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#1 Drakes_Fortune
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IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

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IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

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a) "Choosing to be gay Lulz b) Why not ask kids if they'd rather be raised in an orphanage or by a same-sex couple.
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#3 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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Ignorance is strong in this thread
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#4 super_mario_128
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'Choosing to be gay'. Oh dear Lord, shoot me, someone.
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By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.Drakes_Fortune
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#6 Penguinchow
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I think the lack of either a female (or male depending on the case) influence would be detrimental to the childs raising. Therefore, no.
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#7 deactivated-5a79221380856
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I think that opposite-sex couples should be given first priority, but otherwise, I'm fine with it.
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#8 Bourbons3
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Yes they should. Same-sex parents are no worse at raising children than straight couples. As for bullying, that's going to happen anyway. Would you suggest red-headed people be banned from having children, because their red-headed children are bullied? Kids can be very nasty pieces of work, and they'll bully other kids for anything they can think of. That's not a good reason for taking away the right to adopt children.
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#9 Trinners
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All research indicates that children under same-sex couples are not disadvantaged in any way at all whatsoever.

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[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]

IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

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a) "Choosing to be gay Lulz b) Why not ask kids if they'd rather be raised in an orphanage or by a same-sex couple.

you don't choose to be gay it's instinct too...you know anways i could care less if a same sex couple decide to raise a kid

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#11 Serraph105
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IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

Drakes_Fortune
statistics and studies show that you are very wrong. Also you don't choose to be gay
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#12 Big_Bad_Sad
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Yes they should. Can we stop with these topics for one night?
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Yes they should be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67v7wParas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICtW8b7rek

http://www.youtube.com/user/depfox#p/u/73/Vdc6lq1D24w

1. Being raised by gay people doesnt make you gay If that were true heterosexual couples would never have homosexual children.

2. The fact that the adopted kids may be made fun of at school shows that the others are not mature enough or not educated enough to be accepting

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[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]

IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

xaos

a) "Choosing to be gay Lulz b) Why not ask kids if they'd rather be raised in an orphanage or by a same-sex couple.

^^this

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IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. Drakes_Fortune

The same argument was made for segregation to protect the kids from folks who wouldn't like the races mixing. It was garbage then too.

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IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

Drakes_Fortune

First of all, you're not gay Your opinion on it being a choice is poorly formulated, at best. Second of all, it's not a choice. Any homosexual will tell you that. It's not one big lie that we're all in on. Thirdly, the ignorant and bigoted majority should have no say on whether or not I can have a child. Especially not when I'd be a better parent than most of them.

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#18 cyberdarkkid
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So today's theme for OT is homosexuality eh.
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#19 turtlethetaffer
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I kinda agree that by choosing to be gay you give up on having children... but, if they want a kid and there is one available (that sounds so cold, I know), they should be able to.

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#20 Teenaged
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I kinda agree that by choosing to be gay you give up on having children... but, if they want a kid and there is one available (that sounds so cold, I know), they should be able to.

turtlethetaffer

Here's the thing. Homosexuals dont choose to be gay.

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1) People don't choose to be gay

2) Even if they did, so what. A gay couple produces a gay child. What's the harm done? The only disadvantage the child would be at would be at the hands of people who put them down.

3)You know what, nevermind all that. You know what's more detrimental than having a same sex couple as parents? Having no parents and growing up in an orphanage.

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I think the lack of either a female (or male depending on the case) influence would be detrimental to the childs raising. Therefore, no.Penguinchow
Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?
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#23 GrandJury
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Yes they should. What is up with all of the gay people threads lately? If they are two loving people there is no problem at all.
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So today's theme for OT is homosexuality eh.cyberdarkkid
I sense the annoyed and bitter undertones between the print, homophobe! :x
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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I think the lack of either a female (or male depending on the case) influence would be detrimental to the childs raising. Therefore, no.dsmccracken
Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?

Presumably, children should also be removed from single-parent households; sorry widows and widowers!
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#26 Kamekazi_69
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Well Serraph beat me to it, but to emphasis what he said. You are very incorrect. There is data leading that its not a choice. You almost got us there. 2nd YES, Same sex couples should and have the right to adopt a child. I dont knowif anyone heard of this, but there has been study thatconcluded a child raised by heterosexual couples might be at risk of more social/psychologicalproblems than a child raised in a same sex house hold.

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IMO, NO. At least for now. I think it would be very bad for the kids chidhood. They suffer a lot when they are still kids cause of that, and cause they are kids they cant handle it. That will perturbe them a lot. And thers really no need for that. By choosing to be gay IMO you gave up on something like having a kid.

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What's up with all the newbies making poorly thought out, opinionated topics on gay marriage today?
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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I think the lack of either a female (or male depending on the case) influence would be detrimental to the childs raising. Therefore, no.dsmccracken
Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?

I was merely pointing out that the lack of an influence from both sexes in the raising of a child almost always proves to be derogatory to the childs rearing. If there is not a hetero-sexual couple willing to take the child, I agree that the child would be better off with a gay couple than in an orphanage, but that is rarely the case.
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#29 Pinkyimp
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There are Homosexual parents that handle children better than hetrosexual children in some cases and sometimes its the other way around..

So yes, they are more than fine at handling babies/children, Sexual orientation has nothing to do with this..

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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]So today's theme for OT is homosexuality eh.super_mario_128
I sense the annoyed and bitter undertones between the print, homophobe! :x

No U!...oh wait :P
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I think the lack of either a female (or male depending on the case) influence would be detrimental to the childs raising. Therefore, no.xaos
Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?

Presumably, children should also be removed from single-parent households; sorry widows and widowers!

That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I think the lack of either a female (or male depending on the case) influence would be detrimental to the childs raising. Therefore, no.Penguinchow
Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?

I was merely pointing out that the lack of an influence from both sexes in the raising of a child almost always proves to be derogatory to the childs rearing. If there is not a hetero-sexual couple willing to take the child, I agree that the child would be better off with a gay couple than in an orphanage, but that is rarely the case.

What about one parent families?

Isnt there also a lack of the influence of one sex? :|

Should we not allow them to have kids?

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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?

Presumably, children should also be removed from single-parent households; sorry widows and widowers!

That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?

I, like you, am not in a position to say. I am comfortable asserting that a child raised by a same-sex couple is better off than one raised institutionally, negating your "therefore, no" conclusion above.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?Penguinchow
Presumably, children should also be removed from single-parent households; sorry widows and widowers!

That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?

But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Your point assumes that there is always the choice to have a female and male raise the kid instead of the gay couple. If the kid is in an orphanage, there is NEITHER... is that preferable?Teenaged

I was merely pointing out that the lack of an influence from both sexes in the raising of a child almost always proves to be derogatory to the childs rearing. If there is not a hetero-sexual couple willing to take the child, I agree that the child would be better off with a gay couple than in an orphanage, but that is rarely the case.

What about one parent families?

Isnt there also a lack of the influence of one sex? :|

Should we not allow them to have kids?

I did not say that dang it. I said that it would be preferable for the child to be raised with both a father and mother if possible. Surely you can see the sense in that?
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I think that opposite-sex couples should be given first priority, but otherwise, I'm fine with it.Genetic_Code
Yup, i will go with this one. I am just going to ignore the first comment because of the ignorance
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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="xaos"] Presumably, children should also be removed from single-parent households; sorry widows and widowers!Teenaged

That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?

But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.
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Stop. The. Gay Marriage. Topics. FOREVER!!!

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?Penguinchow

But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.

So orphanages have suddenly been emptied and people no longer foster kids? Huh, I wonder when this happened
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Stop. The. Gay Marriage. Topics. FOREVER!!!

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?Penguinchow

But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.

As far as I know, people who are not a couple with someone ARE allowed to adopt. Therefore in single parents sometimes there is a choice.

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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

Teenaged

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.

As far as I know, people who are not a couple with someone ARE allowed to adopt. Therefore in single parents sometimes there is a choice.

That's not what I'm talking about. I don't think that single parents should adopt either. It is my OPINION that the raising of a child should be done by a man and woman. When I said that sometimes there was no choice regarding single parents I was talking about death or divorce taking one of the parents away.
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] That is not what I said at all. So you're saying that a child that is raised entirely by his father has lost nothing compared to a situation where he is raised by both father and mother?Penguinchow

But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.

So why do we have orphanages, if there are all these straight couples willing to adopt?
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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

xaos

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.

So orphanages have suddenly been emptied and people no longer foster kids? Huh, I wonder when this happened

I'm only saying that heterosexual couples should be given priority

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And still we see that everyone is perfectly fine with a single person adopting, and YET! So many people have a problem with homosexual people adopting based on the pseudo-argument that there is lack of the influence of both genders. Which is the case for single parents as well.

So we can conclude that the single parents issue shows that the inhibitions have nothing to do with those arguments and instead lets admit that its just about some people not being able to cope with a family model they are not used to.

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And still we see that everyone is perfectly fine with a single person adopting, and YET! So many people have a problem with homosexual people adopting based on the pseudo-argument that there is lack of the influence of both genders. Which is the case for single parents as well.

So we can conclude that the single parents issue shows that the inhibitions have nothing to do with those arguments and instead lets admit that its just about some people not being able to cope with a family model they are not used to.

Teenaged
If you notice in my above post I mentioned that I don't think single parents should adopt either. This isn't just about prejudice for me, I honestly think that a family model lacking one gender is not a good environment to raise a child in.
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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]But I dont see you advocating not allowing single parents to have children.

Double standard?

Bourbons3

With single parents sometimes there's not a choice. In the case of homosexuals adopting there is almost always a willing heterosexual couple that would take the child.

So why do we have orphanages, if there are all these straight couples willing to adopt?

thats where straight couples go to pick them out

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And still we see that everyone is perfectly fine with a single person adopting, and YET! So many people have a problem with homosexual people adopting based on the pseudo-argument that there is lack of the influence of both genders. Which is the case for single parents as well.

So we can conclude that the single parents issue shows that the inhibitions have nothing to do with those arguments and instead lets admit that its just about some people not being able to cope with a family model they are not used to.

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If you notice in my above post I mentioned that I don't think single parents should adopt either. This isn't just about prejudice for me, I honestly think that a family model lacking one gender is not a good environment to raise a child in.

This wasnt referring to you. Thats why I made it separately.