So, I am in big trouble. I guess :o (Please help)

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#1 Welis
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Okay this is a very big and "intense" story and I will try my best
to make a short version out of it. Please take note that english is
my second language and I am from Norway and such things happens very
often, but violence is considered "a big criminal act" or strict whatever in Norway.

So anyway, here is how the story goes:

I am vietnamese btw, and me, my sister and some friends were on a party
my brother and some of his fellow co-workers and friends established and
we were having a good time there and everything was fine. There were no
alcohol involved yet, so my health that night was okay. Then suddenly,
a guy in around 21 age old and he's vietnamese too appeared in drunk
and started to dance and do a lot of weird stuff. People wanted him out,
and the girls were creepd by his behaviour.So my brother asked him if

he could leave or behave himself atleast.So we gave him a chance, yet he still badly behaved himself and we were
force to remove him. So my brother asked if he could leave, and he slapped
a pizza slice at my brother's face, taunting him if he wanted to fight and such.
Then one of my brother's friend tried to kite the troublemaker out, and when
they were outside the guy fell on the ground and hurt himself. Then my brother
tried to help him up and then he turned and punch my brother in face. My brother enraged
and he tried to hold that guy back, he hit him once and kick him in the face once. So the
troublemaker was hurt, but nothing so biggie. And then I got kinda mad and gave that guy a
swift kick in the back, but I don't know if I hit him. I was told I hit someone else, and
was forgiven, though keep in mind it was dark and there were no light outside so it was
kinda hard to finger point who kick what. Then the troublemaker was sent to the hospital, and
we heard his sister called the police and put us in charge for this incident. Me and my brother
and some witness were sent in for investigations(I dunno what they call it in english). However,
we were questioned what happened that night one by one. Me and my brother told the police the
truth of what happened that night, but I lied about one thing and that is that I didn't kick the
guy but tried to stop the fighting by holding them both back. And here comes the worse part,
the witness are my brothers friends and they told they will support us 100% and they said they
didn't like that guy and was going to give him a lesson one day anyway. The police told me and
my brother that we kicked the guy 7 times in the face, hit him 6 times and threatened to kill him.
The troublermaker made it out of the hospital fine, and has been smiling and do his thing as some of
his friends told me.

This incident happened on November 11 2009 or something, not that accurate but
it was in November atleast. Now we will be in court June 9 this year, and I don't know what to do.
We are getting blackmailed by our own supporters and this is a nail in the coffin for me.
The worst case could happened to me is being imprisoned in 4 months for something so small like this.
Really apologized for the wall-of-text and my english, but I am so frustrated and annoyed by this. They
made it to be something so big when it is something that happens everyday.

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#2 Anti-Venom
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have fun in prison, no seriously its a fun place
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#3 Snakewiseman
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theres one of him more of you to corroborate your story also wasnt he drunk... you should def get your story straight he assaulted your brother with the pizza maybe your brother is experiencing some neck pain...

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#4 ex-mortis
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So, when you were being interrogated you told the police that you didn't kick him and yet it appears he had been beaten to death? Did you mention that there were other people there, that might've been responsible? Anyway, best of luck to you in court.

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Okay this is a very big and "intense" story and I will try my best
to make a short version out of it. Please take note that english is
my second language and I am from Norway and such things happens very
often, but violence is considered "a big criminal act" or strict whatever in Norway.

So anyway, here is how the story goes:

I am vietnamese btw, and me, my sister and some friends were on a party
my brother and some of his fellow co-workers and friends established and
we were having a good time there and everything was fine. There were no
alcohol involved yet, so my health that night was okay. Then suddenly,
a guy in around 21 age old and he's vietnamese too appeared in drunk
and started to dance and do a lot of weird stuff. People wanted him out,
and the girls were creepd by his behaviour.So my brother asked him if

he could leave or behave himself atleast.So we gave him a chance, yet he still badly behaved himself and we were
force to remove him. So my brother asked if he could leave, and he slapped
a pizza slice at my brother's face, taunting him if he wanted to fight and such.
Then one of my brother's friend tried to kite the troublemaker out, and when
they were outside the guy fell on the ground and hurt himself. Then my brother
tried to help him up and then he turned and punch my brother in face. My brother enraged
and he tried to hold that guy back, he hit him once and kick him in the face once. So the
troublemaker was hurt, but nothing so biggie. And then I got kinda mad and gave that guy a
swift kick in the back, but I don't know if I hit him. I was told I hit someone else, and
was forgiven, though keep in mind it was dark and there were no light outside so it was
kinda hard to finger point who kick what. Then the troublemaker was sent to the hospital, and
we heard his sister called the police and put us in charge for this incident. Me and my brother
and some witness were sent in for investigations(I dunno what they call it in english). However,
we were questioned what happened that night one by one. Me and my brother told the police the
truth of what happened that night, but I lied about one thing and that is that I didn't kick the
guy but tried to stop the fighting by holding them both back. And here comes the worse part,
the witness are my brothers friends and they told they will support us 100% and they said they
didn't like that guy and was going to give him a lesson one day anyway. The police told me and
my brother that we kicked the guy 7 times in the face, hit him 6 times and threatened to kill him.
The troublermaker made it out of the hospital fine, and has been smiling and do his thing as some of
his friends told me.

This incident happened on November 11 2009 or something, not that accurate but
it was in November atleast. Now we will be in court June 9 this year, and I don't know what to do.
We are getting blackmailed by our own supporters and this is a nail in the coffin for me.
The worst case could happened to me is being imprisoned in 4 months for something so small like this.
Really apologized for the wall-of-text and my english, but I am so frustrated and annoyed by this. They
made it to be something so big when it is something that happens everyday.

Welis

Big block of txt scares me.:shock: Sum it up in a sentance!

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Can't really say much but good luck in court and I would change the story to the truth during court but its upto you...

And get the best lawyer you can afford

Big block of txt scares me.:shock: Sum it up in a sentance!

KittenNipples

Him and his brother beat up a drunk who started a assault on now he is going to court and wants advice on how not to get put in jail

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#7 D-RS
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Gd luck man , worst case would be a fine....
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4 months in prison would be good for you. Meet new people and maybe learn a couple new skills, win-win situation if you ask me.
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#9 Strider_91
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@KittenNIpples... Someone was at his party.. wouldn't leave.. he says his brother was hit so they beat him.. and he kicked him.. person made out they hit him alot more...
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#10 muller39
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Get a good lawyer and tell the truth. You should be fine though since you said you only hit the dude a few times and he started the fight by punching your brother.

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Haha, so I'm not the only one kicking guys in the faces :lol: Okay, I really hope it turns out well for you guys. You sound like a nice guy and don't deserve to go to jail. I did the same thing today, but fortunately I'm not going to jail or anywhere...
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I don't know if you live in America or not but here you probably wouldn't go to jail. Probation is about the extent of it.

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Hmmm... strange story. If the guy went to hospital, shouldn't the doctors be able to tell he wasn't beat up as bad as he made it out to be?

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Haha, so I'm not the only one kicking guys in the faces :lol: Okay, I really hope it turns out well for you guys. You sound like a nice guy and don't deserve to go to jail. I did the same thing today, but fortunately I'm not going to jail or anywhere...Crimsader

I don't get it, is your country entirely devoid of any legal system?

Hmmm... strange story. If the guy went to hospital, shouldn't the doctors be able to tell he wasn't beat up as bad as he made it out to be?

NielsNL

He was... just not by the OP. I think.

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#15 BlindBluMonstah
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i read through all of that im angry there were no lols included :x :P hahs im joking but dont worry ! tell the people who are trying to blackmail you, that you'l go to the police, i think they might be forgetting blackmail is also a crime ! :] goodluck with everything

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I don't know if you live in America or not but here you probably wouldn't go to jail. Probation is about the extent of it.

0diN_7

He stated in his post that it was Norway.

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#17 hiphopballer
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tell them that he was drunk. he hit ur brother with a pizza. just tell the police the whole thing. dont leave things out because it could get worse

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#18 VaguelyTagged
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this is what you should have done

leaves no witnesses

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#19 Welis
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I thank you all for the wonderful and few funny posts. And to reply to some as I am really noob with the quote thingy, yes this is Norway by the way, and yes, I am trying to get a lawyer and getting a good lawyer is difficult in Norway since we don't have a good laywer :p And one or two persons misread the post I wrote, I didn't hit the guy, I only gave him a swift kick in the back even though I heard the other guy said I kicked someone else and not the troublemaker. Yet I lied to the police that I kicked him, I kinda regret and should told the truth. Anyhow, the witness are blackmailing me by telling the police we beat him several times and threatened to kill him. And that is true, blackmailing is a crime and I hope somehow I can show police evidence that our "supporters" or "witness" are trying to blackmail us. I don't want to go to jail, that would destroy my reputation and strongly dissapoint my parents and family. It would even destroy my life since I am a nice peaceful type of guy, a clown and only wants to spread joy. And this is my very first fight I've had in my life, if it counts as a fight at all. Luckily I have some great Gamespotters that are supporting and giving helpful advice, I really appreciate it guys. You eased my pain a little, I can atleast smile and not worry too much. Thank you...

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so you didn't threaten to kill the guy, but people said that you did threaten to kill him?

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Hmmm... strange story. If the guy went to hospital, shouldn't the doctors be able to tell he wasn't beat up as bad as he made it out to be?

NielsNL
Yes the doctor said that the guy was fine and all. No serious bruises, yet the police still believes what the witness are saying? The whole system is corrupted!
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Just hope that if you go to prison, you're the biggest man during your shower time.

But if at all possible, have your friends pool all of your nor-bucks or nor-dollars or something like that and get an impeccable lawyer.

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#24 Welis
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so you didn't threaten to kill the guy, but people said that you did threaten to kill him?

needled24-7
Yeah. The people aka witnesses told the police that me and brother did threaten to kill the person which is total bull.
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Hmmm... strange story. If the guy went to hospital, shouldn't the doctors be able to tell he wasn't beat up as bad as he made it out to be?

Welis

Yes the doctor said that the guy was fine and all. No serious bruises, yet the police still believes what the witness are saying? The whole system is corrupted!

well whatever you do, don't change your story, stick to everything you told the investigators.

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#26 Welis
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Just hope that if you go to prison, you're the biggest man during your shower time.

But if at all possible, have your friends pool all of your nor-bucks or nor-dollars or something like that and get an impeccable lawyer.

GHlegend77

Hmm.. That might be a good idea since I have some good friends that are willing to help out however they can. I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

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[QUOTE="Welis"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Hmmm... strange story. If the guy went to hospital, shouldn't the doctors be able to tell he wasn't beat up as bad as he made it out to be?

needled24-7

Yes the doctor said that the guy was fine and all. No serious bruises, yet the police still believes what the witness are saying? The whole system is corrupted!

well whatever you do, don't change your story, stick to everything you told the investigators.

But isn't it too late to regret? Well I only changed a small part of the story that I didn't kick the guy, if i told the police I lie about that they could even think that the whole story is a lie. The cake is a lie omg !
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Claim insanity and you'll be fine.

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[QUOTE="GHlegend77"]

Just hope that if you go to prison, you're the biggest man during your shower time.

But if at all possible, have your friends pool all of your nor-bucks or nor-dollars or something like that and get an impeccable lawyer.

Welis

Hmm.. That might be a good idea since I have some good friends that are willing to help out however they can. I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

No prob. :)

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have fun in prison, no seriously its a fun placeAnti-Venom
Agreed, and the guys there are all so charming, they will come at night and give you a kiss good night :3
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So my brother asked if he could leave, and he slapped a pizza slice at my brother's face

Welis

I'm sorry, I laughed. Also it's his fault, he provoked you guys first.

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#32 Welis
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[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]have fun in prison, no seriously its a fun placeSolid_Tango
Agreed, and the guys there are all so charming, they will come at night and give you a kiss good night :3

Help! Help! Please I have been told by friends and my sister that I have a big girly ass. No in seriousness, I do :S That's another reason why I don't want to head to prison.
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]have fun in prison, no seriously its a fun placeWelis
Agreed, and the guys there are all so charming, they will come at night and give you a kiss good night :3

Help! Help! Please I have been told by friends and my sister that I have a big girly ass. No in seriousness, I do :S That's another reason why I don't want to head to prison.

Oh boy....leave the country NOW.
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]have fun in prison, no seriously its a fun placeWelis
Agreed, and the guys there are all so charming, they will come at night and give you a kiss good night :3

Help! Help! Please I have been told by friends and my sister that I have a big girly ass. No in seriousness, I do :S That's another reason why I don't want to head to prison.

Claim insanity and you will be fine. But then again have fun with the courts, most laywers are bad anyway.......Claim to be an alchoholic, and you'll be forced to go to rehab instaed.
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Hmmm... strange story. If the guy went to hospital, shouldn't the doctors be able to tell he wasn't beat up as bad as he made it out to be?

Welis

Yes the doctor said that the guy was fine and all. No serious bruises, yet the police still believes what the witness are saying? The whole system is corrupted!

Dude, I live in Norway too, and that's not how it works here. The police will always consider a doctor's opinion; it puts a lot of weight in the scale.

edit: Guess I was right. Bull$hit story.

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#36 Snipes_2
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HE was drunk, He provoked you and he threw the first punch. I don't see how he could possibly convince the court that he was assaulted.