So I'm gonna fail Organic Chemistry

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#1 tccavey2
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This sucks. I have to get a 95 on the final to pass and I don't see that happening. I've done farely well throughout college and this stupid class has thoroughly kicked my a$$. So tell me OT, does this F on my transcript ruin my chances of ever finding a decent job. *puffs on cigarette in shame*

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#2 FalcoLX
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I doubt it. Lots of people fail Organic Chem.

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#3 Dutch_Mix
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Why didn't you drop the class when there was still time?

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#4 thriteenthmonke
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I hear that's a hard class, and I don't think one F will ruin your chances at a job.
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#5 munu9
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Failing O Chem? I thought P chem was the major subject people failed at?
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#6 Avistann
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This is why I bailed from a chemistry major. I would be doing so bad in these classes.
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#7 D3nnyCrane
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Take courage in the fact that some of the greatest men and women in the world failed school.
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#8 rockguy92
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Failing O Chem? I thought P chem was the major subject people failed at?munu9
I thought just general chemistry all together.
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#9 Jono901
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Dude, sweet. I thought I was the only one. Excpet I wont fail. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with a C+ like last time. :/ Anyway, good luck man. I've got till friday to worry about that

Edit: Where do you go by the way? I'm always curious to see how other school's children are doing in chemisty

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#10 Morning_Revival
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It's CHEMISTRY. Of course youre going to fail.
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#11 tccavey2
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Why didn't you drop the class when there was still time?

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I was doing farely well in the beginning of the year but there were two tests after the drop period that were insanely hard and I did not do well on.

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#12 tccavey2
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Dude, sweet. I thought I was the only one. Excpet I wont fail. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with a C+ like last time. :/ Anyway, good luck man. I've got till friday to worry about that

Edit: Where do you go by the way? I'm always curious to see how other school's children are doing in chemisty

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Yeah me too. Final is Friday. I'm studying right now while on OT:P

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#13 pierst179
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Failing on some classes on College is pretty normal, so I don't think it ruins anyone chances of getting a job.

As a Computer Science student I heard Calculus I, Calculus II and Calculus III are a major pain, but I am already done with the first two without any problems (my grade on Calculus I was surprisingly high), but the third one is just terrible! And based on what I heard Operating Systems 2 is also very hard!

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#14 Famiking
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How is organic chermistry difficult, I don't get it :? Maybe it's because I'm still taking AS Chemistry...
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#15 metswonin69
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I wouldn't be too overly worried about failing it once. Just work very hard next semester and try and pull a B in the class the second time around! :)

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#16 TheMadGamer
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In all the many job interviews I've had, not once has any of the interviewers asked for my school grades.

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#17 Xbot_720
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you can do grade replacement opportunity and retake the class to replace your F with something better. Also, ive NEVER had a job ask for a diploma much less transcripts. They MIGHT ask your overall GPA though

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#18 tccavey2
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How is organic chermistry difficult, I don't get it :? Maybe it's because I'm still taking AS Chemistry...Famiking

I've always been pretty terrible at chemistry. Like I said, I'm NOT chem major, but I still have to take Orgo 1 and 2

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#19 Montaya
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Purposely break both your arms and beg for mercy by the professor and school administration, maybe they will give you some time to heal which you can use to study eventhough it will be twice as hard.

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#20 TheMadGamer
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Purposely break both your arms and beg for mercy by the professor and school administration, maybe they will give you some time to heal which you can use to study eventhough it will be twice as hard.

Montaya
Well that certainly is a doable solution...
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#21 Renegade_Fury
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I feel for you, ochem is a **** ****. If you retake it the new grade replaces the old one. Just try harder next time, though that is way easier said then done.

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How is organic chermistry difficult, I don't get it :? Maybe it's because I'm still taking AS Chemistry...Famiking
Comparing an exam designed for 16 and 17 year olds to a college degree is probably where you're going wrong.
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#23 gameguy6700
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I feel you. I'm still waiting to hear back on my grade. The class is curved quite significantly since just about everyone would fail otherwise (the professor who taught my section held the view that he could make the tests as difficult as he wanted as long as he curved the grades at the end of the year. As a result you get questions like "here's a drug. show how it works" or "you've never seen this mechanism before. Give the full arrow formulism"). I'm expecting to get a B- since that's what he told me I would probably get, but it could easily dip down into the C"s as well. I'm just hoping I did as well on the final as I thought I did since my grade is riding on that (basically if I did well I could have gotten a B. If I did terrible I could fail).

Anyway, an F in orgo could affect you in different ways depending on your goals. If you want to go to Harvard, that dream is pretty much over now. Indeed, it's going to be rough sailing now if you want to go to grad, med, dental, or pharm school. If that's your goal you need to retake the class, do much better, and make sure that the rest of your resume is of high caliber. Basically if the rest of your science GPA is high, your standardized test scores are high, and you have an impressive research background, then schools should look past the F. All that said, this is really something you should be talking to your guidance counselor about.

On the other hand, if you just wanted to get a job out of college, your employers aren't going to request a transcript so you're fine in that regard.

And of course there's always the emergency withdrawal although pulling it off either requires finding a doctor willing to go along with you on it, getting lucky in a very unfortunate way, or having some serious balls in order to make your own "luck".

You'll be happy to know though that my pre-med friends have talked to med students and doctors are our university (Emory) and they've all pretty much said that getting a good grade in orgo is very overrated. One med student said that he actually got C's in both semesters of orgo (keep in mind the fact that he's attending one of the best med schools in the country) and a doctor working at the university hospital told us that he didn't do well in orgo either but rarely uses it in his job anyway.

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#24 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]How is organic chermistry difficult, I don't get it :? Maybe it's because I'm still taking AS Chemistry...Ninja-Hippo
Comparing an exam designed for 16 and 17 year olds to a college degree is probably where you're going wrong.

How different can it be =_=
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#25 thepwninator
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It's CHEMISTRY. Of course youre going to fail.Morning_Revival
I got an F in computational engineering and a D in Electricity and Magnetism physics, but got an A+ in organic chemistry and a solid B in inorganic chemistry, which is a junior level chemistry course that I took as a freshman :P Not everyone is bad at chemistry. It's just that the people who're good at it suck at everything else :P
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#26 Ninja-Hippo
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How different can it be =_= Famiking


One is designed for young teenagers, the other designed for professional qualifications. They're vastly different.

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#27 lilasianwonder
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Yea from what I hear Orgo Chem is what seperates the men from the kids.

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#28 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"] How different can it be Ninja-Hippo


One is designed for young teenagers, the other designed for professional qualifications. They're vastly different.

One is designed for teenagers hoping to become chemists :P

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#30 CJL182
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Don't feel too bad about it. It's a difficult subject, but use it as motivation and study more the next time you take it. Your GPA will take a hit, but it won't be too bad. I failed my Microelectronics class last year, and it was my first F ever. It's one of the most difficult courses in our Electrical/Computer Engineering though, and the vast majority of people take it multiple times lol.

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#31 Tauruslink
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You guys are scaring me. I'm going to college this fall and I'm afraid I'll fail! :cry:
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Famiking"]How is organic chermistry difficult, I don't get it :? Maybe it's because I'm still taking AS Chemistry...Famiking
Comparing an exam designed for 16 and 17 year olds to a college degree is probably where you're going wrong.

How different can it be =_=

Loads different. Hundreds of hours of studying countless mechanisms all boiling down to 2-3 midterms designed for 3 hours, but given instead in 90 minute intervals each. Throw in crazies along with curves in a top university, and death doesn't look too bad in comparison.

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#33 CJL182
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You guys are scaring me. I'm going to college this fall and I'm afraid I'll fail! :cry:Tauruslink

What's your major? I'm totally biased, but I don't think anything is quite as bad as a Science/Engineering major lol. Study hard and you'll be fine.

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#34 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]You guys are scaring me. I'm going to college this fall and I'm afraid I'll fail! :cry:CJL182

What's your major? I'm totally biased, but I don't think anything is quite as bad as a Science/Engineering major lol. Study hard and you'll be fine.

Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:
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#35 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="CJL182"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]You guys are scaring me. I'm going to college this fall and I'm afraid I'll fail! :cry:Tauruslink

What's your major? I'm totally biased, but I don't think anything is quite as bad as a Science/Engineering major lol. Study hard and you'll be fine.

Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(
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Hmm.. I loved chemistry, but when it crossed into the realm of organic chemistry, it wasn't quite as fun.
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#37 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="CJL182"]

What's your major? I'm totally biased, but I don't think anything is quite as bad as a Science/Engineering major lol. Study hard and you'll be fine.

Renegade_Fury

Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(

Thats what I was afraid of....

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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="CJL182"]

What's your major? I'm totally biased, but I don't think anything is quite as bad as a Science/Engineering major lol. Study hard and you'll be fine.

Renegade_Fury

Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(

Lol yeah, I've always hated physics. That's interesting that you chose it even though you've never taken a physics class before lol. I really suggest taking your core Physics classes early on to see if you really want to stay with it. If not, it should be pretty easy to switch majors, especially if you decide on another Science/Engineering major since they require the core Physics courses anyway lol.

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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:Tauruslink

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(

Thats what I was afraid of....

lol I'm just saying that based on my own pathetic self, I'm sure you'll be fine. The key in order to beat these crazy classes is to get ridiculously ahead. By that I mean reading the whole text book during summer or winter break long before even the semester starts.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:Tauruslink

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(

Thats what I was afraid of....

Are you good at math? Like really good at math? If yes, you should be fine. If not, it's time to change your major.

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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:CJL182

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(

Lol yeah, I've always hated physics. That's interesting that you chose it even though you've never taken a physics class before lol. I really suggest taking your core Physics classes early on to see if you really want to stay with it. If not, it should be pretty easy to switch majors, especially if you decide on another Science/Engineering major since they require the core Physics courses anyway lol.

Yeah, physics is the ultimate enemy to me. I have an electric/magnetism exam next week and it's not looking good at all. Mechanical physics was bad enough, but this stuff is just insane to me...
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#42 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Physics. And I have never taken a physics class before. :cry:CJL182

Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(

Lol yeah, I've always hated physics. That's interesting that you chose it even though you've never taken a physics class before lol. I really suggest taking your core Physics classes early on to see if you really want to stay with it. If not, it should be pretty easy to switch majors, especially if you decide on another Science/Engineering major since they require the core Physics courses anyway lol.

Yeah lol. I don't know if I will stick with it yet, but I've always been really into science and technology. I really like science fiction stuff (like the movie Star Trek recently), and I want to be the guy that works to make those things into reality. I may switch over to mechanical engineering later, or something else. I'll have to wait and see what happens.
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#43 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] Physics? Sorry man you're doomed. :(gameguy6700

Thats what I was afraid of....

Are you good at math? Like really good at math? If yes, you should be fine. If not, it's time to change your major.

I'm ok at math....But I think I can do better if I try hard enough.
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#44 Guybrush_3
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Yeah I just made a D in o-chem. I had a borderline C and the final was insanely hard so that pulled me down to a D. I've never made a D in my life. I've only made 2 C's in college before. It ****ing sucks. Just retake it and make a better grade and it won't be a big deal.

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#45 CJL182
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[QUOTE="CJL182"]

Yeah, physics is the ultimate enemy to me. I have an electric/magnetism exam next week and it's not looking good at all. Mechanical physics was bad enough, but this stuff is just insane to me...Renegade_Fury

Good luck man. I think the most difficult aspect of E&M is that you can't really see it. Mechanical physics is easy to demonstrate, but E&M is way more conceptual. Do you have to take a third semester of physics? I had to take it as a pre-req for a core upper division Engineering class that was basically a statistics class, but then they dropped it as a pre-req right after I took it, so I basically took that damn physics class for nothing lol. The lab was such a pain in the ass because my professor wanted us to derive and calculate error for every frickin thing. I remember one lab report took everyone over 10 hours of error calculation alone. :( One unit labs are terrible lol.

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#46 Toriko42
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Worst case scenario is you end up like my chemistry teacher which really isn't that bad since he just became a teacher :?
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#47 Guybrush_3
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You guys are scaring me. I'm going to college this fall and I'm afraid I'll fail! :cry:Tauruslink

Unless you are going to major in some sort of engeneering your freshman year shouldn't be terrible. Just don't go nuts and study hard.

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#48 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="CJL182"]

Yeah, physics is the ultimate enemy to me. I have an electric/magnetism exam next week and it's not looking good at all. Mechanical physics was bad enough, but this stuff is just insane to me...CJL182

Good luck man. I think the most difficult aspect of E&M is that you can't really see it. Mechanical physics is easy to demonstrate, but E&M is way more conceptual. Do you have to take a third semester of physics? I had to take it as a pre-req for a core upper division Engineering class that was basically a statistics class, but then they dropped it as a pre-req right after I took it, so I basically took that damn physics class for nothing lol. The lab was such a pain in the ass because my professor wanted us to derive and calculate error for every frickin thing. I remember one lab report took everyone over 10 hours of error calculation alone. :( One unit labs are terrible lol.

Thanks man, I'll need all the luck I can get. :(

No only two for me since I'm taking the supposedly "easier" physics, but I don't see how so. We still need to use calc and what not, but whatever... I know physics majors have to take 3 courses, and I was actually in that curriculum before I transferred. I only wish I had finished all those classes before I came here, because it could not be this hard lol. Yeah, the shape stuff is just so vague to me and the labs are absolutely useless. They actually tell us to read it when we get there and expect us to turn it in when the period is over. It's just so stupid and I get nothing out of it... Oh and that sucks you took that class for nothing. I know my major is doing the same thing these days thanks to budget cuts.

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#49 deactivated-605ba7fd6332a
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If it makes you feel any better the mean on my last O. Chem exam was 41%, and I didn't even get that. :|

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#50 DJ_Lae
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How much is the final worth? If it's the standard 40-60% of the course grade, you must have known after the midterm that you weren't doing so hot (or you must have skipped it entirely), which in most universities is ample time to drop the course with no penalty and take it in a later term if it's required for your degree. Since it's too late for that, unless it's your only class and/or you're failing everything else, it won't have much of an impact on anything but your yearly GPA, which may or may not also have an impact on scholarships (assuming you have any) and your status in your program. I know GPA requirements vary from faculty to faculty, but they're generally quite lenient when it comes to failing the odd course. God knows I did.