in this place were this way. Politics and war are bad, but life is good, and even if you don't have legs and have alcoholism, you can be happy if you just ignore enough stuff.' The movie tries very hard to be upbeat. But from what I can tell of it, it only says to just block out all the bad things. It doesn't encourage anything but ignorance, denial. The shots in the movie aren't even that good. It just doesn't have anything compelling for me.
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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]Dude, I am just the opposite. Love Forrest Gump, felt "eh" after Shawshank redemption. It just didn't have anything. It lacked. There was no emotion to it. It was so reserved. All the characters so reserved. Everyone so calm.GameFreak315

Well, that's part of the setting. Most of them have been in the prison for a long, long time...and there's no use in being anything but calm. The most interesting parts are when they actually describe the anxiety of leaving prison, where they've grown dependent on the place they've know for so long and are scared to death to go back into the real world and face the changes that await them.

Because the characters were reserved, and therefore the movie reserved and everyone just acted "eh", I left feelihg "eh". In actions movies, when there is plenty of *** kicking going on, I leave pumped. With comedies that are actually funny, I leave happy.

With drama's that actually create a sense of drama, I think about the movie and the characters, but the movie didn't give me any of that. It gave me nothing to leave with.

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[QUOTE="shaza91"]Am I the only one who thinks Forrest Gump was an amazing movie. I mean it actually taught me alot about the past. Or maybe the reason people hate it is because they lived through everything that happened in the movie and they realize they're getting old. :Pquiglythegreat
What, it taught you that the 1970s can easily be characterized by a bunch of people doing coke in a dance club as they bob their heads to Saturday Night Fever? That movie tried to be a 'time piece' and just came up as a contrived series of generalizations. The overall message is depressing if it's thought about at all. The movie isn't necessarily overtly stupid, it's just not intellectual at all. It's not something that you walk out of saying 'hey, I think I have a lot to think about' like most good movies are, because it crams everything down your throat. 'Things in this time were this way, things in this place were this way. Politics and war are bad, but life is good, and even if you don't have legs and have alcoholism, you can be happy if you just ignore enough stuff.' The movie tries very hard to be upbeat. But from what I can tell of it, it only says to just block out all the bad things. It doesn't encourage anything but ignorance, denial. The shots in the movie aren't even that good. It just doesn't have anything compelling for me.

That scene in the movie lasted, oh what, all of about 20 seconds? It wasn't trying to be a "time Piece". Yea, forrest gump actually was involved in all those events. No, it is telling the story of a guy. A twist on history and how he is related, but the entire time, it's HIS story.

You see what led to what. Running led to, which led to, which led to, which led to, which led to. The story of his life. And it's funny, and sad, and inspirational, all the way through it. Tons of chracters actually, get this, SHOWING EMOTION!!!

It's not a history movie. It's a story about a guy. And yeesh, you sound like quite the pessimist. Yea, the sum of the movie is upbeat, but is there a problem with that? Does a movie have to be one depressing blow, one after another after another, eventually ending in everyone emo and depressed?

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The thing I like about Shawshank is that in taking this journey with the main character, you see a man get beat down, mentally and physically. At the end of the film, you are convinced that the guy is probably just going to hang himself and end his misery. When the intricacies of the plot are revealed, however, what you learn is that he never EVER gave up trying to find a way out of there. Maybe I'm not so cynical as a lot of other people, but that makes me feel good. The movie is about shouldering your burdens with dignity and having faith in your ability to persevere against adversity - even when it seems impossible or futile.

And I like Forest Gump when it first came out, but after I watched it a few times, I got pretty sick of it. It's a pretty sappy movie.

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Ever. It is so freaking overrated. The plot? Not much depth to it. The performances? The plot doesn't give anyone a chance to do anything memorable cept take a shower in the rain.

So..over...rated.

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It's a "Stephen King Movie". Of course it's overrated.

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#40 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

Ever. It is so freaking overrated. The plot? Not much depth to it. The performances? The plot doesn't give anyone a chance to do anything memorable cept take a shower in the rain.

So..over...rated.

MrGeezer

It's a "Stephen King Movie". Of course it's overrated.

Watch he is gonna make another thread soon claiming The Godfather is overrated :P

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="shaza91"]Am I the only one who thinks Forrest Gump was an amazing movie. I mean it actually taught me alot about the past. Or maybe the reason people hate it is because they lived through everything that happened in the movie and they realize they're getting old. :PBlueTimber

What, it taught you that the 1970s can easily be characterized by a bunch of people doing coke in a dance club as they bob their heads to Saturday Night Fever? That movie tried to be a 'time piece' and just came up as a contrived series of generalizations. The overall message is depressing if it's thought about at all. The movie isn't necessarily overtly stupid, it's just not intellectual at all. It's not something that you walk out of saying 'hey, I think I have a lot to think about' like most good movies are, because it crams everything down your throat. 'Things in this time were this way, things in this place were this way. Politics and war are bad, but life is good, and even if you don't have legs and have alcoholism, you can be happy if you just ignore enough stuff.' The movie tries very hard to be upbeat. But from what I can tell of it, it only says to just block out all the bad things. It doesn't encourage anything but ignorance, denial. The shots in the movie aren't even that good. It just doesn't have anything compelling for me.

That scene in the movie lasted, oh what, all of about 20 seconds? It wasn't trying to be a "time Piece". Yea, forrest gump actually was involved in all those events. No, it is telling the story of a guy. A twist on history and how he is related, but the entire time, it's HIS story.

You see what led to what. Running led to, which led to, which led to, which led to, which led to. The story of his life. And it's funny, and sad, and inspirational, all the way through it. Tons of chracters actually, get this, SHOWING EMOTION!!!

It's not a history movie. It's a story about a guy.

Do you know any guys like that? Have you ever heard of any guys like that? I can't say that Forrest Gump sounds terribly realistic to me. And it definitely seemed to be trying to be a time piece. It added that business about segregation, about Vietnam (multiple scenes for that) and about the advent of Apple (product placement IN THE PLOT LINE). None of that was necessary for the plot. They were peripherals, but they were trying to say what those eras were like. So what if there's emotion? That makes NO DIFFERENCE. One of the greatest movies of all time is 2001: A Space Oddyssey and that movie uses lack of emotion to very powerful effect. Forrest Gump takes lots and lots of emotion and does nothing with it. The movie is event-driven. The events are based largely on general history. There is no distinct tone and if there is one, it is catalyzed by the events, rather than the events setting an overall tone, though the movie somehow still has the stupidity to ask us to feel optimistic in the end for some reason because of a feather and some monotone monolog.
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I think it's a great movie :)Shrapnel99

Dude, it makes murderers and rapists and thieves look like nice swell people.

It's worse than bad, it's just stupid. Really, if I ever get sent to prison, THAT'S the prison that I want to go to. Hell, everyone's your friend, everyone's awesome, and there's only one dude in the whole prison who wants to rape you.

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The thing I like about Shawshank is that in taking this journey with the main character, you see a man get beat down, mentally and physically. At the end of the film, you are convinced that the guy is probably just going to hang himself and end his misery. When the intricacies of the plot are revealed, however, what you learn is that he never EVER gave up trying to find a way out of there. Maybe I'm not so cynical as a lot of other people, but that makes me feel good. The movie is about shouldering your burdens with dignity and having faith in your ability to persevere against adversity - even when it seems impossible or futile.

And I like Forest Gump when it first came out, but after I watched it a few times, I got pretty sick of it. It's a pretty sappy movie.

CheddarLimbo

Eh, yea, true. But I'd have liked to see the character show something. It was like, nothing, nothing, nothing, and then bam, at the end there is suddenly this flood of information. Like everything else was just drawn out filler, and towards the end, that's when things that TRUELY mattered happened. I mean yea, like you said he was beaten in every manner possible, but he sure didn't show it. He didn't react. Stuff happened and he left out of it like they hadn't.

I don't want him to say how he feels, but react in an appropraite to [spoiler] Getting raped up the freaking butt, and finding out where the person who is really responsible for your incarceration is. I mean, it was like a sugar rush. Huge reaction to finding this out, which just tapered down until he eventually crashed and that didn't matter. [/spoiler]

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#44 LJS9502_basic
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It was alright.....the most overrated is Forest Gump IMO.
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The thing I like about Shawshank is that in taking this journey with the main character, you see a man get beat down, mentally and physically. At the end of the film, you are convinced that the guy is probably just going to hang himself and end his misery. When the intricacies of the plot are revealed, however, what you learn is that he never EVER gave up trying to find a way out of there. Maybe I'm not so cynical as a lot of other people, but that makes me feel good. The movie is about shouldering your burdens with dignity and having faith in your ability to persevere against adversity - even when it seems impossible or futile.

And I like Forest Gump when it first came out, but after I watched it a few times, I got pretty sick of it. It's a pretty sappy movie.

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Yeah, but they sort of took the chicken**** way out by making him actually innocent. You wouldn't be singing thew same tune if he actually was a serial rapist.

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#46 MrGeezer
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It was alright.....the most overrated is Forest Gump IMO. LJS9502_basic

The book was even worse. It's been a long time since I read it, but I seem to recall Forrest Gump going into space, and having a space-gorilla accidentally poop on his face.

The book actually offended me. It honestly felt like the book's whole point was to get Forrest Gump into stupid situations so that we could kaugh at the fact that he's retarded. Reading that book just plain made me feel dirty.

Then again, I was only like, 8 when I read it, so maybe it just went over my head.

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Am i the only one thats never heard of this? :[-_-CLF-_-Flakey
Nope
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#48 BlueTimber
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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="shaza91"]Am I the only one who thinks Forrest Gump was an amazing movie. I mean it actually taught me alot about the past. Or maybe the reason people hate it is because they lived through everything that happened in the movie and they realize they're getting old. :Pquiglythegreat

What, it taught you that the 1970s can easily be characterized by a bunch of people doing coke in a dance club as they bob their heads to Saturday Night Fever? That movie tried to be a 'time piece' and just came up as a contrived series of generalizations. The overall message is depressing if it's thought about at all. The movie isn't necessarily overtly stupid, it's just not intellectual at all. It's not something that you walk out of saying 'hey, I think I have a lot to think about' like most good movies are, because it crams everything down your throat. 'Things in this time were this way, things in this place were this way. Politics and war are bad, but life is good, and even if you don't have legs and have alcoholism, you can be happy if you just ignore enough stuff.' The movie tries very hard to be upbeat. But from what I can tell of it, it only says to just block out all the bad things. It doesn't encourage anything but ignorance, denial. The shots in the movie aren't even that good. It just doesn't have anything compelling for me.

That scene in the movie lasted, oh what, all of about 20 seconds? It wasn't trying to be a "time Piece". Yea, forrest gump actually was involved in all those events. No, it is telling the story of a guy. A twist on history and how he is related, but the entire time, it's HIS story.

You see what led to what. Running led to, which led to, which led to, which led to, which led to. The story of his life. And it's funny, and sad, and inspirational, all the way through it. Tons of chracters actually, get this, SHOWING EMOTION!!!

It's not a history movie. It's a story about a guy.

Do you know any guys like that? Have you ever heard of any guys like that? I can't say that Forrest Gump sounds terribly realistic to me. And it definitely seemed to be trying to be a time piece. It added that business about segregation, about Vietnam (multiple scenes for that) and about the advent of Apple (product placement IN THE PLOT LINE). None of that was necessary for the plot. They were peripherals, but they were trying to say what those eras were like. So what if there's emotion? That makes NO DIFFERENCE. One of the greatest movies of all time is 2001: A Space Oddyssey and that movie uses lack of emotion to very powerful effect. Forrest Gump takes lots and lots of emotion and does nothing with it. The movie is event-driven. The events are based largely on general history. There is no distinct tone and if there is one, it is catalyzed by the events, rather than the events setting an overall tone, though the movie somehow still has the stupidity to ask us to feel optimistic in the end for some reason because of a feather and some monotone monolog.

Do I know any people who were taught to look on the bright side of things? Who were taught when someone dies, you shouldn't spiral down into a never ending depression, never moving on? That when a business venture isn't going so good you should just say screw it, and give up?

No, I only know people who look forever on the negative side of things. Emo kids who have nothing to do but write crap poetry about how crappy their life is. And yes, it did have events relating to history, but that wasn't the focus, especially considering that it was all fake. It was history with a twist, but the point was showing off the character. Giving him some dimension, showing off that blissful ignorance as he told the pres he had to take a piss, and showed another his ass.

And no distinct tone? Good. It's complex. Why does every movie had to be completely flat and one-dimensional? You can come out of the movie with a multitude of opinions on it.

And dude, YES, history is a part of the movie, but it isn't the central part. It's a guy, sitting on a bench, telling people HIS STORY. The story of Forrest Gump. All the events it gives out, are never opinionated. They just present the events, and leave it at that.

Blood Diamond. That was an opinionated movie. The movie didn't give its opinions on the vietnam war. Or on Nixon. Or anything like that, it just presented a couple of history events, all for the sake of explaining Forrest Gumps life. Because the movie is a time line of his life. Not of history. And he lives on the planet earth, as it is, and yes **** does happen.

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You have '300' in your sig, and your calling this movie overrated? ROFL. I'm dying over here...:lol:
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You have '300' in your sig, and your calling this movie overrated? ROFL. I'm dying over here...:lol:butteater86

"LOL"

That's what you get when you make assumptions...you end up looking like a jackass.

It is very well known in off-topic that I hated 300, and think that the movie is total crap.

I mean, you think that you know anything about me and my artistic tastes just by seeing a picture that I posted on the internet? What does that say about YOU?