So my brother's friend just stole my car...

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#1 theunloved
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He says he lent it out to him. But I bought it, pay for its insurance, etc. I didn't say he could take it. So should I call the police? Or just let it slide?

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#2 Razor-Lazor
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For now, let it slide. If he damages it, get the money from him or sue his ass.
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#3 Solid_Tango
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I would call the police if i ware you, if you let it *go* then he might do it more often :s
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#4 Dr_Brocoli
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iid call the police personally. cause if he runs someone over, you are responsilbe.

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#5 Pirate700
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Heck yeah you need to call the police. That's theft.

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#6 RushMetallica
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Call the police, your brother should know better.
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#7 Razor-Lazor
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iid call the police personally. cause if he runs someone over, you are responsilbe.

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Not exactly. :|
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#8 ScreamDream
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Umm, call your brother's friend on a cell phone? How old are you and your brother?

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#9 turbotoby95
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keep stealing from him but don't let him know until he gives back the car. But steal things he won't really notice much like $20 from his wallet and stuff from his room. And if he never notices his stuff missing, so be it ^_^
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#10 Pirate700
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iid call the police personally. cause if he runs someone over, you are responsilbe.

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Uhh...yeah, no he wouldn't be.

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#11 oneMoreComment
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If someone even so much as got in my car I would have SWAT all over that (joking); though if I could I would. But in all seriousness its in your best interest to report the car stolen, otherwise you can be the one held responsibile.

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#12 theunloved
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Umm, call your brother's friend on a cell phone? How old are you and your brother?

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I'm 23 and he's 18. We have a place together. His friend is 17. I think I'm gonna call the police....
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#13 Big_Bad_Sad
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If he is an ass phone the police. If he normally a nice guy just let it slide.
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#14 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

Umm, call your brother's friend on a cell phone? How old are you and your brother?

theunloved

I'm 23 and he's 18. We have a place together. His friend is 17. I think I'm gonna call the police....

I would do it now. I don't think you understand that this is grand theft auto. That's several years in prison.

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Beat him when you see him.

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#16 Razor-Lazor
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[QUOTE="theunloved"][QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

Umm, call your brother's friend on a cell phone? How old are you and your brother?

I'm 23 and he's 18. We have a place together. His friend is 17. I think I'm gonna call the police....

Does he have a cell phone? I would call that before you call the police. Just politely tell him to get his ass back to your place with the car. If he doesn't answer, or says no, then call the cops.
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#17 RiseAgainst12
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Tell him to bring it straight back or you'll call the police.. if he doesn't then call them. You are responsible for anything he does, if he gets caught you will pay for it. Honeslty it isn't worth your time letting it slide, atleast if you let the police know it was taking without your permission you wont be held responsible.

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#18 theunloved
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I did call him and he gave me an attitude. So...I'm calling the police. Be back.

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#19 spliffstar12
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dude its your **** brother just let it go this time why would you call the cops

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#20 Pirate700
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dude its your **** brother just let it go this time why would you call the cops

spliffstar12

His brother wasn't the one who stole the car. :|

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#21 Big_Bad_Sad
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Beat him when you see him.

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Also a good idea.
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#22 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

dude its your **** brother just let it go this time why would you call the cops

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His brother wasn't the one who stole the car. :|

i meant it was his brother that lent out the car. theirs no need to call the cops if it happens again or the car is **** up afterwards or some **** then go ahead but its not like some random dude jacked his car his little brother lent it out.

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#23 Pirate700
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So what did the police say?

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#24 Maqda7
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Call the cops.
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#25 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

dude its your **** brother just let it go this time why would you call the cops

spliffstar12

His brother wasn't the one who stole the car. :|

i meant it was his brother that lent out the car. theirs no need to call the cops if it happens again or the car is **** up afterwards or some **** then go ahead but its not like some random dude jacked his car his little brother lent it out.

I don't think you get it. There is no such thing as lending someone elses property. His friend stole the car. Ignorance holds no ground in court. :|

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#26 ScreamDream
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I did call him and he gave me an attitude. So...I'm calling the police. Be back.

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Good for you. Have your camera ready if you can and post some pics.

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#27 LanceA63
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is your brother directly involved in this situation?
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#28 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]His brother wasn't the one who stole the car. :|

Pirate700

i meant it was his brother that lent out the car. theirs no need to call the cops if it happens again or the car is **** up afterwards or some **** then go ahead but its not like some random dude jacked his car his little brother lent it out.

I don't think you get it. There is no such thing as lending someone elses property. His friend stole the car. Ignorance holds no ground in court. :|

so what? its his own **** brother who lent out the car and its probably the first time this has happened. some people are so quick to call the cops on their own family and friends its ridiculous. and dont forget his brother lent out the car so when you call the cops on the friend what happens to the brother?

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#29 theunloved
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is your brother directly involved in this situation?LanceA63
He's the one who handed him the keys. I have them hanging by the door to the garage.
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#30 Pirate700
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so what? its his own **** brother who lent out the car and its probably the first time this has happened. some people are so quick to call the cops on their own family and friends its ridiculous. and dont forget his brother lent out the car so when you call the cops on the friend what happens to the brother?

spliffstar12

Again, his brother didn't "lend" out anything. There is no lending out someone elses property. His friend will be charged with grand theft if this story is true.

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#31 theunloved
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So what did the police say?

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They said they would keep an eye out and they have a patrol car up in his area. So they'll drive around and look.
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#33 theunloved
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

so what? its his own **** brother who lent out the car and its probably the first time this has happened. some people are so quick to call the cops on their own family and friends its ridiculous. and dont forget his brother lent out the car so when you call the cops on the friend what happens to the brother?

Pirate700

Again, his brother didn't "lend" out anything. There is no lending out someone elses property. His friend will be charged with grand theft if this story is true.

Its true. The main reason why its a big deal is the fact I'm moving to Cali this October and I'd like my car to be in the shape its in since I'm driving it the whole way there.

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#34 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

so what? its his own **** brother who lent out the car and its probably the first time this has happened. some people are so quick to call the cops on their own family and friends its ridiculous. and dont forget his brother lent out the car so when you call the cops on the friend what happens to the brother?

Pirate700

Again, his brother didn't "lend" out anything. There is no lending out someone elses property. His friend will be charged with grand theft if this story is true.

ok so when the friend tells the police the brother gave him the keys what happens to the brother. and im not talking from a legal point about lending out the car im talking from common sense the brother obviously lent out the car.
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Call the cops

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#36 LJS9502_basic
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Give him a call and tell him to bring it back.
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#37 ScreamDream
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"] i meant it was his brother that lent out the car. theirs no need to call the cops if it happens again or the car is **** up afterwards or some **** then go ahead but its not like some random dude jacked his car his little brother lent it out.

spliffstar12

I don't think you get it. There is no such thing as lending someone elses property. His friend stole the car. Ignorance holds no ground in court. :|

so what? its his own **** brother who lent out the car and its probably the first time this has happened. some people are so quick to call the cops on their own family and friends its ridiculous. and dont forget his brother lent out the car so when you call the cops on the friend what happens to the brother?

He called his brother's friend on the cell phone. His brother's friend gave him an attitude. Calling the cops is the right thing. He does not want any damage to his car. This is not like he is borrowing his pocket knife. Calling the police is the right thing to do unless you know somebody that will pay for the damages or the owner of the car has money he can thow away.

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#38 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

so what? its his own **** brother who lent out the car and its probably the first time this has happened. some people are so quick to call the cops on their own family and friends its ridiculous. and dont forget his brother lent out the car so when you call the cops on the friend what happens to the brother?

spliffstar12

Again, his brother didn't "lend" out anything. There is no lending out someone elses property. His friend will be charged with grand theft if this story is true.

ok so when the friend tells the police the brother gave him the keys what happens to the brother. and im not talking from a legal point about lending out the car im talking from common sense the brother obviously lent out the car.

The TC does not have to press charges against the brother. The second the friend took the keys and rode off, he committed theft. The brother didn't break any law.

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#39 LJS9502_basic
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The TC does not have to press charges against the brother. The second the friend took the keys and rode off, he committed theft. The brother didn't break any law.

Pirate700

Technically his brother is implicated since he stole the keys to start with.....

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#40 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

The TC does not have to press charges against the brother. The second the friend took the keys and rode off, he committed theft. The brother didn't break any law.

LJS9502_basic

Technically his brother is implicated since he stole the keys to start with.....

The TC said he hangs the keys in the garage they both own. That would mean the brother didn't steal any keys. Either way, the brother would be smart to deny handing him the keys.

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#41 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

The TC does not have to press charges against the brother. The second the friend took the keys and rode off, he committed theft. The brother didn't break any law.

Pirate700

Technically his brother is implicated since he stole the keys to start with.....

The TC said he hangs the keys in the garage they both own. That would mean the brother didn't steal any keys. Either way, the brother would be smart to deny handing him the keys.

Uh....taking something that isn't yours is theft. His brother has no right to keys just because they both own the garage. The friend will say the brother gave him keys...and he thought the car was his. Therefore, they can't prosecute him without also prosecuting the brother. I find the brother more culpable.

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#42 duxup
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Again, his brother didn't "lend" out anything. There is no lending out someone elses property. His friend will be charged with grand theft if this story is true.

Pirate700

I know some folks who work at a bank. Maybe they'll "lend" me some of the bank's money without the bank's permission...?

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Uh....taking something that isn't yours is theft. His brother has no right to keys just because they both own the garage. The friend will say the brother gave him keys...and he thought the car was his. Therefore, they can't prosecute him without also prosecuting the brother. I find the brother more culpable.

LJS9502_basic

The friend has zero excuse. By law the friend has the responsibility to know who's car he is taking. Ignorance hold no ground in any court in the US. The brother may be responsible for helping but the friend has 100% responsibility to know who's property he is leaving with. It's like on Cops when someone get's pulled over with someone elses car and they get busted for the drugs in the car even when they didn't know it was there. It's their responsibility.

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#44 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Uh....taking something that isn't yours is theft. His brother has no right to keys just because they both own the garage. The friend will say the brother gave him keys...and he thought the car was his. Therefore, they can't prosecute him without also prosecuting the brother. I find the brother more culpable.

Pirate700

The friend has zero excuse. By law the friend has the responsibility to know who's car he is taking. Ignorance hold no ground in any court in the US. The brother may be responsible for helping but the friend has 100% responsibility to know who's property he is leaving with. It's like on Cops when someone get's pulled over with someone elses car and they get busted for the drugs in the car even when they didn't know it was there. It's their responsibility.

Uh...if I give you keys to a car, says it mine and you can use it......do you believe you should be arrested and prosecuted for the theft if I "borrowed" the keys? The person who takes the keys is the initial thief. His brother is responsible.

As for drugs.....the owner of the vehicle can be charged as well.

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#45 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Again, his brother didn't "lend" out anything. There is no lending out someone elses property. His friend will be charged with grand theft if this story is true.

duxup

I know some folks who work at a bank. Maybe they'll "lend" me some of the bank's money without the bank's permission...?

:lol: Yeah and I think I'll lend myself my neighbor's truck.

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#46 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Uh....taking something that isn't yours is theft. His brother has no right to keys just because they both own the garage. The friend will say the brother gave him keys...and he thought the car was his. Therefore, they can't prosecute him without also prosecuting the brother. I find the brother more culpable.

LJS9502_basic

The friend has zero excuse. By law the friend has the responsibility to know who's car he is taking. Ignorance hold no ground in any court in the US. The brother may be responsible for helping but the friend has 100% responsibility to know who's property he is leaving with. It's like on Cops when someone get's pulled over with someone elses car and they get busted for the drugs in the car even when they didn't know it was there. It's their responsibility.

Uh...if I give you keys to a car, says it mine and you can use it......do you believe you should be arrested and prosecuted for the theft? The person who takes the keys is the initial thief. His brother is responsible.

If I'm stupid enough to beleive you and do so, yes. It's the law LJ. Possesion is 9/10 of the law and he has 100% of the responsibility to know what he's "borrowing".

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Ask for the car back and explain the situation. If that fails, call the cops :P
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Call the police, stealing isn't funny..... my ex roommate and his friend were trying to teal my car once luckily I caught them. I dont talk to him since.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]The friend has zero excuse. By law the friend has the responsibility to know who's car he is taking. Ignorance hold no ground in any court in the US. The brother may be responsible for helping but the friend has 100% responsibility to know who's property he is leaving with. It's like on Cops when someone get's pulled over with someone elses car and they get busted for the drugs in the car even when they didn't know it was there. It's their responsibility.

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Uh...if I give you keys to a car, says it mine and you can use it......do you believe you should be arrested and prosecuted for the theft? The person who takes the keys is the initial thief. His brother is responsible.

If I'm stupid enough to beleive you and do so, yes. It's the law LJ. Possesion is 9/10 of the law and he has 100% of the responsibility to know what he's "borrowing".

But that is not prosecuted if you can prove that you were told the car belonged to the person that gave permission...and keys. He would ultimately be prosecuted.

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#50 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Uh...if I give you keys to a car, says it mine and you can use it......do you believe you should be arrested and prosecuted for the theft? The person who takes the keys is the initial thief. His brother is responsible.LJS9502_basic

If I'm stupid enough to beleive you and do so, yes. It's the law LJ. Possesion is 9/10 of the law and he has 100% of the responsibility to know what he's "borrowing".

But that is not prosecuted if you can prove that you were told the car belonged to the person that gave permission...and keys. He would ultimately be prosecuted.

I said the brother could be in trouble too which is why I said if his brother know's what's good for him, he will deny handing over the keys. Either way the friend IS 100% responsible for stealing the car though. Again, I didn't know, is not an excuse in court.