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#1 caribo2222
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Not only is the Swine Flu a major problem which has been shown to be just like 1918 spanish influenza, but a more easly spreadable virus. If you do your research this virus affects young healthy people from teenagers up to the age of 44 the most, mostly young healthy men.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090715/wl_afp/healthfluaustralia_20090715121647-

We do see that there are some people who are young and otherwise healthy who have the rapidly deteriorating disease ... it's obviously concerning," she said.

Roxon said patients' average age was 19,

Researchers are suggesting a 5-10% death rate with this virus when it recombines with other virus, like HIV, H5N1(60%kill rate), Etc. This could mean 1billion people worldwide dead in the next year.

"but were all gonna get vaccines:)", you say but they say with the vaccine 60-70% killrate :), that means you gonna die sunshine.

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu


Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54 AM

By:Dr. Russell BlaylockArticle Font Size

An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness.

Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,"Where the hell it got all these genes from we don't know." Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.

Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world's pandemic vaccine.

Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern-squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found-to no surprise-that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in "prestigious" medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig's disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart's inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

Because squalene, the main ingredient in MF-59, can induce hyperimmune responses and induce autoimmunity, a real danger exists for prolonged activation of the brain's immune cells, the microglia. This type of prolonged activation has been strongly associated with such diseases as multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, ALS and possibly vaccine-related encephalitis. It has been shown that activation of the systemic immune system, as occurs with vaccination, rapidly activates the brain's microglia at the same time, and this brain inflammation can persist for long periods.

So, how would the gp120 get into the brain? Studies of other immune adjuvants using careful tracer techniques have shown that they routinely enter the brain following vaccination. What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most such studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination-these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.

It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic. Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations-everybody pays.

One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself-at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death.

There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.

© 2009 Newsmax

http://www.newsmax.com/health/vaccine_swine_flu/2009/07/07/232717.htm

Vaccines allow the virus to mutate even more, they even say it will be around for 5 years, so you can expect death, and Martial law. Out of this will come the next great deppresion, and to solve that war and then a one world government.

Oh and here is Joe Biden saying that there will be a generated Crysis within six months after obama will be elected:)-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keEsJVrlw6I

SWINE FLU: 50,000 DEAD IN MONTHS-

NEARLY 50,000 people in Britain could die of swine flu before a vaccine becomes available, it emerged today.

Dr Margaret Chan, head of the World Health Organisation, today rubbished claims by the Government that a reliable flu vaccine would be ready within weeks.

Instead she insisted it could be up to three months after a vaccine has been developed before it is ready for widespread public use.

It means - on current Government projections of 100,000 new cases-a-day by the end of August - there could be 45,500 deaths if clinical trials on a vaccine are not completed until the end of November.

Dr Chan said: "There's no vaccine. One should be available in August. But having a vaccine available is not the same as having a vaccine that has been proven safe.

"Clinical trial data will not be available for another two to three months."

Her comments came as Chief Medical Officer for England, Sir Liam Donaldson, refused to rule out a death rate of one in 200 - the figure calculated by experts at Imperial College, London yesterday.

Link British newspaper :)-

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/114092/Swine-flu-50-000-dead-in-months

To the slaughter house guys :)

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#2 freek666
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Mate I already survived being quarantined because of my friend having it and my school shutting down. It was in my damn neighbourhood. It's not problem.

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What happened to the CDC saying the swine flu was nothing to worry about, oh, two months ago? Whatever, I'm not worried.
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#4 PimpiNbananas
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Whyzit called Swine flu? Does it even have anything to do with Pigs?

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Blind ignorance of media scares got me cut price beef during the British BSE scares and with a bit of luck, this will end up with me scoring a truckfull of cheap, delicious pork.
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#6 Kenny789
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Whyzit called Swine flu? Does it even have anything to do with Pigs?

PimpiNbananas
Beats saying A(H1N1). I hate the smart ***** that try to correct me :x I know what it's called! It's just I'd rather call it Swine Flu.
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#7 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I'm not worried.
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I'm not worried.Jandurin
 You will be, you will be.
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You will be, you will be.xTheExploited
hahahaha. You switched the post you responded to :lol:
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#11 Big_Bad_Sad
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Some of my mates went to Cancun and come back with Swine Flu. I think theyre over it now. Its the media making it sound worse than it is. Like bird flu a few years ago.
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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]You will be, you will be.Jandurin
hahahaha. You switched the post you responded to :lol:

Yeah, yours worked better with it. :P
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#13 AustXilo
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What? People get the flu? Sometimes they die? Why has no one ever told me of this?!

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I'm not worried.xTheExploited
 You will be, you will be.

That didn't sound very Yoda-like. :o
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#15 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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That didn't sound very Yoda-like. :omsudude211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqIiCnCA-w
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I've got TB to worry about as well, its been spread round the college I went to and everyone got blood tests and loads have come back positive. I missed mine :?
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[QUOTE="msudude211"] That didn't sound very Yoda-like. :oJandurin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqIiCnCA-w

I guess you can tell I'm not really a Star Wars fan. :P
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Ehh.....swine flus has passed along with sars and west nile to pandemics that could have been.
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#19 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I guess you can tell I'm not really a Star Wars fan. :P msudude211
haha. It's one of Yoda's scarier moments D:
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="msudude211"] That didn't sound very Yoda-like. :omsudude211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqIiCnCA-w

I guess you can tell I'm not really a Star Wars fan. :P

Then you are not a friend of mine. :P
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#21 Shiggums
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Nah, I'm not worried. I work in retail, so I should've gotten it by now. But since I haven't, I don't care.

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#22 Engrish_Major
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Man, worrying about swine flu is sooooo April.
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[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

Researchers are suggesting a 5-10% death rate with this virus when it recombines with other virus, like HIV, H5N1(60%kill rate), Etc. This could mean 1billion people worldwide dead in the next year.

"but were all gonna get vaccines:)", you say but they say with the vaccine 60-70% killrate :), that means you gonna die sunshine.

...

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu.

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311 out of 70,000... isn't that a mortality rate of less than 0.5% >_> And as I've understood it, you have to be really sick in the first place to not be able to recover from this virus. 60-70% death rate if you get the flu after being vaccinated? Where did it say that? And if the vaccine makes it almost impossible to get flu, then there's little too worry about, isn't there?
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Wasn't worried in April, not worried now.

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[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

Researchers are suggesting a 5-10% death rate with this virus when it recombines with other virus, like HIV, H5N1(60%kill rate), Etc. This could mean 1billion people worldwide dead in the next year.

"but were all gonna get vaccines:)", you say but they say with the vaccine 60-70% killrate :), that means you gonna die sunshine.

...

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu.

...Hungry_bunny

311 out of 70,000... isn't that a mortality rate of less than 0.5% >_> And as I've understood it, you have to be really sick in the first place to not be able to recover from this virus. 60-70% death rate if you get the flu after being vaccinated? Where did it say that? And if the vaccine makes it almost impossible to get flu, then there's little too worry about, isn't there?

He just copied and pasted, i'm sure he doesn't have an answer for you.

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Its history like Monkey Pox and Mad Cow Disease.

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#27 Danm_999
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TC, seriously. Swine flu is more contagious than regular flu, but not more deadly. Yes, you're at 60 percent chance of dying if you also have HIV and bird flu, but that's like lightning striking twice.
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#28 BanjoMumbo
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There's my dignified response, very well thought out, you should think this through.

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#29 super_mario_128
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I still don't care.
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#30 Grodus5
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I current projected rates, the swine flu will kill a whooping... SIXTY EIGHT PEOPLE by the end of the year! ZOMG RUN!!! While the regular flu will kill 120,000 people. Yeah, I'm shaking.

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#31 bigblunt537
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OMG we all gon die yo!

Seriously thoguh I'm not afraid of this, but some lady that lived near me died from it not to long ago. I don't know ehr age or anything just know someone died.

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#32 DarkGamer007
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Swine Flu, sorry H1N1, is just more bull**** thrown out of proportion by the media.

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hurrah! more food for us! :D

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#34 Engrish_Major
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Swine Flu, sorry H1N1, is just more bull**** thrown out of proportion by the media.

DarkGamer007
If it weren't for throwing things out of proportion, what would the news networks spend their time doing?
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#35 Sim_genius
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Whoa wall of text. Umm anyway's I'm not scared specially how dramatic the media make it seem to look. Those guys will milk the drama out of everything.
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Swine Flu, sorry H1N1, is just more bull**** thrown out of proportion by the media.

Engrish_Major
If it weren't for throwing things out of proportion, what would the news networks spend their time doing?

losing even more money to the internets
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#37 Tht1Guy7780
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tl;dr

There where two cases in my school, and one at the school the road down my house. Its not that big of a deal.

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#38 Vexx88
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I forgot about until today....
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#39 monkeyd_93
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meh not worried comes to think of it i havent got the flu all winter as yet :D
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#40 aRE-you-AFraid
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Dude, I went to Colorado and was sick for a week with a strand of the Swine Flu. Apparently a girl from Texas that was in the same vicinity brought the virus in. But I'm still standing.
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#41 chessmaster1989
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Not worried at all.
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#42 _glatisant_
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A healthy person really doesn't have too much to worry about. If you have a compromised immune system then yes you do, but seeing as I don't have HIV or anything like that I'm not worried at all.

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#43 SolidSnake35
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People die of regular flu too.
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#44 dan-rofl-copter
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Loads of people in my town are getting it and so far no one is dead, I am not gong to worry.

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#45 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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Yea, no. If you want to sell books, I guess it's a good thing to worry about, otherwise just be smart as always. Don't eat food from the trash, bathe, and visit your doc if your sick. Luckily, I don't have HIV so no worries there.
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#46 tidus_swain
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Why worry, You cant stop it.

If it happens it happens, deal with it then.

And im gonna guess that 90% of the people who die from it will be from poorer countries with worse health programmes and money.

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#47 EMOEVOLUTION
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Fearful people ruin the world.

Fear is a very primitive emotion and is useless in most situations. Time to evolve.. or let fear destroy us all.

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#48 ZookGuy
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Am I supposed to be scared now? Because I'm not.
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#49 Rob-Belmont
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I have more important things to worry about. If I get it, too bad, I would rather take my chances and go outside than spend then next 5 years quarantined in my room.

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#50 Brutal-Koopa
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You should be worried about this!