So I got into a heated debate about music......

with one of my friends the other day. He linked me to a video of one of Dragonforce's new single/work in progress. I wasnt very impressed and it sounded boring to me which is MY OPINION of how it sounded. I did compliment the playing and that it was cleaner and the solo was good, however I jsut wasnt feeling it. And now mind you I have not been a dragonforce fan for many years since i have seen a live performance video and was dreadfully underwhelmed, so my dislike for them has been rooted back a few years. So with that being said I listened I evaluated and yeah they can play now, but its still boring to me and that it wasnt dynamic enough for me.

My freind said how can I not like them they are heavily influenced by Iron Maiden and Rhapsody of fire. I said I did not care for them either, and that I wasnt a fan of the overall sound. Now mind you I never said they were bad jsut that I didnt care for them. My friend said my taste in metal was broken becasue "How can you like the new without liking the old". I mean really? How hard is it to understand that its jsut not my cup of tea, that I prefer newer metal bands like Kamelot, or Galneryus, or metallica rather than older power metal bands. I love power metal but only certain bands.

Has anyone have any input. 2 cents, or has anyone experienced this before?

discuss.

All I can say is that taste and even talent is purely objective, even though some bands and artists actually are talented, such as Bowie. It's totally okay to acknowledge that and still dislike a band, as I do with most Beatles songs. If you don't like music, it just isn't suited to your taste. Almost like attraction.

All I can say is that taste and even talent is purely objective, even though some bands and artists actually are talented, such as Bowie. It's totally okay to acknowledge that and still dislike a band, as I do with most Beatles songs. If you don't like music, it just isn't suited to your taste. Almost like attraction.

Spitfirer

Precisely, and thats what I was saying. I said that it was boring to me and it wasn't dynamic enough for me. And my freind said good music doesnt have to have a ton of dynamics in order to sound good, which is valid but for specific songs or even styles of music, but when dynamics arent applied correctly or it has a lack of dynamics to make it sound good that is where it matters. that and the fact that the lyris for the mojority of Dragonforces songs are boring to me, mostly all the same, typical power/epic metal about dragons and fighting evil.

I like my metal Deeper and more poetic than the typical "the POWER IS BLINDING WIH POWER!!!" or however that lyric goes hahaha.

I forgot to say that your friend's a douche in my last post. I think that's all that had to be said, rather than repeat what you posted.

Hes a good person and hes cool, but when it comes to these debates he gets all up in arms. He was saying I was contradicting myself when I said Dragonforce wasn't dynamic enough although I listen to bands that don't have that dynamic of music. And again I said it depends on what Im listening to and what the end product sounds like. but yeah he was being a douche, and a close minded one at that. For him metal is all about speed and sounding cool (which is perfectly fine) but I like my metal more complex and deeper.

a music argument is ultimately an argument over personal opinions. Sounds like your friend needs to understand this.

a music argument is ultimately an argument over personal opinions. Sounds like your friend needs to understand this.

Serraph105

Pretty much yeah.

I don't think your friend can be reasoned with, this is something he will have to grow out of. He will one day realise that he's being totally irrational and stupid if he's as sound as you say. Sadly, I don't have the people skills or patience to deal with people like him.

your friend is dumb, he likes dragonforce, the obsession of 14 year old nerds everywhere.

Metallica is a newer metal band?

And this is why I hate going into OT's music threads, since it is a field where tastes are subjective and people act like it's objective.

all joking aside.. yeah, music is ALL taste. I actually enjoy some dragonforce.. I go from liking Attila to the biebs to lil wayne to black tideletlive4

And that is what I was pretty much sayin to my freind but he jsut kept on saying my opinion was "flawed" and that my taste was "broken" and that I will miss out on epic things, whatever he ment by that.

Metallica is a newer metal band?

worlock77

Metallica is a newer metal band?

worlock77

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Metallica is a newer metal band?

F1ame_Shie1d

No im not I just forgot to specify that. The last album I bought of theirs was Reload.

Yeah, you're friend's a douche bag. If he can't let you have an opinion, one way or another, than he's just someone that wants everyone to like what he likes.... douche. Keep your opinion-as long as it's how you feel, isht, there shouldn't be a problem...

I'm an OT regular.

Of course I have experienced this.This board is filled with people that get mad if you disagree with their opinion and list bands that aren't actually "metal".

I'm an OT regular.

Of course I have experienced this.This board is filled with people that get mad if you disagree with their opinion and list bands that aren't actually "metal".

Lto_thaG

Lol at the Dragonforce hating.

Anyone who has ventured past the sunny fields of power metal (that is, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Helloween and all that) should have met with dozens of utterly cheesy and crappy 'epic-themed' bands that make Dragonforce sound cool;

RoF at least are proficient in all their works. Dragonforce themselves are a pretty prominent power metal band, I'll have to give them that.

with o i have seen a live performance video and was dreadfully underwhelmed, so my dislike for them has been rooted back a few years. So with that being said I listened I evaluated and yeah they can play now, but its still boring to me and that it wasnt dynamic enough for me.

AkimboBFGNinja

Yeah, no...watch DF play live (not that they are great live, but most of the vids don't do 'em any justice), then form your own opinion.

If DF could ever play well, they did so on their first album, methinks.

Anyway, your friend sucks. Tell him to switch to dragonland, or something.

I am with you man. Metal has so many genres that I think its hard to say "You dont like good metal if you dont like _____" because you might like hundreds of other great bands. Then you say "I never said they were bad, I just do not like them" which idk why he does not understand that. I am a HUGE hip hop fan and there are plenty of classic artists that I am not a fan of but I recognize their importance.

Lol at the Dragonforce hating.

Anyone who has ventured past the sunny fields of power metal (that is, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Helloween and all that) should have met with dozens of utterly cheesy and crappy 'epic-themed' bands that make Dragonforce sound cool;

RoF at least are proficient in all their works. Dragonforce themselves are a pretty prominent power metal band, I'll have to give them that.

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with o i have seen a live performance video and was dreadfully underwhelmed, so my dislike for them has been rooted back a few years. So with that being said I listened I evaluated and yeah they can play now, but its still boring to me and that it wasnt dynamic enough for me.

Nude_Dude

Yeah, no...watch DF play live (not that they are great live, but most of the vids don't do 'em any justice), then form your own opinion.

If DF could ever play well, they did so on their first album, methinks.

Anyway, your friend sucks. Tell him to switch to dragonland, or something.

Well I did see a live video and was not very impressed, but hey thats just me.