So...why all the hate on conservatives?

Why are conservatives hated on so much? Or is it just the conservatives like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity that are despised?

I'm asking out of curiousity. I'm not smart in the area of politics!:cry:

I'm asking this based on things I've seen and heard.

I don't hate conservatives, I just disagree with them.

But now that you mention it, i'll never undestand why so many of them rally behind Glenn Beck. he just makes the side look foolish.

You are on a forum that is heavily made of of high school kids and younger. There aren't going to be many Conservatives in that demographic. GS used to swing even more to the left than it does now.

I do not follow politics, its all a big laugh to me. I do hate that since Obama is president it seems like when anyone says anything bad about him its SUCH a big deal, what no one can express their opinion anymore? When everyone and their mom was hating on Bush that was "cool" no one said a thing. But when someone puts a picture of Obama looking like the Joker up the world is going to end?

I do not follow politics, its all a big laugh to me. I do hate that since Obama is president it seems like when anyone says anything bad about him its SUCH a big deal, what no one can express their opinion anymore? When everyone and their mom was hating on Bush that was "cool" no one said a thing. But when someone puts a picture of Obama looking like the Joker up the world is going to end?

Crimtmp

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I do not follow politics, its all a big laugh to me. I do hate that since Obama is president it seems like when anyone says anything bad about him its SUCH a big deal, what no one can express their opinion anymore? When everyone and their mom was hating on Bush that was "cool" no one said a thing. But when someone puts a picture of Obama looking like the Joker up the world is going to end?

gamerguru100

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[QUOTE="Crimtmp"]

I do not follow politics, its all a big laugh to me. I do hate that since Obama is president it seems like when anyone says anything bad about him its SUCH a big deal, what no one can express their opinion anymore? When everyone and their mom was hating on Bush that was "cool" no one said a thing. But when someone puts a picture of Obama looking like the Joker up the world is going to end?

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]Some people think that you're racist if you disagree with Obama.:roll: Or so I've heard.

Crimtmp

I don't hate them, I just feel they make very little sense and contradict themselves alot.

I dont hate them, i just feel they are closed minded and irrational

Do Dems call conservatives "close minded" soley because they do not agree? thats how I feel sometimes.

Canadians sure don't seem to mind them considering the current government is conservative.

Why are conservatives hated on so much? Or is it just the conservatives like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity that are despised?

I'm asking out of curiousity. I'm not smart in the area of politics!:cry:

I'm asking this based on things I've seen and heard.

gamerguru100

There is nothing wrong with conservative ideas, socially I fall into the centrist-conservative area, economically I fall into the liberal area.

It's the just conservative movement in America does a good job of making themselves look bad through their ignorance of their own ideology.

Ask most conservatives how they feel about Adam Smith or Milton Friedman influence on conservatism and they'll give you a blank stare.

Also Limbaugh is disliked because he's a xenophobic, (former) drug addict, hypocrite, and liar.

Glenn Beck is disliked because he's a xenophobic, (former) alcoholic, hypocirte, and liar. But I give him a pass because I realize he's just playing politics to make money.

You are on a forum that is heavily made of of high school kids and younger. There aren't going to be many Conservatives in that demographic. GS used to swing even more to the left than it does now.

Pirate700

So true.

And wasn't it Winston Churchill that said something like:

If you are not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. And if you are not a conservative when you are 40 you have no brain.

I don't hate conservatives (as I find myself lean to the right on some issues these days). What I do hate are the radicals and extremists...but liberal and conservative.

The last time I saw a poll about the political balance of these forums, a slight majority of voters here classifed themselves as being right-wing.

So we can easily rule out a "majority mocking minority" issue, leaving several other options to consider. I've personally invalidated the idea of liberals are noisier, having observed that a good deal of our political threads (with the exception of same-sex marriage debates, where the leftist positions are the only rational ones and also where the majority of people thankfully manage to show that they have working brains) again swing towards right-wingers in terms of verbal support. There's also the possibility of liberals being less logical/knowledgable/intelligent people, but nobody here can be the judge of that and expect not to get flamed.

I'd say that the reason is mainly things like right-wing extremists doing/saying things far more outrageous than their left-wing peers, and getting noticed on camera while they're at it (hint: Palin) and therefore making their side look stupider to the average Joe. And we all know that the appearance of unintelligence on this forum illicits much in the way of anger, scorn, hatred and all the good stuff about hell, especially when attributed to the powerful - generally regardless of political idealogy.

As for me, I'm socially left wing and economically centrist, and as far as I'm concerned hating people isn't going to get me anywhere. Different policies will get you different results, and therefore by default people with different political inclinations want different results than myself. And given that I'm a follower of the "you follow your own beliefs" idealogy, I can hardly force them to choose the results I want over their own preferences.

Still, I do have many reasons to "hate" conservatives as far as the social side of things go: it's a right-wing (and unfortunately the current) policy to be against same-sex marriage, no doubt about it, and so far the situation is that several hundred thousand people are denied a simple civil liberty without a single half-decent basis.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You are on a forum that is heavily made of of high school kids and younger. There aren't going to be many Conservatives in that demographic. GS used to swing even more to the left than it does now.

collegeboy64

So true.

And wasn't it Winston Churchill that said something like:

If you are not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. And if you are not a conservative when you are 40 you have no brain.

Libertarians for the win. Thats the party im in..Conservatives and dems are all idiots. They argue with themselves night and day and get nothing done. There needs to be some middle ground..

There is nothing wrong with conservative ideas, socially I fall into the centrist-conservative area, economically I fall into the liberal area.

It's the just conservative movement in America does a good job of making themselves look bad through their ignorance of their own ideology.

Ask most conservatives how they feel about Adam Smith or Milton Friedman influence on conservatism and they'll give you a blank stare.

Also Limbaugh is disliked because he's a xenophobic, (former) drug addict, hypocrite, and liar.

Glenn Beck is disliked because he's a xenophobic, (former) alcoholic, hypocirte, and liar. But I give him a pass because I realize he's just playing politics to make money.

Ace_WondersX

This whole post reeks of excellence. I particularly agree with the bolded portion. Funny thing is, when these people hear Milton Friedman's views on social issues, they think he is a liberal.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You are on a forum that is heavily made of of high school kids and younger. There aren't going to be many Conservatives in that demographic. GS used to swing even more to the left than it does now.

Bourbons3

So true.

And wasn't it Winston Churchill that said something like:

If you are not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. And if you are not a conservative when you are 40 you have no brain.

Canadians sure don't seem to mind them considering the current government is conservative.

one_plum

The internet is mostly very liberal and gives a very poor image of conservatives. I'm on a college campus and being conservative is nearly a crime to some of these people yet they don't understand how I don't own a gun, I don't own a bible, I don't own a big truck, because apparently being conservative means I have all of these things.

The image of conservatives is very negative on the internet and in a lot of places. The conservatives in the media spotlight don't help much as a lot of the time they usually have a lot of "foot-in-mouth" moment that then get blown up by the liberal media and fed to the youth.

I've met people who hated conservatives with a burning passion. Thought they were just bad people for being conservative. They swore that no conservative cares about anybody but themselves. It's a poor image that conservatives have.

Being on a college campus I'm in the heart of the most liberal parts of America. I've heard some of the craziest ideas ever from people here. No logic or reasoning behind it at all. The professors are hit and miss. Some are really liberal while others are fairly moderate with some left leaning tendencies, except for one economics professor who was very conservative. This atmosphere of 95% liberal is a breeding ground for negative images of conservatives to be built since liberals here have no real contact with true conservatives except for the crazies on TV and the images on the web.

The web for the most part is a lot of kids believing that liberal is much better than conservative. Which doesn't surprise me since at a young age we are taught to be kind to each other and to care about others, and this is the image of the typical liberal person. Also the fact that liberal politics are much easier to comprehend than a conservatives politics. Case and point trickle down economics and the idea of a free market. Kids don't understand how economies so they don't understand the ideas that conservatives bring, as they usually are pretty complicated instead of letting the government control stuff, which is pretty plain and simple at the surface (but can get stupidly complicated).

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="collegeboy64"]

So true.

And wasn't it Winston Churchill that said something like:

If you are not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. And if you are not a conservative when you are 40 you have no brain.

nocoolnamejim

Open your eyes everyone is hated on, it's not just conservatives. And much of the hate either way stems from ignorance and intolerance.

Libertarians for the win. Thats the party im in..Conservatives and dems are all idiots. They argue with themselves night and day and get nothing done. There needs to be some middle ground..

imaps3fanboy

I don't trust libertarians. They're all lying aryans who worship Bert!

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="collegeboy64"]

So true.

And wasn't it Winston Churchill that said something like:

If you are not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. And if you are not a conservative when you are 40 you have no brain.

nocoolnamejim

Wow. Didn't mean to insult anyone.

And I never said Churchill was describing himself. I just attributed a statement to him. Didn't even call it a quote, cuz I'm not sure of the exact wording.

Touchy much?

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Libertarians for the win. Thats the party im in..Conservatives and dems are all idiots. They argue with themselves night and day and get nothing done. There needs to be some middle ground..

Pixel-Pirate

I don't trust libertarians. They're all lying aryans who worship Bert!

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

There is nothing wrong with conservative ideas, socially I fall into the centrist-conservative area, economically I fall into the liberal area.

It's the just conservative movement in America does a good job of making themselves look bad through their ignorance of their own ideology.

Ask most conservatives how they feel about Adam Smith or Milton Friedman influence on conservatism and they'll give you a blank stare.

Also Limbaugh is disliked because he's a xenophobic, (former) drug addict, hypocrite, and liar.

Glenn Beck is disliked because he's a xenophobic, (former) alcoholic, hypocirte, and liar. But I give him a pass because I realize he's just playing politics to make money.

coolbeans90

This whole post reeks of excellence. I particularly agree with the bolded portion. Funny thing is, when these people hear Milton Friedman's views on issues, they think he is a liberal.

The web for the most part is a lot of kids believing that liberal is much better than conservative. Which doesn't surprise me since at a young age we are taught to be kind to each other and to care about others, and this is the image of the typical liberal person. Also the fact that liberal politics are much easier to comprehend than a conservatives politics. Case and point trickle down economics and the idea of a free market. Kids don't understand how economies so they don't understand the ideas that conservatives bring, as they usually are pretty complicated instead of letting the government control stuff, which is pretty plain and simple at the surface (but can get stupidly complicated).

Wasdie

You are on a forum that is heavily made of of high school kids and younger. There aren't going to be many Conservatives in that demographic. GS used to swing even more to the left than it does now.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The web for the most part is a lot of kids believing that liberal is much better than conservative. Which doesn't surprise me since at a young age we are taught to be kind to each other and to care about others, and this is the image of the typical liberal person. Also the fact that liberal politics are much easier to comprehend than a conservatives politics. Case and point trickle down economics and the idea of a free market. Kids don't understand how economies so they don't understand the ideas that conservatives bring, as they usually are pretty complicated instead of letting the government control stuff, which is pretty plain and simple at the surface (but can get stupidly complicated).

PannicAtack

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The web for the most part is a lot of kids believing that liberal is much better than conservative. Which doesn't surprise me since at a young age we are taught to be kind to each other and to care about others, and this is the image of the typical liberal person. Also the fact that liberal politics are much easier to comprehend than a conservatives politics. Case and point trickle down economics and the idea of a free market. Kids don't understand how economies so they don't understand the ideas that conservatives bring, as they usually are pretty complicated instead of letting the government control stuff, which is pretty plain and simple at the surface (but can get stupidly complicated).

warbmxjohn

i agree with this statement

Conservatives (at least in the American sense) ought to call themselves right-wing liberals. Just the name conservative pretty much brings up the thought of anti-progress. And really, who doesn't like progress?

Conservatives (at least in the American sense) ought to call themselves right-wing liberals. Just the name conservative pretty much brings up the thought of anti-progress. And really, who doesn't like progress?

_BlueDuck_

Well, conservative people. Tradition has its own appeal to certain groups of people.

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Conservatives (at least in the American sense) ought to call themselves right-wing liberals. Just the name conservative pretty much brings up the thought of anti-progress. And really, who doesn't like progress?

one_plum

Well, conservative people. Tradition has its own appeal to certain groups of people.

I don't hate conservatives, but a lot of the people speaking for their movement sure do hate people like me.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You are on a forum that is heavily made of of high school kids and younger. There aren't going to be many Conservatives in that demographic. GS used to swing even more to the left than it does now.

Sajedene

Saying all non-conservatives are kids is as false as saying all conservatives are 70+ year old bankers.

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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

Conservatives (at least in the American sense) ought to call themselves right-wing liberals. Just the name conservative pretty much brings up the thought of anti-progress. And really, who doesn't like progress?

PannicAtack

Well, conservative people. Tradition has its own appeal to certain groups of people.

A problem I see is that people tend to judge groups based on their extremes.. and while an extreme liberal might be an annoying elitish smug snob, an extreme conservative can hold views that are much more harmful and offensive.