So i don't believe in God anymore...........

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I was raised in Christian home and my parents are very religious people. For a while its seemed difficult looking at the world and saying this made by some creator? And a lot of people including myself have these problems in life that don't seem to be solved by praying to some god thats probably not listening or was never there to begin with. My parents keeping saying it will get better we just need to pray, but thats not working and god isn't answering anything, in fact things get worse. I see all these people in the world and all around me suffer and wonder why doesn't god help them? If God's real then he sure plays favorites with people. But I've decided that there is no God and heaven. How am i going to tell my parents? I'm in 10th grade in high school and Im 16 so how can deal with this?

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#2 bededog
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Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.
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#3 ToastRider11
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Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.bededog
but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

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#4 Immortal--
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Whatever you do, don't say anything till you move out.
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#5 LJS9502_basic
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See I can't fathom the world occurring randomly myself...anyway....prayers were never intended to be Christmas lists of what we want. Nonetheless, sit down and have a talk with your parents in a calm, mature way.
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#6 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="bededog"]Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.ToastRider11

but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

Your telling me, just do what you want. Tell them if you want, dont tell them if you dont want to. I personally dont tell them because i have enough problems with them.
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#7 bededog
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[QUOTE="bededog"]Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.ToastRider11

but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

They'll just make you go to more church activities. They need to get the devil outta ya!
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my dad is catholic and my mom is protestent,i told them i was atheist and my relationship with them hasn't changed one bit

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#9 DamianAlexander
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You don't really need to deal with this at all. So you don't think there's a God, who cares? Life's what you make it, not what others want it to be. Find something that makes you happy and pursue it. You don't need a religion to be happy, and just because you're parents are religion doesn't default you to having to be so. Be an independent thinker. Find what answer to life best fits you, and answer that you believe in, and you'll be just fine.

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#10 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="bededog"][QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.bededog
but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

They'll just make you go to more church activities. They need to get the devil outta ya!

Only if they are strict christians. I got this "get the devil out of you" thing. But i did something much worse than just not belive in god.
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#11 v13_KiiLtz
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Ahh 15. When the rebellion start. :twisted:
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#12 GTbiking4life
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Let me put on my serious hat for a moment.

Although I disagree with your reasons for not believing, I respect your decision. You're not alone and many people make the same decision you have for the same reasons. With that said, no one on this board knows your family as well as you do. If you feel you can talk to them and they will respect your decision, then go for it. If you feel it will make things worse between you and your family, then you may want to wait for now. It all comes down to how comfortable you are talking with them openly about issues such as religion.

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#13 ToastRider11
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Let me put on my serious hat for a moment.

Although I disagree with your reasons for not believing, I respect your decision. You're not alone and many people make the same decision you have for the same reasons. With that said, no one on this board knows your family as well as you do. If you feel you can talk to them and they will respect your decision, then go for it. If you feel it will make things worse between you and your family, then you may want to wait for now. It all comes down to how comfortable you are talking with them openly about issues such as religion.

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hmm. Well from what you've said, I now know i have to wait till i'm out of the house. :P But I'm just curious what you don't agree with for me not believing.

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#14 kipohippo021
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Ahh 15. When the rebellion start. :twisted:v13_KiiLtz
13 for me, 14 for the serious stuff. I was a really effed up kid tbh. im 16 now, and i made alot of mistakes at 14... alot.
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#15 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="GTbiking4life"]

Let me put on my serious hat for a moment.

Although I disagree with your reasons for not believing, I respect your decision. You're not alone and many people make the same decision you have for the same reasons. With that said, no one on this board knows your family as well as you do. If you feel you can talk to them and they will respect your decision, then go for it. If you feel it will make things worse between you and your family, then you may want to wait for now. It all comes down to how comfortable you are talking with them openly about issues such as religion.

hmm. Well from what you've said, I now know i have to wait till i'm out of the house. :P But I'm just curious what you don't agree with for me not believing.

I think its because, you cant take the bible literally. God wont help you, but he will give you the chance to help yourself.
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#16 DarxPhil
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I too have parents that are beilevers in God, so of course i grew up beileving the same. As i got older though, i started to question more and starting seeing so many contridictions that come with beilving in God and it left me with so many question. From that point on i stayed on the the fence on the whole thing and still am on the fence. I don't fully beileve that there isn't a God, but then the Athiest side of me just can't cope with thinking theres an invisible man in the sky watching and judging me all the time. So really all i and the rest of us can do is wait for that day when we can find out..(and hopfully that's not anytime soon)

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#17 dontshackzmii
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Being is atheist is nothing to hide. There is no need to come out the closet . Just live your life and everyone els can shut it .

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I fail to understand this issue every time it comes up here. If you don't believe, then you don't believe. Your choice: -decide it is worth it to have arguments and tell them -decide you don't care enough to argue and wait till you leave home
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Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

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Sometimes I think people ask too much when they pray and expect too much from God. That's one of the reasons why I never do the prayer crap.

I have faith in God but I don't ask for a whole lot because I know it will get better the next day I don't even go to church or practice a religion, I see no point. It doesn't stop me from having faith though.

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#21 v13_KiiLtz
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14 for the serious stuffkipohippo021
You had a kid when you were 14? :| [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
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Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

GabuEx

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

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So is unanswered prayer the only reason you reject Christianity? Have you ever tried actually going into the Bible to see how you are to pray and what the purpose of prayer is even for?
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

ToastRider11

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

No there is not favorites. Everyone, believe it or not, has their own issues. It's easy to see someone from the outside and assume life is great...but that is rarely the reality.

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my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.ToastRider11
God does not give people what they want, only the oppurtunity. Though on a more serious note, don't tell your parents those reasons.
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#26 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]14 for the serious stuffv13_KiiLtz
You had a kid when you were 14? :| [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

Lol.... :|
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You are nothing but dust in the wind compare to god. Why should he care what you want? Just because life can be hard and you don't get what you want is not a very good reason not to believe. I am not saying you should but i have heard far better reasons not to . If there is some kind of plan for us. Then god going out of his way to give you stuff will only get in the way of the big picture .

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I fail to understand this issue every time it comes up here. If you don't believe, then you don't believe. Your choice: -decide it is worth it to have arguments and tell them -decide you don't care enough to argue and wait till you leave homerawsavon
parents are supposed to impose thier values on thier children. Its called socialization. Makes parents feel like a failure, havent you ever argued with your parents and been completley right? And all they say is "this discussion is over". They cant bear to be wrong.
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

ToastRider11

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Your reasons for not believing that God exists is because God plays favorites?

You don't find this statement a little... strange?

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#30 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I fail to understand this issue every time it comes up here. If you don't believe, then you don't believe. Your choice: -decide it is worth it to have arguments and tell them -decide you don't care enough to argue and wait till you leave homekipohippo021
parents are supposed to impose thier values on thier children. Its called socialization. Makes parents feel like a failure, havent you ever argued with your parents and been completley right? And all they say is "this discussion is over". They cant bear to be wrong.

Well most teens do believe they are right...then when they get older they find out mom and dad knew more than they thought they did. True story...
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#31 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

GabuEx

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Your reasons for not believing that God exists is because God plays favorites?

You don't find this statement a little... strange?

Oddly enough...He has to exist to play favorites.:P
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

ToastRider11

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Another reason not to believe in God, seeing that you're a Christian before is the religion itself. I find it hard to believe that we should follow the "Word of God" even though despite of the religion's good intentions they still teach homophobia, sexism, slavery and that's according to the Bible.
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#33 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

NerubianWeaver

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Another reason not to believe in God, seeing that you're a Christian before is the religion itself. I find it hard to believe that we should follow the "Word of God" even though despite of the religion's good intentions they still teach homophobia, sexism, slavery and that's according to the Bible.

Jesus taught nothing of the sort, and I think he's at least a somewhat influential figure in the religion...

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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

GabuEx

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Your reasons for not believing that God exists is because God plays favorites?

You don't find this statement a little... strange?

I think the point is that if God exists, he's kind of a dick for being all, "Poverty? Sounds cool to me!"

edit: genocide may be a better example, but whatever

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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

GabuEx

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Your reasons for not believing that God exists is because God plays favorites?

You don't find this statement a little... strange?

I mean no offense when I say this, but I think the topic creator doesn't speak English as his first language.
Playing favorites is perhaps, not the greatest way to word it, but I believe he's saying something along the lines that there is a lot of suffering in the world, If there were truly a god, he would not let certain peoples endure more than their fair share of atrocities in life, when letting others live seemingly fruitful happy lives with minimal pain and suffering.
If god is a perfect being, he should be treating all of his children somewhat equally. I see nothing wrong with his logic.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I fail to understand this issue every time it comes up here. If you don't believe, then you don't believe. Your choice: -decide it is worth it to have arguments and tell them -decide you don't care enough to argue and wait till you leave homekipohippo021
parents are supposed to impose thier values on thier children. Its called socialization. Makes parents feel like a failure, havent you ever argued with your parents and been completley right? And all they say is "this discussion is over". They cant bear to be wrong.

But there is nothing they can do in this situation...it is a belief, not an action. They can force him to go to church, but they cannot make him believe. Parents make kids do things they don't want to do all the time. I fail to see any issue here. Also, to answer your question...I was in charge of my household from the 9th grade till I left at 18...so no
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Do what i did and just deal with it. Also, read Atlas Shrugged. It is a very good book and you will learn something from it that will impact your life, most likely in a positive way.

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[QUOTE="bededog"]Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.ToastRider11

but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

Deal with it, seriously. You're still with them for two more years. They very well may make you attend more religious activities, not to mention create a strain on your relationship which would be terrible to constantly live with if you tell them. Placate them until you move out. I know it sucks, but talking to them could backfire in a big way, and when we're talking about religious convictions, many people are immovable and stubborn, especially when dealing with their own child of whom they want the best for. Up to you, but I'd advise against it and bite the bullet.

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#39 LJS9502_basic
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Always fascinating to see that people believe a specific age means one can automatically support them self.
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Don't you think that not believing just because you don't get what ever you want from God is a little selfish? I think you should stick to your old Christian beliefs although I am not here to make it worse for you and I hope you make the right decision.
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#41 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Why don't you first talk to your parents about your thoughts on the matter?

I mean, no offense, but not believing in God simply because God doesn't give you things you ask for when you pray sounds, well, odd (though not uncommon by any stretch).

LJS9502_basic

my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

No there is not favorites. Everyone, believe it or not, has their own issues. It's easy to see someone from the outside and assume life is great...but that is rarely the reality.

No, playing favorites is exactly what he does. Some people suffer much more intensely and more often than others. All suffer, yes, but some are definitely more favored than others.

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#42 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="ToastRider11"] my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Rekunta

No there is not favorites. Everyone, believe it or not, has their own issues. It's easy to see someone from the outside and assume life is great...but that is rarely the reality.

No, playing favorites is exactly what he does. Some people suffer much more intensely and more often than others. All suffer, yes, but some are definitely more favored than others.

Assumptions are not truths...
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i wouldnt mention it to them :P

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#44 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No there is not favorites. Everyone, believe it or not, has their own issues. It's easy to see someone from the outside and assume life is great...but that is rarely the reality.

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No, playing favorites is exactly what he does. Some people suffer much more intensely and more often than others. All suffer, yes, but some are definitely more favored than others.

Assumptions are not truths...

It's not an assumption. You think that everyone suffers equally? That some suffer more than others is pretty much the only truth in life I know.

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#45 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"] my reasons for not believing in God isn't because he doesn't give me what i want. Its because it seems he just playing favorites with people, and when people suffer and they go to him for praise and worship they get worse and he lets all these good things die out.

Rekunta

No there is not favorites. Everyone, believe it or not, has their own issues. It's easy to see someone from the outside and assume life is great...but that is rarely the reality.

No, playing favorites is exactly what he does. Some people suffer much more intensely and more often than others. All suffer, yes, but some are definitely more favored than others.

You're assuming that those who suffer less do so because God has arbitrarily made it so through direct intervention. That was a popular belief among the Jewish religious establishment in Jesus' day, who held that wealth and material comfort was a sign of divine favor, but it was also a belief that Jesus categorically rejected.

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#46 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="bededog"]Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.ToastRider11

but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

true, but at least you will be an educated atheist that can argue from both sides

and welcome to the club? I guess. Anyway, prepare yourself for a happier life free of needless guilt, pressure, etc.. Focus on humanity, not fiction.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

No, playing favorites is exactly what he does. Some people suffer much more intensely and more often than others. All suffer, yes, but some are definitely more favored than others.

Rekunta

Assumptions are not truths...

It's not an assumption. You think that everyone suffers equally? That some suffer more than others is pretty much the only truth in life I know.

You can't know unless you are all those people. There are different sufferings. And anyway....that is not God creating that. He left us to live as we would. It's part of being human.
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#48 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

[QUOTE="bededog"]Wait until you're out of the house to tell them. It just makes life a lot easier that way.mrbojangles25

but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

true, but at least you will be an educated atheist that can argue from both sides

and welcome to the club? I guess. Anyway, prepare yourself for a happier life free of needless guilt, pressure, etc.. Focus on humanity, not fiction.

Oddly I am happy and I don't go about feeling guilt or pressure.
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#49 rockerbikie
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Just say calmly I am questioning my faith and I need my space. Don't say that you are athiest.

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#50 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="ToastRider11"] but going to church and hearing all this christian stuff gets annoying.

LJS9502_basic

true, but at least you will be an educated atheist that can argue from both sides

and welcome to the club? I guess. Anyway, prepare yourself for a happier life free of needless guilt, pressure, etc.. Focus on humanity, not fiction.

Oddly I am happy and I don't go about feeling guilt or pressure.

that is cool, just understand I am making my comments based on observations, and your experiences likely differ from mine when dealing with Christians.

In my experience, Christianity prevents people from doing a lot of things; smoking, drinking, premarital sex, questioning authority, recreational drug use, homosexual relationships...all these things are perceived as bad because of our Christian-based culture, but in reality they really are not. Theyre in the grey area, and Christianity (again, in my experience), has zero tolerance for the grey area.

I do not hate religion, and I apologize if I came off as if I am bashing it (I can understand if you feel that way, I didnt really sugarcoat my opinion), but it is just how I feel, and it is relevant to my reality and the people I interact with.