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What's the difference? Does Gay blood not work equally well in a blood transfusion?Fightingfan"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination."
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]What's the difference? Does Gay blood not work equally well in a blood transfusion?Suzy_Q_Kazoo"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination." That's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals.
um wow.........I haven't used this in quite some time
Serraph105
sorry but there isnt enough facepalms in there
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]What's the difference? Does Gay blood not work equally well in a blood transfusion?Fightingfan"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination." That's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. I know, but I'm not the one who restricted that!
I'm not allowed to donate blood in Australia 'coz I lived in the UK when mad cow disease broke out. They're a worrisome lot over here - as you can see by my avi I'm a perfectly healthy cow.
Anyway, should gays be allowed to give blood? There are numerous cheeky comments to be made here that'll only see my level take a tumble, so I'll refrain and give an utterly mundane: yes.
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
um wow.........I haven't used this in quite some time
spawnassasin
sorry but there isnt enough facepalms in there
lol well given who it is in the picture I blame OT
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination."Suzy_Q_KazooThat's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. I know, but I'm not the one who restricted that! i think they missed the qoutation marks, Dont worry suzy in issues like these people always try to pin the bad of the topic on some1 so it seems like their a good person
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]What's the difference? Does Gay blood not work equally well in a blood transfusion?Fightingfan"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination." That's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. while totally discriminative,it still reduces the chance of contamination.
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]What's the difference? Does Gay blood not work equally well in a blood transfusion?Fightingfan"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination." That's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. A few years back, I honestly had to look up whether or not homosexual relations could "create" HIV instead of just spreading it, because of the stigma associated with it. I honestly couldn't understand why it would be such a big issue otherwise. I understand that the risk of spreading the disease if one party is infected is higher than normal, but still... it's an exaggerated association.
.... By the Lords , it's not as though they have any disease or something ( Seriously , it's not as though HIV is limited to them ) . Their gonna kill off more people at this rate if they bar these people from donating blood - blood reserves are low as it is and now their going to lower the amount of blood variety in the reserves?
That's worse than stupid - it's.... stupid x2.
The ban on g@y blood donation is to be lifted in the Uk. brendanhunt1Great!
But only if they haven't had sex within 12 monthsbrendanhunt1...ah. Getting there.
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination."VaguelyTaggedThat's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. while totally discriminative,it still reduces the chance of contamination.Why have that policy only for gay people though?
If the problem is the stereotypically attributed promiscuity then why not do the same for promiscuous heterosexuals?
While we're at it, let's only allow people who are married to donate blood, just so that we're sure we've "covered" all stereotypes. >__>
I find it funny how 9 people voted "No," however there is not one comment from someone who is against it. I guess the gay bashers" are to cowardly to comment.
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination."FightingfanThat's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. It started getting attention when in the homosexual community and gay sex between men does have a higher chance of infection.
Seriously. We can test for HIV now. There's nothing to be scared of. XilePrincessDid you read the article?
The National Blood Service screens all donations for HIV and other infections. However, there is a "window period" after infection during which it is impossible to detect the virus.BBC
while totally discriminative,it still reduces the chance of contamination.Why have that policy only for gay people though?[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] That's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals.Teenaged
If the problem is the stereotypically attributed promiscuity then why not do the same for promiscuous heterosexuals?
While we're at it, let's only allow people who are married to donate blood, just so that we're sure we've "covered" all stereotypes. >__>
that could work as well,i'm not saying g@ys are necessarily promiscuous,or that the rules shouldn't have covered heterosexuals,my point is that taking away any part of the donating society automatically reduces the chance of contamination,it's a simple equation.in fact it would've solve the whole problem if they'd banned blood donation entirely.it's so stupid because it's like erasing the question without finding it any solution.i think you misunderstood me.I think gays should be allowed to donate but if they don't want my blood then fine they can't have it, it's not worth complaining about.
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Why have that policy only for gay people though?[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"] while totally discriminative,it still reduces the chance of contamination.VaguelyTagged
If the problem is the stereotypically attributed promiscuity then why not do the same for promiscuous heterosexuals?
While we're at it, let's only allow people who are married to donate blood, just so that we're sure we've "covered" all stereotypes. >__>
that could work as well,i'm not saying g@ys are necessarily promiscuous,or that the rules shouldn't have covered heterosexuals,my point is that taking away any part of the donating society automatically reduces the chance of contamination,it's a simple equation.in fact it would've solve the whole problem if they'd banned blood donation entirely.it's so stupid because it's like erasing the question without finding it any solution.i think you misunderstood me.Yeah I did because what you are saying is obvious; in fact too obvious. It's like saying that crime in human societies would cease if humanity went extinct.that could work as well,i'm not saying g@ys are necessarily promiscuous,or that the rules shouldn't have covered heterosexuals,my point is that taking away any part of the donating society automatically reduces the chance of contamination,it's a simple equation.in fact it would've solve the whole problem if they'd banned blood donation entirely.it's so stupid because it's like erasing the question without finding it any solution.i think you misunderstood me.Yeah I did because what you are saying is obvious; in fact too obvious. It's like saying that crime in human societies would cease if humanity went extinct. yeah,that's the only logic i could think of,when i read the OP,so simple yet so stupid.[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Why have that policy only for gay people though?
If the problem is the stereotypically attributed promiscuity then why not do the same for promiscuous heterosexuals?
While we're at it, let's only allow people who are married to donate blood, just so that we're sure we've "covered" all stereotypes. >__>
Teenaged
Dependent on whether or not there is any noticeable increase in HIV between gay men and straight men.Overlord93There is, but the increase in risk to the person recieving the transfusion is so negligible that if the ban were lifted, thousands of lives would be saved for every extra HIV infection that slipped through the net.
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]What's the difference? Does Gay blood not work equally well in a blood transfusion?Fightingfan"The restrictions were put in place in the 1980s to prevent the risk of HIV contamination." That's funny because HIV isn't exclusive to homosexuals. HIV transmission was significantyl high in homosexual males in the 80's and 90's given the type of intercourse used. Many blood banks also had rules against allowing IV drug users to donate blood as their relative risk was also much higher. High risk groups were exlcuded. Since the AIDS epidemic, the gay male community has taken huge measures to cut the risk of transmission - employing better safe sex measures, etc. Howevever, their risk of transmission is still higher than other forms of intercourse.
If the clinics are unwilling to let homosexuals donate, it makes me think they aren't testing all the blood, due to them excluding a "higher risk" group for the sake of convenience (which of course is based on an unfounded 1980's stereotype that all gays are promiscuous and diseased). If they are in fact testing all the blood, then what is the problem with letting them donate? They ask if I've been in contact with monkeys or monkey fluids in the past 6 months... but they would test for that anyways... so why ask?foxhound_foxAs the article leads us to believe:
However it was introduced when tests were less effective.The National Blood Service screens all donations for HIV and other infections. However, there is a "window period" after infection during which it is impossible to detect the virus.
BBC Article
If the clinics are unwilling to let homosexuals donate, it makes me think they aren't testing all the blood, due to them excluding a "higher risk" group for the sake of convenience (which of course is based on an unfounded 1980's stereotype that all gays are promiscuous and diseased). If they are in fact testing all the blood, then what is the problem with letting them donate? They ask if I've been in contact with monkeys or monkey fluids in the past 6 months... but they would test for that anyways... so why ask?foxhound_foxMen who had sex with men was a significantly higher risk group for HIV infection in the 80's and 90's. That was not unfounded. Your risk of contracting HIV is signficantly higher with certain types of intercourse. Two of the highest risk groups in the 80's and 90's were gay men and IV drug users. They were affected disproportionately. Certainly the idea that all gay men are promiscuos is unfounded, but gay men were a higher risk group. This was proven in the medical literature. It doesnt mean that being gay is bad or anything along those lines, just that male on male intercourse carries a much higher risk of transmission of HIV. Male to female intercourse carries around a 1 in 1000 risk per episode. Male to male intercourse is about 7 to 10 times more likely to trasmit HIV per episode of unprotected sex. The ability to test for HIV has improved over the last 20 years. We still currently test for the antibody to HIV as opposed to HIV itself. Most people will develop antibodies within about 3-4 wks of infection, however, there is a small percentage that will have HIV but not develop antibodies to it for several weeks to months. So it was possible to miss it. Current testing is more accurate and specific, but still is not perfect. It makes sense to avoid high risk groups - however - a distinction must be made between homosexual males and sexually active homosexual males. The risk only exists for those that are sexually active.
Men who had sex with men was a significantly higher risk group for HIV infection in the 80's and 90's. That was not unfounded. Your risk of contracting HIV is signficantly higher with certain types of intercourse. Two of the highest risk groups in the 80's and 90's were gay men and IV drug users. They were affected disproportionately. Certainly the idea that all gay men are promiscuos is unfounded, but gay men were a higher risk group. This was proven in the medical literature. It doesnt mean that being gay is bad or anything along those lines, just that male on male intercourse carries a much higher risk of transmission of HIV. Male to female intercourse carries around a 1 in 1000 risk per episode. Male to male intercourse is about 7 to 10 times more likely to trasmit HIV per episode of unprotected sex. The ability to test for HIV has improved over the last 20 years. We still currently test for the antibody to HIV as opposed to HIV itself. Most people will develop antibodies within about 3-4 wks of infection, however, there is a small percentage that will have HIV but not develop antibodies to it for several weeks to months. So it was possible to miss it. Current testing is more accurate and specific, but still is not perfect. It makes sense to avoid high risk groups - however - a distinction must be made between homosexual males and sexually active homosexual males. The risk only exists for those that are sexually active.sonicare>They test all the blood >Heterosexuals can get and transmit HIV as easily as homosexuals >Not all homosexuals are promiscuous >Its a flawed system
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