Shouldn't we be actually congratulating President Hilliary Clinton not Obama?

[QUOTE="NZgamer007"]Well only 1% of Obama supporters could name his policies they just vote for him for three reason; the colour of his skin, how he speaks, America wanting change.-Sun_Tzu-

Let me give it a try: Well you know, only .5% of Hillary supporters voted for her because of her policies. The rest just voted for two reasons: because of her last name and because she's a woman.

man90 in case you don't know and live in a small little bubble America is th world's most powerful country and their decisions affect everyone.

[QUOTE="NZgamer007"]Well only 1% of Obama supporters could name his policies they just vote for him for three reason; the colour of his skin, how he speaks, America wanting change.inoperativeRS

a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.NZgamer007

Prove it.

Here's an idea - get over it! ;) And since you like pulling statistics out of your ass so much, I got one for you: 100% of people could care less. Maniacc1

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a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.-Sun_Tzu-

Prove it.

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a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.-Sun_Tzu-

Prove it.

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a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.NZgamer007

Prove it.

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a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.NZgamer007

Prove it.

...no, that proves nothing. Traditionally, around I believe 90% of African Americans vote Democratic, and whites tend to vote Republican. The statistics you site are fairly normal across the last couple of elections.

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a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.NZgamer007

Prove it.

Well actually he isn't lying. SO many black voter for Obama just becasue he is.... Black. That is true.

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a higher percentage of people could name McCains or Clintons policies because they actually have to make policy to get supporters.NZgamer007

Prove it.

[QUOTE="NZgamer007"]Well only 1% of Obama supporters could name his policies they just vote for him for three reason; the colour of his skin, how he speaks, America wanting change.-Sun_Tzu-

Let me give it a try: Well you know, only .5% of Hillary supporters voted for her because of her policies. The rest just voted for two reasons: because of her last name and because she's a woman.

:lol: yeah seriously, you people need to stop making up statistics (directed at NZ, not at Sun). I mean, come on, Sun has a point-if you want to argue that people voted for Obama because he's black, you could quite easily argue that people voted for Clinton because she's a woman. An example: my grandma usually votes Republican, but she voted for Hillary during the primaries because she's a woman.

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[QUOTE="NZgamer007"]Well only 1% of Obama supporters could name his policies they just vote for him for three reason; the colour of his skin, how he speaks, America wanting change.chessmaster1989

Let me give it a try: Well you know, only .5% of Hillary supporters voted for her because of her policies. The rest just voted for two reasons: because of her last name and because she's a woman.

:lol: yeah seriously, you people need to stop making up statistics (directed at NZ, not at Sun). I mean, come on, Sun has a point-if you want to argue that people voted for Obama because he's black, you could quite easily argue that people voted for Clinton because she's a woman. An example: my grandma usually votes Republican, but she voted for Hillary during the primaries because she's a woman.

Well 100% of your posts/opinions no one cares aboutNZgamer007

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Here's an idea - get over it! ;) And since you like pulling statistics out of your ass so much, I got one for you: 100% of people could care less. NZgamer007

Sweet, sweet irony.

Edit: glitchspot refused to let me quote NZ. :(

Ok then in South Carolina (A huge black population) 90% of them voted for Obama in the democratic primaries.NZgamer007

Ok then in South Carolina (A huge black population) 90% of them voted for Obama in the democratic primaries.NZgamer007

EDIT: Sorry, misread it. Okay, so what's your point? That proves that a lot of African Americans voted for Obama, not why they voted for him.

It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.naydaslayer

It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.naydaslayer

[QUOTE="naydaslayer"]It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.NZgamer007

Erm.. what is your opinion, exactly?

[QUOTE="naydaslayer"]It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.warbmxjohn

Nice sig.

[QUOTE="naydaslayer"]It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.NZgamer007

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="naydaslayer"]It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.naydaslayer

Nice sig.

[QUOTE="naydaslayer"]It's funny how people are saying "get over it, he won", yet those are most likely the people that whined about Bush for 8 years.NZgamer007

My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

I would say that percent is voted democrat every four years anyway. They expect a handout when they vote liberal.

My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

Yes, and my point is that that's a bogus conclusion. You cannot conclude something like that based upon so little data. What if 90% actually just preferred Obama's policies?

Seriously, dude, get more evidence before you state conclusions like that...

My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

Now lets explore other possible reasons why they voted for Obama. Obama began his career in the public eye as a community organizer, and worked in the inner-cities of the South side of Chicago. Now let's look at the black community of South Carolina. It is no secret that a significant portion of the black community lives in poverty. It is also no secret that the poverty rate in South Carolina is higher than the national average.

So why should the black voters of South Carolina vote for Hillary, an upper-class senator from New York, over a Obama, a man who has dedicated a significant portion of his life to the inner-cities of Chicago?

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My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

naydaslayer

I would say that percent is voted democrat every four years anyway. They expect a handout when they vote liberal.

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My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

I would say that percent is voted democrat every four years anyway. They expect a handout when they vote liberal.

Ah, I thought you meant that Obama only won the preliminaries because Hilary was bad, and won in the presidency because he was black. Doesn't matter though. You should be thanking Palin for giving Obama that extra injection of borderline voters in "teh finals".

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My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

-Sun_Tzu-

Now lets explore other possible reasons why they voted for Obama. Obama began his career in the public eye as a community organizer, and worked in the inner-cities of the South side of Chicago. Now let's look at the black community of South Carolina. It is no secret that a significant portion of the black community lives in poverty. It is also no secret that the poverty rate in South Carolina is higher than the national average.

So why should the black voters of South Carolina vote for Hillary, an upper-class senator from New York, over a Obama, a man who has dedicated a significant portion of his life to the inner-cities of Chicago?

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My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

Now lets explore other possible reasons why they voted for Obama. Obama began his career in the public eye as a community organizer, and worked in the inner-cities of the South side of Chicago. Now let's look at the black community of South Carolina. It is no secret that a significant portion of the black community lives in poverty. It is also no secret that the poverty rate in South Carolina is higher than the national average.

So why should the black voters of South Carolina vote for Hillary, an upper-class senator from New York, over a Obama, a man who has dedicated a significant portion of his life to the inner-cities of Chicago?

If you don't get 90% of the vote because of policies, how do Democrats keep winning 90% of the black vote every election:|.

Unless... your suggesting that John Kerry and Al Gore were both secretly black :o.

If you don't get 90% of the vote because of policies, how do Democrats keep winning 90% of the black vote every election:|.

Unless... your suggesting that John Kerry and Al Gore were both secretly black :o.

chessmaster1989

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My opinion is in the title.... My point on the SC voting patterns is that only like 5% of black americans voted for Hilliary so most only really voted for Obama based on the colour of his skin not his beliefs/policies.

NZgamer007

Now lets explore other possible reasons why they voted for Obama. Obama began his career in the public eye as a community organizer, and worked in the inner-cities of the South side of Chicago. Now let's look at the black community of South Carolina. It is no secret that a significant portion of the black community lives in poverty. It is also no secret that the poverty rate in South Carolina is higher than the national average.

So why should the black voters of South Carolina vote for Hillary, an upper-class senator from New York, over a Obama, a man who has dedicated a significant portion of his life to the inner-cities of Chicago?

But there's no way Hilary Clinton would have defeated McCain :| hamstergeddon

She probably would have, but there is no way she would have carried places like North Carolina and Virginia. I think she had a good chance at Kerry + Ohio + Florida, and maybe a few other places like Iowa and New Mexico.

[QUOTE="NZgamer007"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And why do you say that? Let's look beyond race and gender for a second. Why did the majority of black South Carolina democrats vote for Obama? Well for starters he ran a better campaign and is arguably a better politician than Hillary.

Now lets explore other possible reasons why they voted for Obama. Obama began his career in the public eye as a community organizer, and worked in the inner-cities of the South side of Chicago. Now let's look at the black community of South Carolina. It is no secret that a significant portion of the black community lives in poverty. It is also no secret that the poverty rate in South Carolina is higher than the national average.

So why should the black voters of South Carolina vote for Hillary, an upper-class senator from New York, over a Obama, a man who has dedicated a significant portion of his life to the inner-cities of Chicago?

chessmaster1989

If you don't get 90% of the vote because of policies, how do Democrats keep winning 90% of the black vote every election:|.

Unless... your suggesting that John Kerry and Al Gore were both secretly black :o.