Someone prove to me that there's an unconscious mind...

... shoot, and good luck.

What? Some people go unconcious, yeah.

Talk to anyone that thinks Freud knew what he was talking about. Nothing is unconscious. You cannot do something and hide it from yourself. If you deny something, that is not the same as being unconscious of it. When you sleep, your mind is still processing things, sometimes more so than when you're awake. That's how you retain information, but getting it from short term to long term memory during REM.

Are you breathing? Did you have to think about it to breath? No? Ok.GettingTired

This is not an unconscious act. Just becuase you do not have to think about it, does not mean you are unaware of it. You know that you breathe, right? The definition of unconcsious with "without awareness, sensastion, or cognition". Clearly you sense that you breathe, and are aware of it.

Are you breathing? Did you have to think about it to breath? No? Ok.GettingTired

You sir are... wait, don't want to get modded.

I'm just going to throw this out here: I don't think bodily functions are controlled by thoughts... it's more like: thoughts are controlled by bodily functions.

Uh... I don't know where you've been, but Freud has basically been dismissed as a psychologist. His theories are all mainly inane, as well as sex-laden. Why he believed that young kids were in love with their mother/father and hated the other is beyond me.dreDREb13

Uh... I'm sorry, but Freud did not come up with the unconcious mind, Riegel did. There have been several psychologists and the like who have believed that there was such a thing as the unconcious mind.

Does your heart beat? Then that is technically considered your unconscious mind. There.

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"]Uh... I don't know where you've been, but Freud has basically been dismissed as a psychologist. His theories are all mainly inane, as well as sex-laden. Why he believed that young kids were in love with their mother/father and hated the other is beyond me.wintermute0

Uh... I'm sorry, but Freud did not come up with the unconcious mind, Riegel did. There have been several psychologists and the like who have believed that there was such a thing as the unconcious mind.

Um, read what I said. I said talk to anyone who THINKS Freud is a genius. I don't. He's an idiot. And Riegel came up with is, but it was Freud who was the first one to say our thoughts and actions were controlled by UNCONSCIOUS sexual drives and such. Psychoanalysts believe there is an unconscious mind for the most part, and they are the main branch with no significant research to back them up. Which is why behaviorists, socioculturists and the like are more widely accepted. Trust me, there are plenty of people who still think Freud is the best thing that happened to this world. I will give him credit though for realizing that chidlren are different than adults, and that everyone is going to have sex and we need to get over it...well, Kinsey did that too I suppose.

Does your heart beat? Then that is technically considered your unconscious mind. There.

clubsammich91

lolwut. you're obviously not qualified for this. :roll:

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Are you breathing? Did you have to think about it to breath? No? Ok.wintermute0

You sir are... wait, don't want to get modded.

I'm just going to throw this out here: I don't think bodily functions are controlled by thoughts... it's more like: thoughts are controlled by bodily functions.

Does your heart beat? Then that is technically considered your unconscious mind. There.

clubsammich91

We've pretty much ruled out bodily functions as being unconsicous. Please actually look up the definition. If you have any awareness, sensation, or cognition of the process is isn't unconscious. You are aware of your heart beating, you know it beats, and you can feel it. No unconscious mind there, sorry.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Does your heart beat? Then that is technically considered your unconscious mind. There.

wintermute0

lolwut. you're obviously not qualified for this. :roll:

Agreed. :)

Uh... I don't know where you've been, but Freud has basically been dismissed as a psychologist. His theories are all mainly inane, as well as sex-laden. Why he believed that young kids were in love with their mother/father and hated the other is beyond me.dreDREb13

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Are you breathing? Did you have to think about it to breath? No? Ok.NightEyes7

This is not an unconscious act. Just becuase you do not have to think about it, does not mean you are unaware of it. You know that you breathe, right? The definition of unconcsious with "without awareness, sensastion, or cognition". Clearly you sense that you breathe, and are aware of it.

[QUOTE="wintermute0"]

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Are you breathing? Did you have to think about it to breath? No? Ok.GettingTired

You sir are... wait, don't want to get modded.

I'm just going to throw this out here: I don't think bodily functions are controlled by thoughts... it's more like: thoughts are controlled by bodily functions.

There is really only one true definiton of consciousness. And, depending on what your philosophy is on why we do what we do, and how we think, instincts can be nothing but cognitive processes in your brain being sorted so fast that it may seem like instinct, but was really careful consideration.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Does your heart beat? Then that is technically considered your unconscious mind. There.

wintermute0

lolwut. you're obviously not qualified for this. :roll:

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"] Thanks to his work, later psychologists expanded upon his theories and came up with some interesting new ideas. He basically laid the groundwork for later psychoanalysis. [QUOTE="NightEyes7"]

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Are you breathing? Did you have to think about it to breath? No? Ok.Saturos3091

This is not an unconscious act. Just becuase you do not have to think about it, does not mean you are unaware of it. You know that you breathe, right? The definition of unconcsious with "without awareness, sensastion, or cognition". Clearly you sense that you breathe, and are aware of it.

It depends on if you believe there is an unconscious mind, which, I do not. Psychoanalysis is BS in my opinion, and concealed desires even more so. I do not hide anything from my brain. It knows everything. I have no hidden phobias, I know all of them.

Who is John Galt? Move along people, nothing to see here. Its something that can't be proved or disproved.

[QUOTE="wintermute0"]

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"]Uh... I don't know where you've been, but Freud has basically been dismissed as a psychologist. His theories are all mainly inane, as well as sex-laden. Why he believed that young kids were in love with their mother/father and hated the other is beyond me.NightEyes7

Uh... I'm sorry, but Freud did not come up with the unconcious mind, Riegel did. There have been several psychologists and the like who have believed that there was such a thing as the unconcious mind.

Um, read what I said. I said talk to anyone who THINKS Freud is a genius. I don't. He's an idiot. And Riegel came up with is, but it was Freud who was the first one to say our thoughts and actions were controlled by UNCONSCIOUS sexual drives and such. Psychoanalysts believe there is an unconscious mind for the most part, and they are the main branch with no significant research to back them up. Which is why behaviorists, socioculturists and the like are more widely accepted. Trust me, there are plenty of people who still think Freud is the best thing that happened to this world. I will give him credit though for realizing that chidlren are different than adults, and that everyone is going to have sex and we need to get over it...well, Kinsey did that too I suppose.

It depends on if you believe there is an unconscious mind, which, I do not. Psychoanalysis is BS in my opinion, and concealed desires even more so. I do not hide anything from my brain. It knows everything. I have no hidden phobias, I know all of them.

NightEyes7

This thread has me confused. What exactly are you asking for when you say "unconcious mind?"