Shouldn't Gary Johnson be allowed to join the Presidential debates?

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#1 sexyweapons
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I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to,afterall he's running for President as well.

So what does OT think?

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#2 Ring_of_fire
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What is the criteria to be in the debates?
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#3 YoshiYogurt
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Gary Johnson sucks, why not jill stien?
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I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to,afterall he's running for President as well.

So what does OT think?

sexyweapons
There are ALOT Of people that can claim that they are running for president.
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#5 sexyweapons
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Gary Johnson sucks, why not jill stien?YoshiYogurt
fine,*adds Jill Stein*
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#6 homegirl2180
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He doesn't meet the requirements, so that's really all there is to it. Ross Perot debated in 1992. The better question would be: should we change the requirement that you need to be polling at least 15% nationwide to join the Presidential debate?
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#7 worlock77
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What is the criteria to be in the debates?Ring_of_fire

Pretty much you gotta be the Republican or Democratic nominee.

Personally I think any candidate who's on the ballot in enough states to win should be in the debates.

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#8 hoola
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Yes. All third parties should be allowed to. 15% to join the debates is way too much considering the only way to get a good percentage in the polls is to advertise yourself and advertising yourself requires money which is all spent on just getting on the ballots for third parties. That essentially limits any third party/independent candidate to those who are really rich.

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#9 Ring_of_fire
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]What is the criteria to be in the debates?worlock77

Pretty much you gotta be the Republican or Democratic nominee.

Personally I think any candidate who's on the ballot in enough states to win should be in the debates.

Thanks. I think I would agree with your suggestion.
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#10 Laihendi
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The problem is less that they aren't allowed to debate and more that voters won't actually make an effort to do research and see who their options are. They just vote based on what they see on TV. And then there are the voters who won't vote for who they want to win, because they don't think the person can win, even though the reason that person can't win is because of that self-fulfilling belief.
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#11 ShadowDeathX
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He doesn't meet the requirements, so that's really all there is to it. Ross Perot debated in 1992. The better question would be: should we change the requirement that you need to be polling at least 15% nationwide to join the Presidential debate?homegirl2180
Yes, it should be any candidate who is on the ballot in enough states to be elected President of the United States, will have a guaranteed podium on the debate stage.
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#12 TopTierHustler
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no.

waste of time.

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#13 cslayer211
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Gary Johnson sucks, why not jill stien?YoshiYogurt
:lol:
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#14 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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I loathe the two-party system and would be happy to see the third party candidates get to have more involvement.
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#15 UnknownSniper65
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That would legitimize 3rd party candidates and neither party wants that. The 15% mark for those debates is way to high and they know it will be unlikely any 3rd party candidate reaches it. At the end of the day, the only thing the two parties can agree on is they can't let 3rd party candidates become mainstream.

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What is the criteria to be in the debates?Ring_of_fire

It has something to do with national polling.

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#18 El_Zo1212o
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Wait. Who? That little dude from Diff'rent Strokes? Not a chance.
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#19 Zlurodirom
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It would be nice to see more people up there and diversifying the field; however, there is hardly enough time for Obama and Romney, adding one or more people may just muddy up the field and not allow everyone an equal share of explaining their veiws/policies.

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#20 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed thegerg
Really? What if those putting on/administrating the debate don't him to participate?

Then they're big meanies and I'll send them a concerned letter.

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#21 Allicrombie
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They may as well admit write in candidates as well, I'd love to see ALF at the podium.
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#22 Chemistian
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This topic came up prior to the first debate. In order to allow them on the stage, one must redefine what measuring stick we wish to use for those of whom wish to have a podium. There are roughly 43 political parties in the U.S. If each one nominates a candidate and gets an equal amount of time, no one gets much substance in a 90 minute debate. If we only wish to allow the five major party candidates (Dem., Rep. Libertarian, Reform, Green) we must have a measuring stick that clearly shows why these five belong there, and the other 38 do not. Otherwise we end up with 6th party supporters making the same argument that 3rd party supporters are making now, only without clear guidelines. The current guidelines are available from the Federal Election Commission. One additional thing of note: the qualifications for being on the stage are the same as for qualifying for the $91.2 million campaign matching funds, so this could get absurdly expensive, very quick.
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#23 surrealnumber5
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Yes. All third parties should be allowed to. 15% to join the debates is way too much considering the only way to get a good percentage in the polls is to advertise yourself and advertising yourself requires money which is all spent on just getting on the ballots for third parties. That essentially limits any third party/independent candidate to those who are really rich.

hoola
it is not as limiting as the polls not including third party players, but what does one expect when the democrats and republicans formed the Commission on Presidential Debates after the League of Woman voters stopped overseeing the debates
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#24 Nibroc420
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Cave Johnson would be a far better candidate.
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#25 TheWalkingGhost
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Ok, I am running for president. Let me in the debates, no reason not to!
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#26 UnknownSniper65
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Nobody is saying everyone would should be allowed. I just think its rather obvious that they chose 15% with the knowledge no 3rd party candidate would ever reach it.

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#27 DaBrainz
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Only if he changes his name to Harry Johnson.
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#28 mingmao3046
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yes he should be able to be in it. would be nice seeing some actual contrast for once
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#29 sexyweapons
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[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed thegerg
Really? What if those putting on/administrating the debate don't him to participate?

what happens if they don't like Romney or Obama,you expect them to not let them participate?
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#30 TopTierHustler
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Cave Johnson would be a far better candidate.Nibroc420
He has a strong stance on lemons.

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#31 LOXO7
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What is the criteria to be in the debates?Ring_of_fire
You know it already. But here it is for everyone else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDQsIKbQLFY&feature=plcp