Study: Black Women less attractive than Other Women.

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#1 Nibroc420
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"Kanazawa extrapolates from a data set created by the unrelatedAdd Health project, which tracked survey responses from adolescence to adulthood on a wide variety of subjects. From these survey responses, Kanazawa concludes that 'black women are objectively less physically attractive than other women.'"

Apparently things like Average BMI and Inteligence were taken into account when he made this graph..

The original article by Mr.Kanazawa published in "Psychology Today" has since been removed.

Any thoughts?

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I have always found Black women to be less attractive than other races.

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not surprised at all.

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Was willing to give this some creedence until I saw who ran the study...

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#5 deactivated-59d151f079814
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This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.
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#6 Toriko42
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:lol: Pack that there's so many beautiful black women it's ridiculous.
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This thing is worthless, his entire conclusion is based on an elementary logical fallacy that a six-year old could detect.

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This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.sSubZerOo
He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive. If so many people have preference of another race over blacks, doesn't that mean anything?

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.Nibroc420
He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.

Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.
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#11 rastotm
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Another study shows that ligh black people and tanned white people are the most attrative

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#12 Serraph105
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Okay. Coming from a man who isn't all that attracted to black women I don't really find this study to be false. It's completely subjective of course which makes the study a tad silly, but whatever.

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Lol. The guy who wrote the article proposed a Ann Coulter presidency (insane enough) to nuke the middle east and wipe it off the earth. Obviously this guys got some...issues. Many, many issues.
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I don't like American black chick styles but back in Jamaica those chicks are gorgeous.

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Okay. Coming from a man who isn't all that attracted to black women I don't really find this study to be false. It's completely subjective of course which makes the study a tad silly, but whatever.

Serraph105

Which is the entire point, its completely subjective.. Meaning it can not be objective, hence its ridiculous.. Furthermore people actually need to read up on the author of this study.. He is crazy.

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Lol. The guy who wrote the article proposed a Ann Coulter presidency (insane enough) to nuke the middle east and wipe it off the earth. Obviously this guys got some...issues. Many, many issues.Ace6301

What does that have to do with the study? No matter how insane he apparently is i read this a few weeks ago and i kind of agreed with him.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.Toriko42
He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.

Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.

Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.
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#18 Toriko42
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Light skin was comfirmed as a attractive trait a long time ago, there are bound to be exeptions though.

rastotm
No it wasn't. It was a trend. It's like how European women used to make their skin as pasty as possible and people used to find chubby chicks hot. Trends change...In our modern day light skin is in no way considered the standard especially in an age where white people strive to get that 'perfect tan'. Attractiveness is not confirmed, it's subjective and changes all the time. That's why this study is ludicrous.
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People are intitled to their own opinions, no matter how inane.

Personally, black women are the hotness.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.Toriko42
He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.

Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.

Well the survey after all IS trying to measure how attractive people find people of each skin colour, so there's no unexpected or unwarranted subjectivity. You cant really have an objective survey when the "topic" is attractiveness, and I dont know why anyone would expect that and then complain that the survey is subjective.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.Toriko42
He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.

Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.

I have a quick question for you, just because I'm now curious.

Suppose I were to conduct a similar study, yet all I did to find my results is poll a group of 500,000 randomly selected men. Let's say my only interest is to simply find out which race is "most attractive" on average. Along with the group being polled, I add in a few other factors such as average intelligence, BMI and the Golden Ratio.

My ultimate finding is that through these factors, black women lag behind all others. I report my findings and release all data for public view.

Is that racist?

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.Nibroc420
Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.

Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.

Hahahahahah nope you're wrong. So many problems could occur in that study like the sample. If it's not a random sample than your whole survey is flawed. Take a survey of 100 people from Houstan's 5th Ward and do the same with 100 people from Beverley Hills and you'll get totally different results.

The person that did this survey is certified loco too so I really doubt this was properly done.

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This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

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:| Wow...I'm speechless
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.Nibroc420
Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.

Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.

Based upon what? I would like to see his actual survey if they were in fact scientific polls.. Based on this guy track record, this guy is anything but objective...Until then there is immense doubt that this guys entire scientific study is full of crap.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell. Toriko42
Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.

Hahahahahah nope you're wrong. So many problems could occur in that study like the sample. If it's not a random sample than your whole service is flawed. Take a survey of 100 people from Houstan's 5th Ward and do the same with 100 people from Beverley Hills and you'll get totally different results.

Yet this wasn't only 100 people, and it wasn't done in one location. Anyone who knows anything about statistics and patterns would know that although attractiveness is subjective, Trends can still be found and those trends are objective ;)
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This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

MrMe1000

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.Nibroc420
Hahahahahah nope you're wrong. So many problems could occur in that study like the sample. If it's not a random sample than your whole service is flawed. Take a survey of 100 people from Houstan's 5th Ward and do the same with 100 people from Beverley Hills and you'll get totally different results.

Yet this wasn't only 100 people, and it wasn't done in one location. Anyone who knows anything about statistics and patterns would know that although attractiveness is subjective, Trends can still be found and those trends are objective ;)

Funny you say that because we have no idea if his polls were actually scientific ones.. Based on this guys track record there is no reason to trust this guys objective thought, inless of course we get evidence that contradicts that.. As in his methodology..

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[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

sSubZerOo

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

Sure, pull the "Racism" card just because someone says something opinionated about another race.
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[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

sSubZerOo

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

Oh noes! People aren't equally attracted to each race!
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]This guy fails because you can not be objective on something like physical attractiveness, something that differs between one person to the next.Toriko42
He took results from surveys, the graph shows how black women were found to be the least attractive.

Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell.

I'm African American and I don't find it to be racist at all. Not very sensitive or well thought out, but doesn't seem to be intended to be racist. Please stop throwing the racist card out all the time, because when something racist really does happen, no one listens to us. I'm personally not attracted to black women. I'm pretty much exclusively attracted to asian women, and my girlfriend is Vietnamese, that's just my preference. I don't see anything wrong with the survey on the surface, if a large majority of people dont find black women attractive, then a large majority of people don't find black women attractive. It doesn't mean they aren't it simply means that the preference at large is not for black women, and that does tell you that for whatever reason they are not as attractive to most people. Why that is, I'm not sure. I'll go on to say that I believe this is based on more than just looks. I think a large stigma comes with black women unfortunately. If you're black as well, lets be honest here. In America, black women are more often than not can be ghetto, and carry an attitude as if the world is against them. This isn't helping anything, and is one of the reasons I was driven away from women of my own race at an early age.
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[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

sSubZerOo

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

[/QUOTE

The term is African American. Racist.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.

Hahahahahah nope you're wrong. So many problems could occur in that study like the sample. If it's not a random sample than your whole service is flawed. Take a survey of 100 people from Houstan's 5th Ward and do the same with 100 people from Beverley Hills and you'll get totally different results.

Yet this wasn't only 100 people, and it wasn't done in one location. Anyone who knows anything about statistics and patterns would know that although attractiveness is subjective, Trends can still be found and those trends are objective ;)

No they aren't. You can't determine an objective conclusion based on data which is derived from subjective views.
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Nibroc gets to keep making threads, and Dyst is banned...

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

Nibroc420

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

Sure, pull the "Racism" card just because someone says something opinionated about another race.

Are you kidding me did you read what he wrote?!!? Sometimes this forum really surprises me
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Oh noes! People aren't equally attracted to each race!DroidPhysX
I'm shocked! :o

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Hahahahahah nope you're wrong. So many problems could occur in that study like the sample. If it's not a random sample than your whole service is flawed. Take a survey of 100 people from Houstan's 5th Ward and do the same with 100 people from Beverley Hills and you'll get totally different results. Toriko42
Yet this wasn't only 100 people, and it wasn't done in one location. Anyone who knows anything about statistics and patterns would know that although attractiveness is subjective, Trends can still be found and those trends are objective ;)

No they aren't. You can't determine an objective conclusion based on data which is derived from subjective views.

Yes you can. I suggest you go read up on what those two words mean. You can have Objective data gathered that represents the majority's subjective opinion.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Surveys based on subjective taste. This survey is flawed and stupid lol. Kids in elementary science learn that this is not even scientific in the least. This whole study is racist as hell. Toriko42

Not at all. If 99/100 people find whites/asians/native americans over blacks, that's personal preference, but it's a definite pattern. That pattern is what this survey is showing. Nothing more.

Hahahahahah nope you're wrong. So many problems could occur in that study like the sample. If it's not a random sample than your whole survey is flawed. Take a survey of 100 people from Houstan's 5th Ward and do the same with 100 people from Beverley Hills and you'll get totally different results.

The person that did this survey is certified loco too so I really doubt this was properly done.

Research shows that the vast majority of cultures prefer light skinned women because they are associated with wealth and high class.
It may have nothing to do with dark or light skin being physically attractive but it does play a role in attractiveness overall.

Intrestingly enough, these days white people with a tan are prefered for the same reasons.

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"From these survey responses, Kanazawa concludes that 'black women are objectively less physically attractive than other women.'"

Nibroc420

Impossible?

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Yet this wasn't only 100 people, and it wasn't done in one location. Anyone who knows anything about statistics and patterns would know that although attractiveness is subjective, Trends can still be found and those trends are objective ;)

No they aren't. You can't determine an objective conclusion based on data which is derived from subjective views.

Yes you can. I suggest you go read up on what those two words mean. You can have Objective data gathered that represents the majority's subjective opinion.

No because it makes no sense. This survey basically said, 'Because these people subjectivally found these women to be less attractive based on their own taste, we can say that black women are objectively less attractive' That's totally incorrect...Not even scientific in the least.
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Maybe, but women who are mixed are the best looking of all.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Yet this wasn't only 100 people, and it wasn't done in one location. Anyone who knows anything about statistics and patterns would know that although attractiveness is subjective, Trends can still be found and those trends are objective ;)Nibroc420
No they aren't. You can't determine an objective conclusion based on data which is derived from subjective views.

Yes you can. I suggest you go read up on what those two words mean. You can have Objective data gathered that represents the majority's subjective opinion.

.. Which doesn't make it objective.. It makes it a opinion based poll.. Just because a large amount of people think Obama wasn't born in the United States, doesn't some how mean he was in fact not born in the United States.. But I am done feeding the trolls.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Yes you can. I suggest you go read up on what those two words mean. You can have Objective data gathered that represents the majority's subjective opinion.

What do you mean by "objective data"? That they are not fabricated?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] No they aren't. You can't determine an objective conclusion based on data which is derived from subjective views. sSubZerOo

Yes you can. I suggest you go read up on what those two words mean. You can have Objective data gathered that represents the majority's subjective opinion.

.. Which doesn't make it objective.. It makes it a opinion based poll.. Just because a large amount of people think Obama wasn't born in the United States, doesn't some how mean he was in fact not born in the United States.. But I am done feeding the trolls.

TC is only a troll if you disagree with his/her argument? :?

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

"From these survey responses, Kanazawa concludes that 'black women are objectively less physically attractive than other women.'"

Silverbond

Impossible?

Actually it is possible. Black women also on average have higher testosterone, which in turn makes them develop a more manly appearance (Proven, I'm not just being a racist) And again, you can make objective statements based on a survey that collects subjective opinions. If 200 people feel whites/asians are more attractive than blacks, that is their subjective opinion. HOWEVER, one can objectively say that 200 people out of however large their survey was, feel that whites/asians are more attractive than blacks.
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Sometimes this forum really surprises meToriko42

It doesn't surprise me.

Trying to discuss anything having to deal with race in OT is like trying to explain quantum physics to a three year old.

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Maybe, but women who are mixed are the best looking of all.Zero5000X

Latinas>All races/mix.

Anyway, the question is, what will the black people do with this information? Buck their ideas up i hope.

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#48 Parandrus
Member since 2008 • 2511 Posts
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

This would change if their hair wasn't so bad and they would shower more than once a month.

DroidPhysX

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

Oh noes! People aren't equally attracted to each race!

How is what MrMe said not incredibly offensive?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Yes you can. I suggest you go read up on what those two words mean. You can have Objective data gathered that represents the majority's subjective opinion.DroidPhysX

.. Which doesn't make it objective.. It makes it a opinion based poll.. Just because a large amount of people think Obama wasn't born in the United States, doesn't some how mean he was in fact not born in the United States.. But I am done feeding the trolls.

TC is only a troll if you disagree with his/her argument? :?

Maybe you should try to actually read his posts.. Such as his defense of another guy saying that black people only bath once a month, another words calling them filthy.

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#50 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

And here is where the topic needs to be locked, we are starting to see peoples true colors here.

Parandrus

Oh noes! People aren't equally attracted to each race!

How is what MrMe said not incredibly offensive?

Someone could call you a "booger", and still it's only offensive if you accept it as truth.