Why are there so many religion threads today OT? This is ridiculous.
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i dont know why but it seems to happen every now and then when everyone starts talking about one subject. there are some days when the first page is full of 2012 threads, some with other random subjects, i can think of no logical explanation other than aliens.
[QUOTE="Jph625"]
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]The power of Christ compels us.mindstorm
Disagree
No no, that's what I'm trying to prevent!...though more in the spiritual sense.
I take it from your sig and all that that you are a rather devout Christian. Can I ask a question?
Doesn't she eventually die by the power of Christ? I've never seen it. And I just can't believe that Ameruca aired that teletubbies(spelling) episode to children.-Big_Red-
I don't remember. I thought she was cured, and lived. Then the priest falls down the stairs and dies. something like that.
Go for it.[QUOTE="Jph625"]I take it from your sig and all that that you are a rather devout Christian. Can I ask a question?
mindstorm
There is one part of the bible that says its a shame onto a man to have long hair, and yet every picture of Christ he has long hair and a beard. I just was wondering if you take the bible literally or just believe in the good parts to use it as a sort of moral guide book. Because there are lots of things in the bible that would show the god of christianity to be rather cruel/demented. (sorry for the strong language/adjective. I mean no disrespect, i just want to have a discussion with a seemingly sensible Christian.)
Go for it.[QUOTE="mindstorm"]
[QUOTE="Jph625"]I take it from your sig and all that that you are a rather devout Christian. Can I ask a question?
Jph625
There is one part of the bible that says its a shame onto a man to have long hair, and yet every picture of Christ he has long hair and a beard. I just was wondering if you take the bible literally or just believe in the good parts to use it as a sort of moral guide book. Because there are lots of things in the bible that would show the god of christianity to be rather cruel/demented. (sorry for the strong language/adjective. I mean no disrespect, i just want to have a discussion with a seemingly sensible Christian.)
I'm a Christian aswell. Those are only depictions of (I kind of don't want to say this, but. I'm going to say it anyway.) what the white men who propelled Christianity into what it is today, want Jesus to look like. Like he looks like their ideal version of the most perfect guy. It's the same reason they always make Jesus white. I would stop looking at paintings as to what Jesus probably looked like, and just look at the Shroud Of Turin.Go for it.[QUOTE="mindstorm"]
[QUOTE="Jph625"]I take it from your sig and all that that you are a rather devout Christian. Can I ask a question?
Jph625
There is one part of the bible that says its a shame onto a man to have long hair, and yet every picture of Christ he has long hair and a beard. I just was wondering if you take the bible literally or just believe in the good parts to use it as a sort of moral guide book. Because there are lots of things in the bible that would show the god of christianity to be rather cruel/demented. (sorry for the strong language/adjective. I mean no disrespect, i just want to have a discussion with a seemingly sensible Christian.)
Many times Scripture speaks of things we are to do and not do. There are two ways of looking at them: as principles and examples of those principles. As an example, love your neighbor as yourself is a principle that applies to every generation of every culture. With regards to having long hair, that is typically seen as how a more specific principle is lived out in a certain culture. Could it simply mean that in that culture to dress and present yourself in such a way was to present yourself as a male prostitute? If so, then the biblical command to not have long hair would simply be the author, in this case Paul, telling his audience to not dress like prostitutes but to present themselves in ways that are holy. Also, to say that long hair in and of itself is evil or wrong would contradict other things taught in Scripture. Take Samson and John the Baptist as examples, they were, in fact, commanded of God to have long hair. Either this is a contradiction or the command to not have long hair was merely a cultural application of a more general principle. As far as knowing how to take Scripture, let the Scripture interpret itself. Many questions you might have are actually answered by itself. As an example of what to take literally or not, let's look at Jesus' resurrection. Some have tried to argue that it is merely symbolic. That is not what Scripture seems to clearly teach as seen by 1 Corinthians 15:17, "And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins." The rest of that chapter gives even more detail regarding the literal nature of Christ's resurrection.[QUOTE="Jph625"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] Go for it.
mindstorm
There is one part of the bible that says its a shame onto a man to have long hair, and yet every picture of Christ he has long hair and a beard. I just was wondering if you take the bible literally or just believe in the good parts to use it as a sort of moral guide book. Because there are lots of things in the bible that would show the god of christianity to be rather cruel/demented. (sorry for the strong language/adjective. I mean no disrespect, i just want to have a discussion with a seemingly sensible Christian.)
Many times Scripture speaks of things we are to do and not do. There are two ways of looking at them: as principles and examples of those principles. As an example, love your neighbor as yourself is a principle that applies to every generation of every culture. With regards to having long hair, that is typically seen as how a more specific principle is lived out in a certain culture. Could it simply mean that in that culture to dress and present yourself in such a way was to present yourself as a male prostitute? If so, then the biblical command to not have long hair would simply be the author, in this case Paul, telling his audience to not dress like prostitutes but to present themselves in ways that are holy. Also, to say that long hair in and of itself is evil or wrong would contradict other things taught in Scripture. Take Samson and John the Baptist as examples, they were, in fact, commanded of God to have long hair. Either this is a contradiction or the command to not have long hair was merely a cultural application of a more general principle. As far as knowing how to take Scripture, let the Scripture interpret itself. Many questions you might have are actually answered by itself. As an example of what to take literally or not, let's look at Jesus' resurrection. Some have tried to argue that it is merely symbolic. That is not what Scripture seems to clearly teach as seen by 1 Corinthians 15:17, "And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins." The rest of that chapter gives even more detail regarding the literal nature of Christ's resurrection.Let me ask another question, how can you support a god who told moses to rape young girls or a god who said it is a sin, punishable by stoning to death, to be near a women during menstruation. Are these things you would ignore or is there a reason for these as well.
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