Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
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Is there any evidence that Jesus is not the son of God?Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
I_Am_Sexy
The virgin birth (how else does that happen), his miracles and stuff. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc)
This is what i believe is the evidence.
Back in Jesus's time they did a DNA test and found out that God was Jesus's true father. Duh!
Shad0ki11
Ah, I remember that episode. Maury is a great show.
[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]I think there was a Resurrection and him curing blindness and leprosy. I don't beileve in that but I think Christians do.I_Am_Sexy
Those things don't prove he was the son of God, if they even happened at all it could just be that he was a special guy LOL
Like I said, I don't beileve it.Back in Jesus's time they did a DNA test and found out that God was Jesus's true father. Duh!:roll:
:P
I'm just kidding.
Shad0ki11
In the case of Yehoshua of Nazareth; God, you ARE the father!
[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]Back in Jesus's time they did a DNA test and found out that God was Jesus's true father. Duh!
Shad0ki11
Ah, I remember that episode. Maury is a great show.
I've never watched Maury. :|
Joke. Apparently you aren't familiar with the show.
[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]Back in Jesus's time they did a DNA test and found out that God was Jesus's true father. Duh!
wallymartin
Ah, I remember that episode. Maury is a great show.
I've never watched Maury. :|
Joke. Apparently you aren't familiar with the show.
I know of the show, but I've never watched it. Nor does it interest me.
Must have cracked a used joke by mistake. Ah well.
[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]I think there was a Resurrection and him curing blindness and leprosy. I don't beileve in that but I think Christians do.I_Am_Sexy
Those things don't prove he was the son of God, if they even happened at all it could just be that he was a special guy LOL
If you're going to try to ask a serious question, don't laugh at what other people believe. It's rude.[QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
Zero5000X
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Back in Jesus's time they did a DNA test and found out that God was Jesus's true father. Duh!:roll:
Shad0ki11
yeah it was the highest rated episode of maury ever. god was like totally enraged when he found out he was the father and had to pay child support.
[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]Is there any evidence that Jesus is not the son of God?Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
I_Am_Sexy
Then I'm the son of God, there's no evidence that I'm not
Does he pay child support?
[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]Is there any evidence that Jesus is not the son of God?Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
I_Am_Sexy
Then I'm the son of God, there's no evidence that I'm not
thats not a good argument. he's just asking if there's any evidence he's not the son of God because if there's not then at the least he could be
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
metaldude05
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]Is there any evidence that Jesus is not the son of God?Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
metaldude05
Then I'm the son of God, there's no evidence that I'm not
thats not a good argument. he's just asking if there's any evidence he's not the son of God because if there's not then at the least he could be
actually your argument is not good enough, because "could be" isn't good enough to build an entire belief system on LOLZ
[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
links136
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
and I am Satan's father. I don't need proof, just have faith in me LOL[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]Is there any evidence that Jesus is not the son of God?Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
metaldude05
Then I'm the son of God, there's no evidence that I'm not
thats not a good argument. he's just asking if there's any evidence he's not the son of God because if there's not then at the least he could be
A lot of things "could be", but without anything to back it up, any reasonable person would wave it off as being fiction.
[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
links136
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
You got a link to that statement?
[QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
I_Am_Sexy
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
and I am Satan's father. I don't need proof, just have faith in me LOLAnd i'm your father and your mother is both Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie. PROVE IT WRONG
[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]Is there any evidence that Jesus is not the son of God?Is there any evidence that Jesus was Gods son other than him just saying so?
MindFreeze
Then I'm the son of God, there's no evidence that I'm not
thats not a good argument. he's just asking if there's any evidence he's not the son of God because if there's not then at the least he could be
A lot of things "could be", but without anything to back it up, any reasonable person would wave it off as being fiction.
bro that's what I just told him. did you just copy me and change the words around LOL
[QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
Sam_Phisher
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
You got a link to that statement?
You can't prove it wrong OTHER WISE IT COULD BE
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
metaldude05
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
But I didn't say they were right or wrong. You're the one making the claim and thus the burden of proof falls on you.
[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
links136
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
and I am Satan's father. I don't need proof, just have faith in me LOLAnd i'm your father and your mother is both Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie. PROVE IT WRONG
That's crazy because then it would mean that I want to nail my mom. both of them. LOL
[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
links136
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
and I am Satan's father. I don't need proof, just have faith in me LOLAnd i'm your father and your mother is both Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie. PROVE IT WRONG
That would actually be pretty easily refuted, provided I have the appropriate DNA tests.
[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
links136
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
No because i was just saying what Christians believe. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevant my friend. and i can't prove you wrong but you also can't prove me wrong. does that make either of us right not necissarily but basically all i was asking is if he had any proof since thats what he was asking me for
[QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
MindFreeze
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Other wise Satan is actually Gods father because I said so. Prove it wrong.
and I am Satan's father. I don't need proof, just have faith in me LOLAnd i'm your father and your mother is both Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie. PROVE IT WRONG
That would actually be pretty easily refuted, provided I have the appropriate DNA tests.
NO BECUASE I AM GOD. I MAGICALLY MADE THEM BOTH PREGNANT TO GIVE BIRTH TO ONE CHILD. PROVE IT WRONG
[QUOTE="metaldude05"]There is proof. People knew Jesus was a real person, and his enemies the Jews admit he did miracles.The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
Zero5000X
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]There is proof. People knew Jesus was a real person, and his enemies the Jews admit he did miracles.The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
hydralisk86
Jesus was Jewish. It wasn't because they were Jewish that they were his enemies. It's just that they didn't believe he was the son of God.
[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
Zero5000X
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
But I didn't say they were right or wrong. You're the one making the claim and thus the burden of proof falls on you.
how many times do i have to say this. the burden of proof doesn't really make sense to apply here. you are making an opposite claim so we share the burden of proof. you have it to prove to me that God doesnt exist since thats what i believe and vice versa.plus in my original post i was just posting what christians believe, i wasnt stating right or wrong even though that is my belief. sorry if i confused you
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]There is proof. People knew Jesus was a real person, and his enemies the Jews admit he did miracles.The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
hydralisk86
I know i'm the father of satan, and he fathered God, and he fathered Jesus, and he fathered hitler and he fathered your father and you are the grandson of hitler and I guess i'm getting a little too carried away but you get my point, Theres no conclusive evidence.
[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]There probably isn't a definite proof, because it denies faith. If people had specific proof then they wouldn't have the free will to believe or not.Ok, so all this arguing aside, is there proof or not
if not, why are people believing it?
FalcoLX
how does free will come into this? if there was proof and they knew for sure, they could still use free will to worship or not, or to choose between ham or turkey at the deli
but now I have another question, why are people believing in anything where only faith can be used? don't people want proof? it's better than just hoping you're right, right? LOL
[QUOTE="hydralisk86"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]There is proof. People knew Jesus was a real person, and his enemies the Jews admit he did miracles.The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
Shad0ki11
Jesus was Jewish. Jewish people weren't his enemies.
i think he's refering to when they crucified him. One of the reasons for crucifying him was because he did miracles
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="metaldude05"]The virgin birth (how else does that happen) proof?
, his miracles and stuff proof?
. The ressurection and his divine nature (being sinless, etc) proof?
This is what i believe is the evidence. but you didn't provide any evidence...
metaldude05
ok this is what the bible claims. i guess i was answering on the behalf of why christians believe that. i don't argue much anymore since we will just go in circles. if you can give any proof against any of those claims i would be gratefull though
But I didn't say they were right or wrong. You're the one making the claim and thus the burden of proof falls on you.
how many times do i have to say this. the burden of proof doesn't really make sense to apply here. you are making an opposite claim so we share the burden of proof. you have it to prove to me that God doesnt exist since thats what i believe and vice versa.plus in my original post i was just posting what christians believe, i wasnt stating right or wrong even though that is my belief. sorry if i confused you
I didn't make any claims. I just asked you to back up your claims. I don't know if it's true or not.
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