Should the death penalty be aborted?

As you all know, the death penalty is a major issue in today's modern society. It costs millions and is rarely used. However, some might say that life in prison is too good for some of the criminals.

Imo, yes, I dont think it suits our society.

No. It's not used enough.

Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

No, I would even go as far to say that the process should be sped up so that it doesnt waste money. If someone gets the death penalty there should be a waiting period of maybe a month... then its time to take 'em out behind the old shed.

Yes, there are no tangible benefits from implementing the death penalty.Engrish_Major

Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Pixel-Pirate

There's something like 10,000 murders in the US every year, and we only execute about 100 murderers. You could argue that we don't really have the death penalty.

Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Pixel-Pirate

Throwing someone in a prison with other dangerous offenders, limiting their freedom and contact with the outside and making them do mandatory labour because they committed a crime sounds like revenge to me.

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Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Pirate700

No, it is still necessary, unfortunately.

The simple fact is this: some criminals are beyond rehabilitation, and those that are should be considered worthy of the death penalty.

I think the death penalty should be used more, to be honest.

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Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Espada12

Throwing someone in a prison with other dangerous offenders, limiting their freedom and contact with the outside and making them do mandatory labour because they committed a crime sounds like revenge to me.

Advocating for abortion eh? Typical Liberal bs.

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Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Mochyc

But imo the death penalty should be limited to murderers (depending on how they did it) and traitors.

Yes
ONLY B/C OF HOW OFTEN WE GET THINGS WRONG IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM

-if we were 100% accurate, I would be all for it
-there are some people that are just beyond help (given current medical and psychological limitations)

The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

I say a death penalty shouldn't be around, money should go to re-educating criminals in prison, not killing them.ModeDude

I say a death penalty shouldn't be around, money should go to re-educating criminals in prison, not killing them.ModeDude

lol.. you do understand many many prisoners are beyond rehabilitation right?

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Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Espada12

Throwing someone in a prison with other dangerous offenders, limiting their freedom and contact with the outside and making them do mandatory labour because they committed a crime sounds like revenge to me.

So... your saying that prison is bad? Im sorry, but if someone rapes a child and mutilatestheir body.. they do not deserve freedom, contact with other people, or get to choose who they get to spend the rest of their life with.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Yes, there are no tangible benefits from implementing the death penalty.Pirate700

[QUOTE="ModeDude"]I say a death penalty shouldn't be around, money should go to re-educating criminals in prison, not killing them.Pirate700

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Yes. The only benefit is revenge, and the law should not function on the idea of revenge.

Chrypt22

Throwing someone in a prison with other dangerous offenders, limiting their freedom and contact with the outside and making them do mandatory labour because they committed a crime sounds like revenge to me.

So... your saying that prison is bad? Im sorry, but if someone rapes a child and mutilatestheir body.. they do not deserve freedom, contact with other people, or get to choose who they get to spend the rest of their life with.

Was not the point of that post at all, read his then read mine.

The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

Alter_Echo

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Yes, there are no tangible benefits from implementing the death penalty.Engrish_Major

Can be easily circumvented by shortening and simplifying the appeals process.

No, it needs to be put into the express checkout lane. If someone has been proven guilty by an impartial jury of one's peers beyond all doubt, then strap the convict to the chair and throw the switch.

The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

Alter_Echo

The same day may be a little strong... but I do agree that the waiting period is waayyyy too long. Though it depends on the state.. Texas seems to execute people a lot more than other states. I dont know what their waiting period is.

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The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Yes, there are no tangible benefits from implementing the death penalty.Engrish_Major

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The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

11Marcel

It's the appeals process to get the sentence lowered I believe.

Can be easily circumvented by shortening and simplifying the appeals process.

No, i think it should still be used. I see no reason why citisens should pay to keep criminals alive.markop2003

It doesn't cost much to put them to death. The cost is in the the time the sit in a cell for 20 years.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Yes, there are no tangible benefits from implementing the death penalty.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Can be easily circumvented by shortening and simplifying the appeals process.

Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Can be easily circumvented by shortening and simplifying the appeals process.

Engrish_Major

That's nice but there are easy fixes to make the death penalty less costly than dealing with a criminal for a lifetime.

Only because we use wildly inefficient methods of killing. I could think of literally 100 different ways to do it for free. Alter_Echo

[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Again, wrong.

Pirate700

Problem is it ends up costing more to carry out the execution than it does to keep the prisoner for life. This is mainly due to the right of due process.

So what are the benefits? It's cheaper is a myth.

And I have no desire to screw with the right to due process and trial by peers so that people can get killed easier. If you want someone executed so bad you can always take up vigilantism.

The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

Alter_Echo

The right to appeal doesn't only appl to certain people. :|

You cant take away a person's right to due process.

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[QUOTE="Mochyc"] Although I agree there are other benefits, don't go out spouting "Wrong". Explain your reasoning, otherwise it's really a useless post that is made to annoy.Pixel-Pirate

Problem is it ends up costing more to carry out the execution than it does to keep the prisoner for life. This is mainly due to the right of due process.

So what are the benefits? It's cheaper is a myth.

[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]

The only part of the death penalty that im not cool with is how long it takes them to kill people. Convicting someone and sentencing them to death and then waiting 20 years to kill them makes absolutely no sense at all.

I know its all wound up in the appeals process and whatnot. If the person is obviously guilty i see no reason why they cant be killed the same day.

BuryMe

The right to appeal doesn't only appl to certain people. :|

You cant take away a person's right to due process.

It really scares me that people think that "Well if it's OBVIOUS..."

People have been tried and found innocent even when it seemed obvious they were guilty. People have been tried and found guilty (thus meaning they were basically guilty without a shadow of a doubt) and later found innocent. If we execute someone without right to due process and it is later discovered they were innocent, can we hold people accountable for manslaughter? Or is it just "Whoops! Oh well!"

Which is why I said the process needs to be streamlined and expedited.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I did two posts up...

Pirate700

Problem is it ends up costing more to carry out the execution than it does to keep the prisoner for life. This is mainly due to the right of due process.

So what are the benefits? It's cheaper is a myth.

Which is scary to me. The right to due process and fair trial should not be thrown under the train so that people can get their revenge fix on quicker.