So apparently a human life is worth less than the price of an illegal download..

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#1 waffle57
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Is there not anything mildly messed up about this?

By this conversation rate, she could probably just pay with 80 dead relatives.

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#2 SgtKevali
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I hate this nonsense where they make examples out of people.

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#3 SuprmanLuvHandl
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She has to pay $1,920,000 wtf:o

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#4 GHlegend77
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So the fourth person is only dead in one-third of his body? :P
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#5 Espada12
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I hate this nonsense where they make examples out of people.

SgtKevali

Err why?

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#6 Ryan51287
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How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?
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#7 herpderp9000
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That is nuts. 80,000 per download? And there are 24? Ho-ly jesus. I am totatly not going to go and get all my music for free for the next year because of this. No, I will go buy it from the store to let the record companies (or whoever) know what good a job they are doing combating piracy!

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#8 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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People are too dumb/gullible/corrupt for jury trials to be fair.
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#9 GHlegend77
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How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?Ryan51287
The government can track your IP and downloads and visited sites, as well as anonymous tips, etc.
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#10 Vader993
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well there about 7 billion of us

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#11 Espada12
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How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?Ryan51287

They track the route of the problem not the symptoms.

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#12 J-WOW
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the hell do you expect a person to pay $80,000 per song, are they insane? is it even that bad? these music artis are rich enough anyways
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#13 Loco_Live
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▲ This is messed up and corrupt. I am angry. ▲

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#14 Ryan51287
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[QUOTE="Ryan51287"]How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?GHlegend77
The government can track your IP and downloads and visited sites, as well as anonymous tips, etc.

This I know but why here out of everyone? Plus, I saw this is a year-old story.
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#15 Vesica_Prime
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That's typical cold-hearted corporations for you.

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#16 waffle57
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[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="Ryan51287"]How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?Ryan51287
The government can track your IP and downloads and visited sites, as well as anonymous tips, etc.

This I know but why here out of everyone? Plus, I saw this is a year-old story.

Eh, on the Internet age is pretty meaningless. But yeah it is a year old, but it still applies now.
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#17 GeForce2187
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Can't wait for the RIAA and MPAA to go under!
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#18 coolbeans90
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Eh, faulty comparison. The Air France deal in no way indicates the value of a human life.

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#19 savetehhaloz
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Bloody ridiculous. A great example of corporative greed.
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#20 Frenzyd109
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Millions of people do this and she somehow is the only one getting caught... She must be posting the torrent status on her facebook or something
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#21 Ryan51287
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If you find the whole story she was fined $20k a year earlier for the same thing. It's more of a "didn't learn her lesson" than a "they took her life" story.
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#22 waffle57
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If you find the whole story she was fined $20k a year earlier for the same thing. It's more of a "didn't learn her lesson" than a "they took her life" story.Ryan51287
Shhh, this is the Internet. You're not supposed to post pieces of information that go against the sensationalist OP, you're just supposed to join the angry masses.
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#23 Ryan51287
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[QUOTE="Ryan51287"]If you find the whole story she was fined $20k a year earlier for the same thing. It's more of a "didn't learn her lesson" than a "they took her life" story.waffle57
Shhh, this is the Internet. You're not supposed to post pieces of information that go against the sensationalist OP, you're just supposed to join the angry masses.

::Lighting my torch and getting a pitch fork:: Is that better?
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#24 auron_16
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It says "24K in advance." There could be more later.
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#25 SuprmanLuvHandl
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If you find the whole story she was fined $20k a year earlier for the same thing. It's more of a "didn't learn her lesson" than a "they took her life" story.Ryan51287

I thought it was just a retrial? not that she got caught twice

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#26 waffle57
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[QUOTE="waffle57"][QUOTE="Ryan51287"]If you find the whole story she was fined $20k a year earlier for the same thing. It's more of a "didn't learn her lesson" than a "they took her life" story.Ryan51287
Shhh, this is the Internet. You're not supposed to post pieces of information that go against the sensationalist OP, you're just supposed to join the angry masses.

::Lighting my torch and getting a pitch fork:: Is that better?

Yes, much better. Now you understand the internet.
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#27 Espada12
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[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="Ryan51287"]How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?Ryan51287
The government can track your IP and downloads and visited sites, as well as anonymous tips, etc.

This I know but why here out of everyone? Plus, I saw this is a year-old story.

I just told you, she was not actually convicted of downloading but of sharing...

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#28 WushuFighter
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How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?Ryan51287

ISPs look for the most downloaded hits, ie. new Lady Gaga, Bieber, etc. So unless you have decent tastes in music, you won't likely get caught if you aren't downloading excessively.

However I'm not recomminding anyone to download illegally ;)

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#29 Orlando_Magic
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The lady had to pay so much because she was uploading/providing/sharing files. Assuming a ton of people did download the files she uploaded, I can understand the large amount. But still, $80,000 seems like a ton per song.

I don't know the exact figures, but if each song costs roughly $1, that means they are assuming 80,000 people downloaded each song she uploaded. But who knows. In actuality, millions of people may have downloaded the files she uploaded.

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#30 Desulated
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Corporations don't give a damn about human lives. If any falls, there'll be thousands ready to replace them.

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#31 BluRayHiDef
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Obviously, she can't pay the money. So, I'm assuming that she'll have to serve jail time? If so, how long?

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#32 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="Ryan51287"]How does this woman get caught out of all the people that do it?WushuFighter

ISPs look for the most downloaded hits, ie. new Lady Gaga, Bieber, etc. So unless you have decent tastes in music, you won't likely get caught if you aren't downloading excessively.

However I'm not recomminding anyone to download illegally ;)

I personally buy all of my music from the I-tunes Music Store. Since getting my I-pod touch back in February-2009, I've purchased over $300.00 worth of music. It's worth the money considering that you can download songs that run at 320 KB/s. That's darn good quality.

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#33 RobboElRobbo
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The fuss over downloading is blown WAY out of proportion, and the actions taken are loads worse than the actual downloading.

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#34 LIONHEART-_-
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80,000 X 24 *opens calculator* = $1,920,000 total
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#35 Gaming-Planet
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Tracking down individuals isn't helping combating piracy at all, they're just wasting more money. They must be butt **** down stupid to think she is willing to pay 80k for each download. What does that result? Jail time. What does that mean? Wasting taxes on something stupid.

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#36 The-Tree
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That's stupid, they should just make her pay how much each download was worth and delete the songs she downloaded.

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#37 warownslife
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Now why is it that every one being caught for bad stuff looking the same? I suspect racism.

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#38 QuetzaIcoatl
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I could donate to her a couple of my dead relatives to help cover the cost.

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#39 blues35301
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I hate this nonsense where they make examples out of people.

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Yeah it is incredibly ridiculous. They should make the fine like 3 times the cost of the media. Meaning like 3 bucks a song and like 180/ game. Pretty steep but better than 80,000 dollars lmao.

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#40 Pixel-Pirate
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I really don't get why people have to pay utterly absurd amounts that do not fit the crime. Why do companies and the jury get to say "You have to pay eleventy billion dollars!"

That isn't justice. I'd personally like to see judges instantly toss out of court any civil case that involves someone being sued for an amount FAR above what should be asked.

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#41 Pixel-Pirate
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Tracking down individuals isn't helping combating piracy at all, they're just wasting more money. They must be butt **** down stupid to think she is willing to pay 80k for each download. What does that result? Jail time. What does that mean? Wasting taxes on something stupid.

Gaming-Planet

It's not like this will remotely harm piracy anyway. They make an example of her. The average pirate thinks "Wow....they've sued 10 people this year....there are probably about a billion illegal downloads a year....statisticly it is almost impossible to be caught".

Of course one can get caught. But the fact of the matter is that statisticly you probably have a higher chance of being struck by lightning 30 times and then hit by a meteor while a super volcano explodes and terrorists crash the moon on you.

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#42 bloodling
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"What a sick world"

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#43 Meinhard1
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Thats really sad... There's plenty of people who get away with this. I bet over 50 percent of people here could be in her shoes.
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]Thats really sad... There's plenty of people who get away with this. I bet over 50 percent of people here could be in her shoes.

If I was in her shoes, I would prob owe several billion dollars...
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#45 Kenny789
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Millions get away with it and this poor mom just happens to get caught? How the hell are they not catching the millions of others?
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#46 PBSnipes
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I really don't get why people have to pay utterly absurd amounts that do not fit the crime. Why do companies and the jury get to say "You have to pay eleventy billion dollars!"

That isn't justice. I'd personally like to see judges instantly toss out of court any civil case that involves someone being sued for an amount FAR above what should be asked.

Pixel-Pirate

The law in question was designed to combat large-scale commercial piracy, and to do so in both a compensatory and deterring manner. While it may be unfair in the case of casual piracy, the fact remains that it is the applicable law and anyone found in violation of it must be punished accordingly.

As for the judge and jury the case is far more nuanced than Thomas simply being forced to pay $1,920,000 in damages. For the jury, not only was Thomas obviously guilty but she totally refused to accept responsibility for her actions, even going so far as to imply that her children may have been at fault. As for the judge, he slashed the damages from $1,920,000 to $54,000, calling the original figure "monstrous and shocking" and suggesting that even the $54,000 figure was too high, but that to go any lower would be to go against the jury's verdict.

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#47 GazaAli
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Lame, screw them.
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#48 weezyfb
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2 mil for 24 songs... damn
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#49 MagnumPI
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I figure she may as well keep downloading because what could they do to her? Sue her again for even more money that she can't pay them because she doesn't have it?

If someone sues you and you don't have the money to pay them it really doesn't mean anything. For the amount of money they want she will be paying it off for the rest of her life. So it's just another bill. So **** them. Like I said, what can they do? Add to a bill she will never pay off as it already is?

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#50 Saturos3091
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Can't wait for the RIAA and MPAA to go under!GeForce2187
Same, but with the talk of the government bill banning filesharing, torrenting, and sites...:? I can imagine it'll only get worse.