Texas Attorney General: Democrats More Dangerous Than Kim Jong Un/NK

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#151 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]ran by "experts" in their respective fields MrPraline
EU did this and we ended up with a bunch of Goldman Sachs cronies running the economy. I'll pass.

I think China's current government is essentially a Technocracy. The vast majority of their politicians are engineers or scientists. They're doing well but they do have some problems.

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#152 frannkzappa
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What you've described would really do nothing of the sort.

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I think we are using different definitions of the word politician.

I was using it as a slur against a certain kind of statesmen (common in freemason and technocratic circles), not to describe policy makers in general.

My fault really.

What i am talking about are the officials elected (with any involvement of the general public) by the democratic republic system.

Even still, I stand by my previous statement in that the process would be highly political. Corporations, government bureaucracies, large organizations in general are prone to it - throw in full-scale governance, you've the same sh!t, but orders of the magnitude greater. Really, the only inherent change the influence of the public - which is simply replaced by an inevitably hierarchical beauracratic game.

This can all be solved if those in the government simply adhered to their own technocratic ideals as opposed to openly defying them like you suggest they would.

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#153 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="worlock77"]ran by "experts" in their respective fields Aljosa23

EU did this and we ended up with a bunch of Goldman Sachs cronies running the economy. I'll pass.

I think China's current government is essentially a Technocracy. The vast majority of their politicians are engineers or scientists. They're doing well but they do have some problems.

Yes China is a rougher less refined version of what i propose and its success shows.

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#154 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Even still, I stand by my previous statement in that the process would be highly political. Corporations, government bureaucracies, large organizations in general are prone to it - throw in full-scale governance, you've the same sh!t, but orders of the magnitude greater. Really, the only inherent change the influence of the public - which is simply replaced by an inevitably hierarchical beauracratic game.

coolbeans90

This can all be solved if those in the government simply adhered to their own technocratic ideals as opposed to openly defying them like you suggest they would.

I actually mentioned earlier a number of ways that technocracy within given fields, even discounting quite serious conflicts within said fields, will invariably have conflicts of interests with other fields. That is before we throw real people in the mix. Moreover, there is a definite potential that the public in the loss of its power would ultimately suffer a la China.

These contradictions already exist in the current system except they are handled by anything but experts and we have been dealing with their mediocre results since washington. I hardly see how my system can be any less efficient than the current one.

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#155 The-Apostle
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Texas and California. Every other state bends over and takes it. Fightingfan
California is the opposite of Texas.too bad I live in the wrong state. :(
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#156 BossPerson
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to be fair, NK seems somewhat harmless. Dems on the other hand had a hand in destroying America over the past 20 years
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#157 jeremiah06
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Well... I understand what tc is getting at but if you measure threat level as a number NK is -1 and democrats are 0 so... hes kinda right...