!SPOILERS! Inception, understanding what the ending meant !SPOILERS!

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#1 calebcop
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CAUTION! This forum contains SPOILERS from the movie Inception. If you have not seen the entire movie, please do not read further, for one thing, you will have spoiled the movie, and for 2nd, you will not contribute to the forum whatsoever. So please DO NOT READ on if you have not seen Inception.

So I recently saw Inception on Blu-ray. I thought it was an amazing movie. I understood pretty much everything too. I was at the end and Cobb sat down the Totem and it started spinning, and then it started to wobble, and when you think it was about to fall over, they ended the movie. I was sooooo ticked, But decided that even thought it is unclear weither or not the end was a Dream or real life, and was of course meant to be unclear, I thought it was real. But then I really weighed some facts, and became unsure again. So I decided I would start this forum and talk about weither we thought the end was a dream, or reality. Heres how I think we should do it. We should state our opinion, like so. Here is my opinion.

At first I thought the end was reality, but then I weighed some more facts but became unsure.

Why it might be real:

Cobb would of looked at his kids if he planned on staying in the dream world. (When the girl shot his wife in the dream because she stabbed him)

Cobb would of done something to help his wife when she was dying in the dream world because of the gun shot. He would of perhaps been mad at the girl for shooting her.

Cobb also would of not accepted the fact that his wife's reflection was not real.

Cobb would of brought his wife back if it was a dream.

Why the end was maybe a dream:

When Cobb came back to his kids, they were wearing the same clothes and doing the same thing as he left. They also looked the same, from the back side (Since we do not see there faces until the end) and it had been years since he left them.

Even though we will never know for sure, it is still fun to try to figure it out ourselves. So, please give your opinion and share it with the GS users. Thanks!

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#2 Chris_Williams
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..theres no understand, if you go do some research its been confirmed what the ending truly is by an actor of the movie

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#3 Ace6301
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It was confirmed the kids at the end are wearing different clothes and played by different actors than previously. Every scene with Michael Caine is reality as confirmed by him and Nolan. In the end it doesn't matter though. Cobb was happy and had accepted where ever he was at.
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#4 dodgerblue13
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The clothes are different and the kids are older. I think it's reality.
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#5 iloverikku11
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even without confirmation from sources, it was pretty obvious that it was actually real.

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#6 CoolSkAGuy
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He was nuts. Its ok though they made millions and millions of dollars. I perosnally think he was stuck in his head the entire movie.
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#7 harashawn
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I think he was awake; but it doesn't matter, because either way he got to go home and see his kids.
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#8 calebcop
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He was nuts. Its ok though they made millions and millions of dollars. I perosnally think he was stuck in his head the entire movie.CoolSkAGuy

I gave that same idea a whirl, but thought maybe not.

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#9 Mousetaches
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Inception wasn't deep or confusing. It was obscure. It's not like this amazingly influential movie everyone thinks it is. It's entertaining with some bizarre concepts.
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#10 poseidonwest
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You could clearly tell the top was about to fall. Reality I say.

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#11 harashawn
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Inception wasn't deep or confusing. It was obscure. It's not like this amazingly influential movie everyone thinks it is. It's entertaining with some bizarre concepts.Mousetaches
A lot of people have difficulty accepting that the ending of a movie doesn't have to be clear. The point of the ending is that he doesn't care anymore because he got what he wanted. Whether it is a dream or not is irrelevant.
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#12 Bloodseeker23
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What is reality?.....
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#13 Mr_Alexander
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I heard they asked the man who made the costumes for the movie about the kid clothes and he said they weren't wearing the same clothes
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#14 Mousetaches
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[QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Inception wasn't deep or confusing. It was obscure. It's not like this amazingly influential movie everyone thinks it is. It's entertaining with some bizarre concepts.harashawn
A lot of people have difficulty accepting that the ending of a movie doesn't have to be clear. The point of the ending is that he doesn't care anymore because he got what he wanted. Whether it is a dream or not is irrelevant.

But its not even like Nolan was devilishly clever with that idea. Its been a recurring theme in literature and film since the beginning of time. Don't get me wrong, its a cool movie, but its not groundbreaking.

Edit: in fact, DA:O, which came out a half a year before Inception, toys around with this idea a ton whenever there are demons present.

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#15 turtlethetaffer
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If you talk to my friend, he will give you an indepth description of why it was a dream. It's pretty well thought out, to. (Which is strange considering he hardly does any thinking.)

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#16 F1_2004
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If it wasn't for the actors themselves confirming that it was reality, I wouldn't believe it was. The ending scene is the same scene (or very similar) that Cobb always sees, and he gives up on waiting for that spinning thing to fall and just accepts his dream world.
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#17 harashawn
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[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Inception wasn't deep or confusing. It was obscure. It's not like this amazingly influential movie everyone thinks it is. It's entertaining with some bizarre concepts.Mousetaches

A lot of people have difficulty accepting that the ending of a movie doesn't have to be clear. The point of the ending is that he doesn't care anymore because he got what he wanted. Whether it is a dream or not is irrelevant.

But its not even like Nolan was devilishly clever with that idea. Its been a recurring theme in literature and film since the beginning of time. Don't get me wrong, its a cool movie, but its not groundbreaking.

Edit: in fact, DA:O, which came out a half a year before Inception, toys around with this idea a ton whenever there are demons present.

Of course ambiguous endings are nothing new. But the point of the ending isn't to confuse the viewer, though people naturally need closure, so it's understandable that there is such a huge debate over this. The thing is, what they are debating doesn't really matter, because Cobb got his closure by going home and seeing his kids, which is exactly what he wanted.
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#18 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Inception wasn't deep or confusing. It was obscure. It's not like this amazingly influential movie everyone thinks it is. It's entertaining with some bizarre concepts.Mousetaches

A lot of people have difficulty accepting that the ending of a movie doesn't have to be clear. The point of the ending is that he doesn't care anymore because he got what he wanted. Whether it is a dream or not is irrelevant.

But its not even like Nolan was devilishly clever with that idea. Its been a recurring theme in literature and film since the beginning of time. Don't get me wrong, its a cool movie, but its not groundbreaking.

Edit: in fact, DA:O, which came out a half a year before Inception, toys around with this idea a ton whenever there are demons present.

I can't say I remember DA:O doing such a thing.
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#19 Theokhoth
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Dude, wtf, give a spoiler warning next time!
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Here. Its like 3 or something.
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#22 ZumaJones07
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I understood it after I left the theater. It was his reality at the end. I also heard some things about how his totem was his wedding ring and not his wife's totem top. I never looked into it though. And I just had a thought. What if we're all dream sharing right now? What if we've all been sedated in our real lives and are living the most epic shared dream!? :P
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#23 CBR600-RR
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When that object was still spinning at the ending, that was just to keep you thinking. He wasn't in a dream at the end.

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#24 DarkGamer007
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I think the bigger question is whether or not the film took place within in a dream itself. Consider this, in order to be asleep so long Cobb and his wife were probably under a sedative and in a Level 3 dream. Later in the movie it is explained that if you die in Level 3 under a sedative you enter Limbo where you can lose track of what is reality and what is a dream, and while in Level 3 both Copp and his wife are killed by a train, so shouldn't they both be in Limbo?

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I'd thought that it might not have been real because the totem spun for much longer than it normally did when he was testing it. I know that was to build suspense but it made me think that it was the dream world. However after reading this thread I'll change my mind, and I'm a lot happier because I like happy endings ^^
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#26 tofu-lion91
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I think the bigger question is whether or not the film took place within in a dream itself. Consider this, in order to be asleep so long Cobb and his wife were probably under a sedative and in a Level 3 dream. Later in the movie it is explained that if you die in Level 3 under a sedative you enter Limbo where you can lose track of what is reality and what is a dream, and while in Level 3 both Copp and his wife are killed by a train, so shouldn't they both be in Limbo?

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I thought the bit with the train was limbo and that his wife did lose track of reality, which is why she locked away her totem (choosing to ignore that limbo was dreaming and it to become her reality)? That they killed themselves with the train to get out of limbo.
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#27 MasterBolt360
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The director said himself, he didn't want there to be a "for-sure" ending. Therefore, there is no right or wrong answer.

It's the feeling of "what happens next?!?!?" that he was trying to deliver. Waddya know, it worked.

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#28 calebcop
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You could clearly tell the top was about to fall. Reality I say.

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I thought the same, but who really knows unless it was confirmed.

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What is reality?.....Bloodseeker23
A dream within a dream?
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#30 calebcop
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Dude, wtf, give a spoiler warning next time!Theokhoth

Dude, I completly did. 3 times in fact. Twice in the Topic and one huge one in the beginning of my post. So don't go telling me I didn't.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Dude, wtf, give a spoiler warning next time!calebcop

Dude, I completly did. 3 times in fact. Twice in the Topic and one huge one in the beginning of my post. So don't go telling me I didn't.

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I think the bigger question is whether or not the film took place within in a dream itself. Consider this, in order to be asleep so long Cobb and his wife were probably under a sedative and in a Level 3 dream. Later in the movie it is explained that if you die in Level 3 under a sedative you enter Limbo where you can lose track of what is reality and what is a dream, and while in Level 3 both Copp and his wife are killed by a train, so shouldn't they both be in Limbo?

DarkGamer007

I gave that a thought, but in Limbo his Totem never stopped spinning.

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#33 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Well, it showed how he got there. In a dream, you can't remember how you got to the point you're at, it shows and he knows how he got there, therefore it must be reality.

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#34 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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Or how about we accept the ending was purely ambiguous to what happened because that's what Christopher Nolan intended for it to be, without people literally reading into every little fiber of every scene just to come to a conclusion even he really didn't make and also one that ruins the original meaning behind it.

Despite that, I believe he wasn't in a dream.

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#35 CoolSkAGuy
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Or how about we accept the ending was purely ambiguous to what happened because that's what Christopher Nolan intended for it to be, without people literally reading into every little fiber of every scene just to come to a conclusion even he really didn't make and also one that ruins the original meaning behind it.

Despite that, I believe he wasn't in a dream.

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No, because if we just accept things there wouldn't be a discussion here. I believe when he headed outside to see his kids. His memory completely blanked out because he had reached that point in his dream where you don't realize how you get there. You just do...because its a dream. :D
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#36 Roushrsh
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It was pretty obvious that it was reality... if you don't believe me go google it, the director or was it the writer, I forget, one of them confirmed it was in reality at the end
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#37 rockinplanes
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Goddamn you OP!! You spoiled the entire thing for me.
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#38 Niff_T
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It's threads like these that remind me why I loathe Inception's ending so much.

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#39 CBR600-RR
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It's threads like these that remind me why I loathe Inception's ending so much.

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..and this is why I've stopped viewing the FAU.

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#40 jpph
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Cracked.com summed it up well. It is not definitely either. It is SUPPOSED to be ambigious. Believe what you want, you can't know.