Who the hell knows? Could be the bible or the Qur'an or some combination of both or neither. Unless God comes waltzing out of heaven we will never know.
Who the hell knows? Could be the bible or the Qur'an or some combination of both or neither. Unless God comes waltzing out of heaven we will never know.clayron
I always imagined he would tango...Just goes to show you that beliefs can be different...
According to the Qur'an, both are. And obviously the bible doesn't say anything about the Qur'an. And the bible isn't a single book you know. There is the Torah and the Hebrew scriptures, and then the New Testament. Christians say that the Gospels fulfill the prophecy in the Hebrew scriptures. Nothing says that the Old Testament, New Testament, and Qur'an are mutually exclusive though.
[QUOTE="clayron"]Who the hell knows? Could be the bible or the Qur'an or some combination of both or neither. Unless God comes waltzing out of heaven we will never know.spazzx625
I always imagined he would tango...Just goes to show you that beliefs can be different... But the waltz is much more elegant. However, God is about flashiness so you may be right about him tango-ing.
Both books have many of the same stories. And both were transcribed by man and have errors since man is fallible. So to answer the question in my opinion neither one comes directly from god. It is up to us as mortal men and women to take the best ideas from the books and live by their example.
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="clayron"]Who the hell knows? Could be the bible or the Qur'an or some combination of both or neither. Unless God comes waltzing out of heaven we will never know.clayron
I always imagined he would tango...Just goes to show you that beliefs can be different... But the waltz is much more elegant. However, God is about flashiness so you may be right about him tango-ing. Dude, I think we just found the key to world peace.
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] I always imagined he would tango...Just goes to show you that beliefs can be different... But the waltz is much more elegant. However, God is about flashiness so you may be right about him tango-ing. Dude, I think we just found the key to world peace. Profit?
[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="clayron"] But the waltz is much more elegant. However, God is about flashiness so you may be right about him tango-ing. Dude, I think we just found the key to world peace. Profit? I sure hope so. Get your best suit, we're going to the UN.
They are both from God, with the bible preceding Quran. The problem with the bible is that there are a lot of different versions and according to the Quran, the early christians manipulated its contents. I know a lot wont agree or be happy with this, but this is what i believe in.
Having read both The Old Testament (Torah) depicts far more believable and flawed human characters. Those in the Koran are depicted as Perfect Muslims, it's just not believable for me. Thats not to say that The Torah is super believable though. And of course I'm just talking about literal interpretation.
They are both from God, with the bible preceding Quran. The problem with the bible is that there are a lot of different versions and according to the Quran, the early christians manipulated its contents. I know a lot wont agree or be happy with this, but this is what i believe in. GazaAli
Nothing wrong with believing in that. As a Christian, I honestly would not doubt it.
Has to be the Book of Mormon I mean he looked in a hat and was given some gold plates by some flying thing. I mean really you can't make this stuff up it has to be legit.
Why you believe the Bible is from God but not the Qur'an ?
I'm not currently in the mood for a long religious discussion that will end up changing neither of our minds. I believe in the divinity, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ as recorded by the Bible. Laugh if you will, but I do believe in the credibility of the New Testament. I do not believe the teachings of the Koran as I do not believe that the Muhammad was any sort of a divinely inspired prophet.
Both are derived from abrahamic religions. The books were written by humans but words of God. Thing is (im not trying to spark a debate), Bible has been tampered with over the centuries, while Quran has not.
Neither... considering they were both written by men. And due to humanity's "imperfect" nature, it would be impossible to perfectly recreate the Word of God, or possibly even understand it in the first place.
Having read both The Old Testament (Torah) depicts far more believable and flawed human characters. Those in the Koran are depicted as Perfect Muslims, it's just not believable for me. Thats not to say that The Torah is super believable though. And of course I'm just talking about literal interpretation.Meinhard1
The Old Testament is the Tenakh, actually; the torah is just the first five books.
Neither... considering they were both written by men. And due to humanity's "imperfect" nature, it would be impossible to perfectly recreate the Word of God, or possibly even understand it in the first place.
[QUOTE="GazaAli"] This is getting old, really old. Try and come up with better things.GazaAli
Only thing that is getting old is people believing in fairy tales and daddy figures.
I find it really pathetic that some people have the urge to mock others beliefs. I mean how much can someone be insecure :roll:
Why not? Would you take someone who has absolute faith in flying dragons or santa claus seriously? Religion is an enemy of humanity IMO. Throughout history, it only served to distrupt human advancement in science and government.
Only thing that is getting old is people believing in fairy tales and daddy figures.
argetlam00
I find it really pathetic that some people have the urge to mock others beliefs. I mean how much can someone be insecure :roll:
Why not? Would you take someone who has absolute faith in flying dragons or santa claus seriously? Religion is an enemy of humanity IMO. Throughout history, it only served to distrupt human advancement in science and government.
Then i assume you are a scientist who made incredible breakthroughs :roll: im going to do something better with my time and go to bed.
Only thing that is getting old is people believing in fairy tales and daddy figures.
argetlam00
I find it really pathetic that some people have the urge to mock others beliefs. I mean how much can someone be insecure :roll:
Why not? Would you take someone who has absolute faith in flying dragons or santa claus seriously? Religion is an enemy of humanity IMO. Throughout history, it only served to distrupt human advancement in science and government.
*Cough Islam was a pioneer of chemistry for hundreds of years cough*
You'd think enemies of humanity wouldn't have so many human followers. Like, you don't see 6.4 billion people praising disease or a nuclear holocaust.
Neither. Even if both started out as the true word of god... They have both been changed rewritten and translated so many times that what it was originally or meant to mean in the first place is completely gone
Only thing that is getting old is people believing in fairy tales and daddy figures.
argetlam00
I find it really pathetic that some people have the urge to mock others beliefs. I mean how much can someone be insecure :roll:
Why not? Would you take someone who has absolute faith in flying dragons or santa claus seriously? Religion is an enemy of humanity IMO. Throughout history, it only served to distrupt human advancement in science and government.
Funny how islam actually backs up some of the science, especially the biological part of humans. Just shows how little people know about Islam or any abrahamic religion. Its evident enough that majority of the people here are sucked into the press and believe anything that is thrown at them from their TV screen, and look what its lead to, stereotyping religions. A new world of racism :roll:
[QUOTE="GazaAli"] I find it really pathetic that some people have the urge to mock others beliefs. I mean how much can someone be insecure :roll:Disturbed123
Why not? Would you take someone who has absolute faith in flying dragons or santa claus seriously? Religion is an enemy of humanity IMO. Throughout history, it only served to distrupt human advancement in science and government.
Funny how islam actually backs up some of the science, especially the biological part of humans. Just shows how little people know about Islam or any abrahamic religion. Its evident enough that majority of the people here are sucked into the press and believe anything that is thrown at them from their TV screen, and look what its lead to, stereotyping religions. A new world of racism :roll:
Though as I recall Qur'an was supposed to be a copy of God's words.
dercoo
Unfortunately, even "God's Word" is subject to human misappropriation. Gerd Puin discovered a few decades ago, a "cemetery" for early Qur'anic manuscripts that differ from modern versions, highly enough to have alternate meanings and interpretations.
Neither. Even if both started out as the true word of god... They have both been changed rewritten and translated so many times that what it was originally or meant to mean in the first place is completely gone
VendettaRed07
thats actually not true. The arabic in the Quran remain the same till this day. Its merely the translations that are a little different with different use of words.
[QUOTE="GazaAli"] I find it really pathetic that some people have the urge to mock others beliefs. I mean how much can someone be insecure :roll:Disturbed123
Why not? Would you take someone who has absolute faith in flying dragons or santa claus seriously? Religion is an enemy of humanity IMO. Throughout history, it only served to distrupt human advancement in science and government.
Funny how islam actually backs up some of the science, especially the biological part of humans. Just shows how little people know about Islam or any abrahamic religion. Its evident enough that majority of the people here are sucked into the press and believe anything that is thrown at them from their TV screen, and look what its lead to, stereotyping religions. A new world of racism :roll:
The father of modern chemistry was a Mulim guy I forgot the name (Gaber ?)
Neither. Even if both started out as the true word of god... They have both been changed rewritten and translated so many times that what it was originally or meant to mean in the first place is completely gone
Disturbed123
thats actually not true. The arabic in the Quran remain the same till this day. Its merely the translations that are a little different with different use of words.
The same goes for the Greek and Hebrew of the Bible.
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