Should life sentence be equal to death penalty?

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#1 curono
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This is a thing I have been thinking for a lot of time. Criminals who have made an act so terrible, tend to serve to a perpetual sentence (jailed for all life). However, this is something I really do not understand.

The starting principle of jail is to have a place where you can have people who had comitted felonies. In that place you rehabilitate them so they can re-enter to society. I will not say anything about if jails work or not, since that should go to another topic (and please don't do that yourself!!). But the thing is that it is irrational to have a system, which has the only purpose to rehabilitate and reintroduce people to society AND some of them will never go out. Let me put it this way. You have a drawer for things you will use in some time (from long to short period) but there are things which you know that you will never use, are potentially harmful to other and can corrupt your stuff. What do you do? Do you dispose those things that you KNOW that will be ever used again, or let them use precious space and allow them to corrupt?

Well, most of you may think that my measure is extremely harsh. But think about this. They are living with three meals a day, clean clothes, a bed and a roof over their heads, while homeless people do not have a single spoonful of food. They don't need to work ever again, and the rest of the population must give part of their money (coming from taxes) to support these guys who did something so terrible they had to be locked for the rest of their lives.

Some of you may argue for religious reasons that "thou shalt not kill", but for the sake of sanity, keeping a man jailed for the rest of his life, taunting him to corrupt people who had minor mistakes and possibly let him scape, is not something SANE. Think of people who raped, tortured and killed someone. Most of them are sentenced to life sentence. You think this kind of people should be allowed to live? They will not reincorporate to society (except to prision society). They are dangerous to the people inside jails and some of them cost thousands of dollars to be kept inside. The best solution? End the problem

There is a wise proverb which says: Dead the dog, gone the rabies. Why not should we apply it to ourselves?

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This is a thing I have been thinking for a lot of time. Criminals who have made an act so terrible, tend to serve to a perpetual sentence (jailed for all life). However, this is something I really do not understand.

The starting principle of jail is to have a place where you can have people who had comitted felonies. In that place you rehabilitate them so they can re-enter to society. I will not say anything about if jails work or not, since that should go to another topic (and please don't do that yourself!!). But the thing is that it is irrational to have a system, which has the only purpose to rehabilitate and reintroduce people to society AND some of them will never go out. Let me put it this way. You have a drawer for things you will use in some time (from long to short period) but there are things which you know that you will never use, are potentially harmful to other and can corrupt your stuff. What do you do? Do you dispose those things that you KNOW that will be ever used again, or let them use precious space and allow them to corrupt?

Well, most of you may think that my measure is extremely harsh. But think about this. They are living with three meals a day, clean clothes, a bed and a roof over their heads, while homeless people do not have a single spoonful of food. They don't need to work ever again, and the rest of the population must give part of their money (coming from taxes) to support these guys who did something so terrible they had to be locked for the rest of their lives.

Some of you may argue for religious reasons that "thou shalt not kill", but for the sake of sanity, keeping a man jailed for the rest of his life, taunting him to corrupt people who had minor mistakes and possibly let him scape, is not something SANE. Think of people who raped, tortured and killed someone. Most of them are sentenced to life sentence. You think this kind of people should be allowed to live? They will not reincorporate to society (except to prision society). They are dangerous to the people inside jails and some of them cost thousands of dollars to be kept inside. The best solution? End the problem

There is a wise proverb which says: Dead the dog, gone the rabies. Why not should we apply it to ourselves?

curono

the good thing about life in prison is if somehow they find out youre innocent you at least get out

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#3 Hewkii
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I thought "Life" was really some abstract number of years from when dying of Malaria was a national sport or something of that nature.
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#4 VinnoT
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The starting principle of jail is to have a place where you can have people who had comitted felonies. In that place you rehabilitate them so they can re-enter to society.

I disagree with that. Some people are in there (people on life sentences) to keep them away from the public and prevent them from offending again.

As far as having the death penalty for everyone who gets given a life sentence..I really dont know. I think its a bit unethical to be executing all those people every year. Our jails would end up like concentration camps...

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#5 curono
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The starting principle of jail is to have a place where you can have people who had comitted felonies. In that place you rehabilitate them so they can re-enter to society.

I disagree with that. Some people are in there (people on life sentences) to keep them away from the public and prevent them from offending again.

As far as having the death penalty for everyone who gets given a life sentence..I really dont know. I think its a bit unethical to be executing all those people every year. Our jails would end up like concentration camps...

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The problem with the idea of concentration camps is that innocent people were killed always. In here you are killing guilty people to prevent more damage. Think of it as penicilin

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No. I stick to it.
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#7 walton13
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I see the death penalty as a way out, life in prison would suck. Think about it, yeah, they may get crappy food 3 times a day and have a 5x5 cell to live in, but they'll be there for 30-60 years. Not exactly something I see as appealing. Also, as stated above, suppose they killed a man instead of giving him a life sentence, and then find out he was innocent, can't let him go now...
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#8 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="curono"]

READ BEFORE POSTING OR ANSWERING POLL!!

This is a thing I have been thinking for a lot of time. Criminals who have made an act so terrible, tend to serve to a perpetual sentence (jailed for all life). However, this is something I really do not understand.

The starting principle of jail is to have a place where you can have people who had comitted felonies. In that place you rehabilitate them so they can re-enter to society. I will not say anything about if jails work or not, since that should go to another topic (and please don't do that yourself!!). But the thing is that it is irrational to have a system, which has the only purpose to rehabilitate and reintroduce people to society AND some of them will never go out. Let me put it this way. You have a drawer for things you will use in some time (from long to short period) but there are things which you know that you will never use, are potentially harmful to other and can corrupt your stuff. What do you do? Do you dispose those things that you KNOW that will be ever used again, or let them use precious space and allow them to corrupt?

Well, most of you may think that my measure is extremely harsh. But think about this. They are living with three meals a day, clean clothes, a bed and a roof over their heads, while homeless people do not have a single spoonful of food. They don't need to work ever again, and the rest of the population must give part of their money (coming from taxes) to support these guys who did something so terrible they had to be locked for the rest of their lives.

Some of you may argue for religious reasons that "thou shalt not kill", but for the sake of sanity, keeping a man jailed for the rest of his life, taunting him to corrupt people who had minor mistakes and possibly let him scape, is not something SANE. Think of people who raped, tortured and killed someone. Most of them are sentenced to life sentence. You think this kind of people should be allowed to live? They will not reincorporate to society (except to prision society). They are dangerous to the people inside jails and some of them cost thousands of dollars to be kept inside. The best solution? End the problem

There is a wise proverb which says: Dead the dog, gone the rabies. Why not should we apply it to ourselves?

H8sMikeMoore

the good thing about life in prison is if somehow they find out youre innocent you at least get out

That's so true. I never thought about it that way. Wow, that's deep. It would infuriate me to see an innocent person go to prison, although it is happening in today's society. It's so sad, I know.

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#9 freshgman
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I would rather they rot in a cell
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I would rather they be forced to wear clown makeup and dance for my entertainment.
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#11 Niff_T
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Uh, a life sentence does not usually mean jail for life, so I have no idea how it can be equal to the death penalty...
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#12 mrbojangles25
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The really bad criminals jailed for life are kept in solitary confinement.

Like you said, they get three meals a day and a bed (cot is a more appropriate term).

And thats it. They spend 23 hours of every day in that sell. Alone, with nothing. If theyre lucky, they might get a book, or maybe some paper and a crayon.

Personally, I would rather die than do that for the next 60 years. And yes, 60 years is how long it would last, they get good healthcare in prison.

If you ask me, life imprisonment is borderline cruel and unusual. At leas their victims are dead. We should just execute because, like you said, the point of prison is rehabilitation.

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#13 berhaneric
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i would say that they should get executed if they got life... but then again i dont beleive people should get more then 5-10 years for any crime they might have done. I believe that if you take some of their time you take some of there life.

P.S. this has nothing to do with my religion... which since ive been 7 ive been doubting and now only belive in the "how do you get some thing from nothing" this part is about the big bang theory. you cant blow something up from nothing-there has to be a beginning to the cycle.

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#14 Elann2008
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The really bad criminals jailed for life are kept in solitary confinement.

Like you said, they get three meals a day and a bed (cot is a more appropriate term).

And thats it. They spend 23 hours of every day in that sell. Alone, with nothing. If theyre lucky, they might get a book, or maybe some paper and a crayon.

Personally, I would rather die than do that for the next 60 years. And yes, 60 years is how long it would last, they get good healthcare in prison.

If you ask me, life imprisonment is borderline cruel and unusual. At leas their victims are dead. We should just execute because, like you said, the point of prison is rehabilitation.

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I totally agree. That is extreme torture. There isnt a word for that actually. I would rather they kill me or else I'll pull off a stunt, grab a gun from an officer and shoot myself in the head. Pretty insane? Living in that cell would be insane.

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#15 SimpJee
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I'm all about how much money it costs in this area. Death Penalty costs more to enforce, I'd rather have them put in jail for the rest of their lives.
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#16 a55assin
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Personally, I'd rather see the death sentence completely abolished in all states. Despite what the convicts have done, they still deserve to live out their days in some sort of fashion. Unless of course...they choose death over life imprisonment. Some still read books. Write books. Help out the police and make deals. There are far more reasons for letting them live than killing them.

On the issue of public opinion and reasons for such resentment towards the death sentence; most of the population in America still clings to Religion. Each and every one of the holy books out there clearly state that--It is for God to judge. According to God, we shouldn't have the right to choose who dies and lives. At least not the way a death sentence plays out. Remember...The US is still based on Religion...I mean, IN GOD WE TRUST...I'm sure you'll all recognize this as something you've seen many times before...

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#17 HeyDoYaThang
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We need to put people to the question again like the old days. Oh wait we still do that to people....even innocent ones....but it gets the truth out of them.
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#18 Hungry_bunny
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Interesting fact:
Texas, with over 300 people on death row, is spending an estimated $2.3 million per case, but its murder rate remains one of the highest in the country.

Life imprisonment is not cheaper than death penalty if you count in all the lengthy capital trials, all the necessary expert witnesses, the appeal process and the fact that a person facing death penalty will probably never admit to the crime.