Suspect arrested in Times Square incident

Like the quote in the article, there's no way this guy acted alone. Oh, and now we can dispel the myth that the Tea Partiers had anything to do with this as Mayor Bloomberg speculated.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6410CK20100504

I dont understand why people are so outraged against the Tea Party movement. Its so ridiculous its irratating. I mean some liberal groups are going as far as infiltrating them just to try and make them look bad, then the news reports that the movement is "insert flame comment" because of what the infiltrators do. And Bloomberg of all people... wow. I actually respected that guy until now.

Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial. We should get what information we can and then save the tax payers some money, if your picking up what Im throwing down.

Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial.Chrypt22

Uh... what?

Some idiots actually blamed the Tea Partiers? What are they, high?

Wow blaming the tea partiers..that's desperate...

And i agree with the guy that said he shouldn't get a trial...actually as long as he gets the electric chair or something that results in his incarceration/severe/fatal punishment i'm happy..

Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial. .

Chrypt22

Yea, forget if he did it. As long as you have someone to take the blame......ugh

And i agree with the guy that said he shouldn't get a trial...actually as long as he gets the electric chair or something that results in his incarceration/severe/fatal punishment i'm happy..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

You know, I used to be against 'cruel and unusual punishment', but screw it. FRY his butt.

anyone have a link to the actual Bloomberg quote about Tea Partiers? as for the guy. yeah he got back from Pakistan too so it wouldn't be surprising if he was getting told what to do.Ontain

He doesn't mention them explicitly. It's more implied:

"...somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything."

[QUOTE="Chrypt22"]Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial.Oleg_Huzwog

Uh... what?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]anyone have a link to the actual Bloomberg quote about Tea Partiers? as for the guy. yeah he got back from Pakistan too so it wouldn't be surprising if he was getting told what to do.flazzle

He doesn't mention them explicitly. It's more implied:

"...somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything."

(sigh) yep, Bloomberg's gonna be the new Giuliani. What's next? Is he dump his wife and marry a stripper?

[QUOTE="Chrypt22"]

Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial. .

Wolls

Yea, forget if he did it. As long as you have someone to take the blame......ugh

This is generally how the justice system and people behave quite often. It doesn't matter if the person did it, just as long as someone is punished for it and we can feel better. This is usually used when blame either cannot really be put on anyone, or if the person at fault can no longer be punished.

I never understood how anyone could support not giving trials. Seriously, thats insanity, that is all it is.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Chrypt22"]Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial.bytgames

Uh... what?

I'm afraid I don't believe in executing US citizens, or anyone, without a trial. Especially when theres reasonable doubt.

Slippery slope sound familiar to you?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]anyone have a link to the actual Bloomberg quote about Tea Partiers? as for the guy. yeah he got back from Pakistan too so it wouldn't be surprising if he was getting told what to do.flazzle

He doesn't mention them explicitly. It's more implied:

"...somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything."

[QUOTE="bytgames"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Uh... what?

Pixel-Pirate

I'm afraid I don't believe in executing US citizens, or anyone, without a trial. Especially when theres reasonable doubt.

Slippery slope sound familiar to you?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bytgames"] it is unfortunant i agree with him ....i say get all the information from him (by waterboarding) then fry him....no trial.

bytgames

I'm afraid I don't believe in executing US citizens, or anyone, without a trial. Especially when theres reasonable doubt.

Slippery slope sound familiar to you?

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

[QUOTE="Chrypt22"]Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial.Oleg_Huzwog

Uh... what?

If he's an American citizen, he better get a trial.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Chrypt22"]Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial.QuistisTrepe_

Uh... what?

If he's an American citizen, he better get a trial.

[QUOTE="bytgames"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I'm afraid I don't believe in executing US citizens, or anyone, without a trial. Especially when theres reasonable doubt.

Slippery slope sound familiar to you?

Pixel-Pirate

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

if i had admitted to terrorisim yes i wouldnt expect a trail....i would expect the U.S. to treat me like...terrorist treat the u.s...kill me to set an example.

[QUOTE="bytgames"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I'm afraid I don't believe in executing US citizens, or anyone, without a trial. Especially when theres reasonable doubt.

Slippery slope sound familiar to you?

Pixel-Pirate

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

The **** is going on here? Are you people actually advocating skipping a trial? Or are you really coordinating behind the scenes in some sort of late April Fool's joke?

Yaya more news.

For a second there I thought I had entered the MSNBC/CNN forums or something. :" D

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bytgames"]the guy admitted it and was on the run...trying to flee the country. there is no reasonable doubt.

XD4NTESINF3RNOX

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

MattUD1

I think he should get the death penalty and given the quickest death so that he doesnt get to say the shahada.

anasbouzid

why so ?

[QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

I think he should get the death penalty and given the quickest death so that he doesnt get to say the shahada.

TehFuneral

why so ?

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"] So you would want a guy who tried to bomb civilians a trial? He does not deserve one imo anasbouzid

I didnt read enough to see that he is an actual US citizen, then yes he should get a trial, it is in fact a right that he get a trial. However, if he was NOT a US citizen then no, he should not get one.Trying people that are not US citizens for acts of terrorism is a waste of money and time.

So my mistake for assuming. All citizens no matter the crime should get a trial. Given the evidence against this guy I dont think it will take much to convict him.

However, this could be up for debate. If one were to commit or attempt to commit an act of terrorism should they in fact give up their rights as a UScitizen? I would be inclined to say yes.

[QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"] Why should he not get a trial? Should an attempted murderer also not get a trial because his failure to kill someone did not result in someone dead?Chrypt22

I didnt read enough to see that he is an actual US citizen, then yes he should get a trial, it is in fact a right that he get a trial. However, if he was NOT a US citizen then no, he should not get one.Trying people that are not US citizens for acts of terrorism is a waste of money and time.

So my mistake for assuming. All citizens no matter the crime should get a trial. Given the evidence against this guy I dont think it will take much to convict him.

However, this could be up for debate. If one were to commit or attempt to commit an act of terrorism should they in fact give up their rights as a UScitizen? I would be inclined to say yes.

[QUOTE="Chrypt22"]

[QUOTE="anasbouzid"] Yeah, I dont get it. Its like people dont get what a trial is?? He should get a trial and if he is found guilty, I think he should get the death penalty and given the quickest death so that he doesnt get to say the shahada.

anasbouzid

I didnt read enough to see that he is an actual US citizen, then yes he should get a trial, it is in fact a right that he get a trial. However, if he was NOT a US citizen then no, he should not get one.Trying people that are not US citizens for acts of terrorism is a waste of money and time.

So my mistake for assuming. All citizens no matter the crime should get a trial. Given the evidence against this guy I dont think it will take much to convict him.

However, this could be up for debate. If one were to commit or attempt to commit an act of terrorism should they in fact give up their rights as a UScitizen? I would be inclined to say yes.

Well sure... but if he was not a US citizen, and the evidence is up against him then they should just interrogate him and then put a bullet in his head. Thats it... dont waste anyones time or tax payers money.

Well sure... but if he was not a US citizen, and the evidence is up against him then they should just interrogate him and then put a bullet in his head. Thats it... dont waste anyones time or tax payers money.

Chrypt22

Determining guilt is never a waste of time or money.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bytgames"]the guy admitted it and was on the run...trying to flee the country. there is no reasonable doubt.

XD4NTESINF3RNOX

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

Fortunately you do not get to decide who gets one. I'm sure some think murderers, child molesters, and rapists don't deserve a trial. I sure wouldn't want to live in a country where the government can swoop in in the middle of the night and take any US citizen for any reason and execute them without trial. That doesn't sound like any sort of country I'd be proud of.

We are garunteed a right to due process. It's not "trial by peers unless you do something reeeally bad". You get a trial. Is there a good reason he shouldn't get a trial? If you're so sure he's guilty, surely he will be found so by a jury. Doing away with the right to due process for "some people" is a very dangerous slippery slope.

Innocent till proven guilty.

of course somebody is arrested.. you'd think the US would just allow nobody to take the fall for this.. we've had too much of that in the past.. somebody will be brought to justice for this even if they aren't the right person.EMOEVOLUTION

http://www.aolnews.com/the-point/article/was-it-right-to-read-times-square-bomb-suspect-faisal-shahzad-his-miranda-rights/19464437

I don't know what's more surprising, the fact that people want to break the law further to get this guy or that I find myself agreeing with Glenn Beck!

I dont understand why people are so outraged against the Tea Party movement. Its so ridiculous its irratating. I mean some liberal groups are going as far as infiltrating them just to try and make them look bad, then the news reports that the movement is "insert flame comment" because of what the infiltrators do. And Bloomberg of all people... wow. I actually respected that guy until now.

Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial. We should get what information we can and then save the tax payers some money, if your picking up what Im throwing down.

Chrypt22

I get you-- I say we do the same with KSM and the other 9/11 guys

[QUOTE="anasbouzid"][QUOTE="Chrypt22"]

I didnt read enough to see that he is an actual US citizen, then yes he should get a trial, it is in fact a right that he get a trial. However, if he was NOT a US citizen then no, he should not get one.Trying people that are not US citizens for acts of terrorism is a waste of money and time.

So my mistake for assuming. All citizens no matter the crime should get a trial. Given the evidence against this guy I dont think it will take much to convict him.

However, this could be up for debate. If one were to commit or attempt to commit an act of terrorism should they in fact give up their rights as a UScitizen? I would be inclined to say yes.

Chrypt22

Well sure... but if he was not a US citizen, and the evidence is up against him then they should just interrogate him and then put a bullet in his head. Thats it... dont waste anyones time or tax payers money.

[QUOTE="bytgames"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I'm afraid I don't believe in executing US citizens, or anyone, without a trial. Especially when theres reasonable doubt.

Slippery slope sound familiar to you?

Pixel-Pirate

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bytgames"]the guy admitted it and was on the run...trying to flee the country. there is no reasonable doubt.

elblanquito_81

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

Which should make the trial easy for the prosecution, yes?

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

Oleg_Huzwog

Which should make the trial easy for the prosecution, yes?

The **** is going on here? Are you people actually advocating skipping a trial? Or are you really coordinating behind the scenes in some sort of late April Fool's joke?

Oleg_Huzwog

Anyways, unfortunately that guy will get a trial.

Chrypt22

Uhh, the whole point of a trial is to determine whether or not he's guilty. Just because he's a suspect, does not automatically mean he did it.

We do have this whole "Innocent until proven guilty" thing goin' on here y'know.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

The **** is going on here? Are you people actually advocating skipping a trial? Or are you really coordinating behind the scenes in some sort of late April Fool's joke?

-Sun_Tzu-

:lol:

Next thing you know, people will want the right to vote and free speech too. The nerve.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bytgames"]the guy admitted it and was on the run...trying to flee the country. there is no reasonable doubt.

elblanquito_81

People admit things under police interrogation when they didn't do it. It happens more often than you think.

Again, how can you honestly agree with executing people without trial? Would you be okay with that if the police accused you of something and decided you don't need a trial?

Good, so the trial will go quickly.

Still not seeing why it should be skipped. If it's so certain he is guilty, a trial doesn't hurt.