Southern pride.....i dont get it

I dont get why people in the south (not all of them, but many nonetheless)are so supportive of a doctrine of defiance, opression, and racism.

I mean, waving that confederate flag & all means your supporting a past of slavery (no need to explain why thats bad), defiance of legal elections (south lost presidency to abraham lincoln, even after not putting his name on their ballots, and then seceding after they didnt get who they wanted to win), deep rooted racism, love for a short-lived countrythat was both politically and militarily (is that a word?)a failure, and a whole bunch of other stuff that makes many americans see the south as a bunch of general "rednecks"

i mean, why do it? is there really something from that you can draw pride from? (that the rest of society would understand)

i mean, i dont hate southern people (love'em in fact) but thats tupid confederate flag, white priveledge stuff really gets me wondering how we still let those kinds of people exist >_>

same reason for all the terrorists around the world... people are brought up to believe certain things and don't know any better

I would say a very small fraction support, as you say "defiance, oppression, and racism". Not any larger percentage than any other part of the country. Why single out a specific group?

I dont get why people in the south (not all of them, but many nonetheless)are so supportive of a doctrine of defiance, opression, and racism.

uberbra

I've been wondering that for a while, too. I don't know if I've found the answer, but I think it depends on each person's ego.

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"]I live in the south :|West-Coast-G

[QUOTE="uberbra"]

I dont get why people in the south (not all of them, but many nonetheless)are so supportive of a doctrine of defiance, opression, and racism.

xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="uberbra"]

I dont get why people in the south (not all of them, but many nonetheless)are so supportive of a doctrine of defiance, opression, and racism.

thepwninator

I live in the South, but not really. Miami isn't really considered the South...

Anyway, I agree about the flags and stuff, but I do love "southern" things. I love me some "ya'lls" and Paula Deen, honey.

Conservatives claim they are "keeping traditional values", but really they are protecting our primitive ways of the past. Progression ftw.Famiking

Not all progress is good :P

I'd say most of the progress in economic theory since the 20s wasn't.

To people in the south the Confederacy represents much more than racism. It's more of a state rights thing. Lincoln wasn't exactly a saint when it came to liberty and justice for all, either. To southerners the Confederacy represents the idea of the USA as a looser collection of states rather than a strong dominant federal government. fidosim

same reason for all the terrorists around the world... people are brought up to believe certain things and don't know any better

ethanpaige

I live in the south :|gamergirl17

[QUOTE="West-Coast-G"][QUOTE="gamergirl17"]I live in the south :|gamergirl17

I think its just pride in their Heritage and ancestors like the Japanese

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"]I live in the south :|soulfood4

I'm from Missouri, so we're kinda in the middle. I don't understand supporting the flag, but I can understand being proud of southern heritage, just not confederate heritage.

[QUOTE="soulfood4"][QUOTE="gamergirl17"]I live in the south :|gamergirl17

The sad thing about this board is that for every 2 smart posters' there's 200 dense ones.

The North waved the American flag for close to 100 years, while taking part in slavery. This goes for the KKK, too.

The only reason Lincoln freed southern slaves was to win the war, while northern slaves kept a pickin' (the Emancipation Proclomation wasn't even ratified until Lincoln's death).

People's views of the South are greatly skewed.

I bet you think we all walk around in potato sacks and chew tabacco, too.

i am a big girl.. i can handle it gamergirl17

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="soulfood4"] Me too. Georgia FTW!!! My subdivision has a confederate Flag next to the American flag in the front of the subdivision.soulfood4

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"]i am a big girl.. i can handle it im_mr_brown

[QUOTE="West-Coast-G"][QUOTE="gamergirl17"]I live in the south :|gamergirl17

but i do bet you need a hug :D

but seriously, the thing that baffles me is that these southern pride advocates pride themselves that have no real merit in society(which amazes me because they find a way to make something positive out of it for themselves)

and really, its not just about racism, or backward policies or politics, its just general attitude, it really is contradictory and confusing

and if anyone was wondering, i live near san fransisco (don't play up the homosexual or snobbyness steryotype, it aint all tv makes it out to be), but its just so different from when i visited/lived in the south (lived in maryland, visited south 20+ times approxamately)

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="West-Coast-G"] You have my sympathy. -WCGuberbra

but i do bet you need a hug :D

but seriously, the thing that baffles me is that these southern pride advocates pride themselves that have no real merit in society(which amazes me because they find a way to make something positive out of it for themselves)

and really, its not just about racism, or backward policies or politics, its just general attitude, it really is contradictory and confusing

and if anyone was wondering, i live near san fransisco (don't play up the homosexual or snobbyness steryotype, it aint all tv makes it out to be), but its just so different from when i visited/lived in the south (lived in maryland, visited south 20+ times approxamately)

but i do bet you need a hug :D

uberbra

Doesn't everyone?

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="West-Coast-G"] You have my sympathy. -WCGuberbra

but i do bet you need a hug :D

but seriously, the thing that baffles me is that these southern pride advocates pride themselves that have no real merit in society(which amazes me because they find a way to make something positive out of it for themselves)

and really, its not just about racism, or backward policies or politics, its just general attitude, it really is contradictory and confusing

and if anyone was wondering, i live near san fransisco (don't play up the homosexual or snobbyness steryotype, it aint all tv makes it out to be), but its just so different from when i visited/lived in the south (lived in maryland, visited south 20+ times approxamately)

I'm not even from the U.S.A and I know thats a pretty ignorant statement to make.I've been to various southern states, and I've encountered zero racists in my time there.Have you taken into account that the Confederate flag might represent something other than racism, slavery oppression etc... In fact it might not even represent those things anymore.I would wager that the majority of southerners aren't racists, but are just southerners.Who come from the south and are proud of it.

On a trivial note, the Irish GAA team of county Cork are nicknamed "The Rebels" and the fans can be seen carrying Confederate flags often >_>

[QUOTE="uberbra"]

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"]

but i do bet you need a hug :D

but seriously, the thing that baffles me is that these southern pride advocates pride themselves that have no real merit in society(which amazes me because they find a way to make something positive out of it for themselves)

and really, its not just about racism, or backward policies or politics, its just general attitude, it really is contradictory and confusing

and if anyone was wondering, i live near san fransisco (don't play up the homosexual or snobbyness steryotype, it aint all tv makes it out to be), but its just so different from when i visited/lived in the south (lived in maryland, visited south 20+ times approxamately)

gamergirl17

i mean, if you want.... *blushes*

The sad thing about this board is that for every 2 smart posters' there's 200 dense ones.

The North waved the American flag for close to 100 years, while taking part in slavery. This goes for the KKK, too.

The only reason Lincoln freed southern slaves was to win the war, while northern slaves kept a pickin' (the Emancipation Proclomation wasn't even ratified until Lincoln's death).

People's views of the South are greatly skewed.

I bet you think we all walk around in potato sacks and chew tabacco, too.

MedicMike66

did you not get the part where i said that i didnt believe southern people were generally like that? andjust in caseyou forgot already, it was the south who created the grandfather clauses and jim crow laws that made the south recess back into their backward social climate that lasted a century (because the south had to have their way one way or another)

maybe your the one of those 200 "dense" posters, and dont even realise it..

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="soulfood4"] I've never been to Mississippi, just Alabama, which for me is 2 hours away. Maybe one day i will visit...is there anything to visit in MS? lol i havent heard of anything really.soulfood4

[QUOTE="soulfood4"][QUOTE="gamergirl17"] people lol that is about all there is here... gamergirl17

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="uberbra"] a hug eh?uberbra

i mean, if you want.... *blushes*

The sad thing about this board is that for every 2 smart posters' there's 200 dense ones.

The North waved the American flag for close to 100 years, while taking part in slavery. This goes for the KKK, too.

The only reason Lincoln freed southern slaves was to win the war, while northern slaves kept a pickin' (the Emancipation Proclomation wasn't even ratified until Lincoln's death).

People's views of the South are greatly skewed.

I bet you think we all walk around in potato sacks and chew tabacco, too.

MedicMike66

did you not get the part where i said that i didnt believe southern people were generally like that? andjust in caseyou forgot already, it was the south who created the grandfather clauses and jim crow laws that made the south recess back into their backward social climate that lasted a century (because the south had to have their way one way or another)

maybe your the one of those 200 "dense" posters, and dont even realise it..

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="soulfood4"] Okay well the only person i "know" from MS is you. Sorry but it seems as though i'll never visit MS...ohh well.soulfood4

I actually want to visit some states in the south some day. The only problem with that is it means I'd have to leave So Cal. And leaving So Cal means leaving In N Out. Leaving In N Out is not something I am capable of.Bruin4ev3r1520

DUDE ME TOO! *high fives*

i cant go every couple of weeks without a double-double

and i only say every couple of weeks because i gots to stay lean (and crush the fat american steryotype)

did you not get the part where i said that i didnt believe southern people were generally like that? andjust in caseyou forgot already, it was the south who created the grandfather clauses and jim crow laws that made the south recess back into their backward social climate that lasted a century (because the south had to have their way one way or another)

maybe your the one of those 200 "dense" posters, and dont even realise it..

[QUOTE="soulfood4"]

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"] nahh come crash at my place.. lol my door is always open to pplzgamergirl17

[QUOTE="Bruin4ev3r1520"]I actually want to visit some states in the south some day. The only problem with that is it means I'd have to leave So Cal. And leaving So Cal means leaving In N Out. Leaving In N Out is not something I am capable of.uberbra

DUDE ME TOO! *high fives*

i cant go every couple of weeks without a double-double

and i only say every couple of weeks because i gots to stay lean (and crush the fat american steryotype)

I live in the South, but not really. Miami isn't really considered the South...

Anyway, I agree about the flags and stuff, but I do love "southern" things. I love me some "ya'lls" and Paula Deen, honey.

yokofox33

[QUOTE="gamergirl17"][QUOTE="soulfood4"] Alrite, you have two computers or should i bring my laptop, we can post on OT together :oops:

soulfood4