Should we kick out Gaddafi?

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#1 CwlHeddwyn
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Colonel Gaddafi the Libyan dictator for the last 40 years is killing is own people with tanks, guns, rockets, bombs. For weeks now the rebels who stood up against him have been fighting to kick him out. Thousands have been killed. The rebels dont look strong enough to beat him. In the rebel city of Misratah Gaddafi's soldiers have put the place under siege attacking with snipers, mortars, cluster bombs etc. Many civilians have been killed.

NATO have put a no fly zone on Libya and stopped Gaddafi's air force from attacking the rebels and civilians. But the siege of Misratah carries on.

So should we kick Gaddafi out? should we go into Libya and use force to remove him from power? This means boots on the ground.

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#2 ionusX
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negative.. why you amy ask? were not the world police..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xVmKEycyUg

but we could get sgt. angel tot ry i mean.. he arrested a whole village ;p

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#3 Darkwanderer000
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America does not own the world and is not the world-police. America should solve the myriad of problems it has within it's own borders before it tries to solve anyone else's.

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#4 Legendaryscmt
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America does not own the world and is not the world-police. America should solve the myriad of problems it has within it's own borders before it tries to solve anyone else's.

Darkwanderer000

Took the words right out of my mouth.

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#5 nickz_fpk
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By "we" do you mean the gamespot community?

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#6 Darkwanderer000
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By "we" do you mean the gamespot community?

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Sure, why not?:D

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#7 CwlHeddwyn
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ok sure America isn't the world Police I know but guess what? Gaddafi killed 200 Americans in 1988. He blew up a plane full of Americans. He is a terrorist. I thought there was a war on terror.

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#8 jbento321
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If by "kick out" you mean hang him public and in live TV then YES!

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#9 ionusX
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[QUOTE="nickz_fpk"]

By "we" do you mean the gamespot community?

Darkwanderer000

Sure, why not?:D

oh he ment us..

id still send sgt angel

but you have my daggers..

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Everyone's calling on America, then berating them for taking action.

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#11 8-Bitterness
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ok sure America isn't the world Police I know but guess what? Gaddafi killed 200 Americans in 1988. He blew up a plane full of Americans. He is a terrorist. I thought there was a war on terror.

CwlHeddwyn
so he killed thousands and thousands of his own f****** kind but as soon as he kills some americans s*** hits the fan?
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#12 Pirate700
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Everyone's calling on America, then berating them for taking action.

Conno08

That's how it always is because we ARE the world police (along with the UK and others). If we do nothing, we aren't using our power to help others. When we do something, we are just in it for ourselves. We can't win and that only comes from being the world police which people like to bash us for "being".

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ok, im all for helping my fellow gamespotters in this but can someone fill me in on why we should? i am too bored too look it up.
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[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

ok sure America isn't the world Police I know but guess what? Gaddafi killed 200 Americans in 1988. He blew up a plane full of Americans. He is a terrorist. I thought there was a war on terror.

8-Bitterness

so he killed thousands and thousands of his own f****** kind but as soon as he kills some americans s*** hits the fan?

Murdering Americans makes it an American interest to kill Ghadafi.

I would expect any country who's citizens are outright murdered with complete malice to respond with military action.

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I would say apply pressure on Arab allies - specifically Egypt, to move an army in to coordinate with the no-fly zone. It would break up Gaddafi's forces, they're right now trying to blend in with the rebels using the same sort of technicals as their main weapons. They abandoned using conventional military means. Ergo, if Egypt - which has the largest Arab land army, sent SOME forces over, it could mean all the difference.

I also think if NATO troops just landed soldiers into Lbiya, occupation would not be nearly as long as Iraq or Afghanistan.

I view Libyan situation similar to the occupation of France. US and allies saving France from the Nazi's was a welcome, and occupation was pretty much smooth sailing.

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#16 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

ok sure America isn't the world Police I know but guess what? Gaddafi killed 200 Americans in 1988. He blew up a plane full of Americans. He is a terrorist. I thought there was a war on terror.

so he killed thousands and thousands of his own f****** kind but as soon as he kills some americans s*** hits the fan?

He killed the americans back in 1988. His mass murdering of his own people is what lead NATO to intervene this year. So I don't see where you come to that conclusion.
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I would say apply pressure on Arab allies - specifically Egypt, to move an army in to coordinate with the no-fly zone. It would break up Gaddafi's forces, they're right now trying to blend in with the rebels using the same sort of technicals as their main weapons. They abandoned using conventional military means. Ergo, if Egypt - which has the largest Arab land army, sent SOME forces over, it could mean all the difference.

I also think if NATO troops just landed soldiers into Lbiya, occupation would not be nearly as long as Iraq or Afghanistan.

I view Libyan situation similar to the occupation of France. US and allies saving France from the Nazi's was a welcome, and occupation was pretty much smooth sailing.

SaudiFury

What Arab allies?

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I would say apply pressure on Arab allies - specifically Egypt, to move an army in to coordinate with the no-fly zone. It would break up Gaddafi's forces, they're right now trying to blend in with the rebels using the same sort of technicals as their main weapons. They abandoned using conventional military means. Ergo, if Egypt - which has the largest Arab land army, sent SOME forces over, it could mean all the difference.

I also think if NATO troops just landed soldiers into Lbiya, occupation would not be nearly as long as Iraq or Afghanistan.

I view Libyan situation similar to the occupation of France. US and allies saving France from the Nazi's was a welcome, and occupation was pretty much smooth sailing.

SaudiFury

you mean like their occupation of korea? oh thats right!

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#19 Zanoh
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ok sure America isn't the world Police I know but guess what? Gaddafi killed 200 Americans in 1988. He blew up a plane full of Americans. He is a terrorist. I thought there was a war on terror.

CwlHeddwyn

An eye opener: Terrorism is an extreme form of hatred. Hatred has existed since the conception of our race. It is a "war" against hatred to wage, and unfortunately, it will never be won...for hatred will continue to exist in some shape or form.

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#20 DoomZaW
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Considering we are already dropping enough bombs on his forces and military installations, i'd say that decision has already been made. I don't think U.N will let Gadaffi walk away from this one.

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#21 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

I would say apply pressure on Arab allies - specifically Egypt, to move an army in to coordinate with the no-fly zone. It would break up Gaddafi's forces, they're right now trying to blend in with the rebels using the same sort of technicals as their main weapons. They abandoned using conventional military means. Ergo, if Egypt - which has the largest Arab land army, sent SOME forces over, it could mean all the difference.

I also think if NATO troops just landed soldiers into Lbiya, occupation would not be nearly as long as Iraq or Afghanistan.

I view Libyan situation similar to the occupation of France. US and allies saving France from the Nazi's was a welcome, and occupation was pretty much smooth sailing.

ionusX

you mean like their occupation of korea? oh thats right!

last time i checked, there is still a virtual enemy state called North Korea. and South Korea is our ally.

As far the snarky comment about "what Arab Allies?", under the right circumstances America's Arab allies will help, and don't give me the quid pro quo BS. even America's Western Allies play that same game. The reason being why i point to Egypt, is it's in transitional phase and at the moment it's a freer state, and hopefully will stay like that one. It is hard to tell a country like say Saudi Arabia (my country) to help liberate a country of dictatorship for democracy, where well... a monarchy is a form of tyranny.

Anyways i made my comment and stated my opinion, i'm in way too good of a mood on far more important personal topics to let this circle jerk forum get me down.