The Aral Sea: One of the worst environmental disasters ever

It pains me that we humans are so destructive. Still now I listen to people talking about progress as if it is a metaphysical entity that we need to worship unconditionally. Well this is what this so called "progress" everyone is so fond of brings. I hope we are all satisfied with more comfortable lifes while our well-being as a species and that of the world slips through our hands.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia

Yes I am very happy of the progress humans have made.

Heres a joint and some kittens.

Jesus, there's just too many people on this planet. i'm predicting another global war before 2030. hamstergeddon

The "evolution" of the Aral Sea

Yes we are too many and we keep reproducing like viruses killing their host. I don't see a solution other than a massive extinction of humans, maybe a big war like you say.

It pains me that we humans are so destructive. Still now I listen to people talking about progress as if it is a metaphysical entity that we need to worship unconditionally. Well this is what this so called "progress" everyone is so fond of brings. I hope we are all satisfied with more comfortable lifes while our well-being as a species and that of the world slips through our hands.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia

RedruM_I

I cannot wait till we all die- i just hope it is through some disease beyond our control.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

It pains me that we humans are so destructive. Still now I listen to people talking about progress as if it is a metaphysical entity that we need to worship unconditionally. Well this is what this so called "progress" everyone is so fond of brings. I hope we are all satisfied with more comfortable lifes while our well-being as a species and that of the world slips through our hands.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia

mtmatt

Jesus, there's just too many people on this planet. i'm predicting another global war before 2030. hamstergeddon

I have sometimes been skeptical about equilibrium, but I now think it may be on to something.

I was talking to a friend about all this stuff and he just recently started playing the game Pathologic. The game is said to be a simulator for situations of disaster and anguish that will come when society starts to decay. Interesting enough the game is russian, received terrible reviews in the west but many awards in Russia. The Soviet Union were the ones directly responssible for what's happening to the Aral Sea although the destruction of the environment is a generalized problem.

I don't think it's coincidence, maybe the russians saw what its happening now before all of us becoming aware of the real dimensions of the problem. It's funny that they are have the intuition to prepare people with "simulations" of disaster. Most western games simulate war while the russians are already simulating how to survive.

Well anyway, some of you may want to try the game to be prepared :). Here is a good synopsis about the game.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/04/10/butchering-pathologic-part-1-the-body/

I cannot wait till we all die-IronBeaver

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

It pains me that we humans are so destructive. Still now I listen to people talking about progress as if it is a metaphysical entity that we need to worship unconditionally. Well this is what this so called "progress" everyone is so fond of brings. I hope we are all satisfied with more comfortable lifes while our well-being as a species and that of the world slips through our hands.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia

mtmatt

[QUOTE="mtmatt"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

It pains me that we humans are so destructive. Still now I listen to people talking about progress as if it is a metaphysical entity that we need to worship unconditionally. Well this is what this so called "progress" everyone is so fond of brings. I hope we are all satisfied with more comfortable lifes while our well-being as a species and that of the world slips through our hands.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia

Tiefster

[QUOTE="mtmatt"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

It pains me that we humans are so destructive. Still now I listen to people talking about progress as if it is a metaphysical entity that we need to worship unconditionally. Well this is what this so called "progress" everyone is so fond of brings. I hope we are all satisfied with more comfortable lifes while our well-being as a species and that of the world slips through our hands.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100404/ap_on_re_as/as_un_central_asia

Tiefster

[QUOTE="IronBeaver"]I cannot wait till we all die-BiancaDK

[QUOTE="IronBeaver"]I cannot wait till we all die-BiancaDK

i will never understand this anti-human mentality.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="IronBeaver"]I cannot wait till we all die-mrbojangles25

i will never understand this anti-human mentality.

[QUOTE="IronBeaver"]I cannot wait till we all die-BiancaDK

Agent Smith was right...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI

[QUOTE="Meinhard_X"]I think we've made loads of progress and most of it is good too. But the demands that capitalism makes on the environment (ie green is not cost efficient) might kill us all!RedruM_I

...but this was done under communist Russia, wasn't it? :|

Also, lets look at China and how horrible they are to the environment.

I know capitalism is "doomed" and all that stuff, but lets keep stuff relevant and bash communism, Russia, China, and stuff for just once.

Also, "Green" businesses are cost efficient in the long run. It is the initial capital that keeps many business, and the captial needed to renovate old businesses, from doing it. Conserving resources though (energy, water, fuel) is always cheaper than not doing so.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Meinhard_X"]I think we've made loads of progress and most of it is good too. But the demands that capitalism makes on the environment (ie green is not cost efficient) might kill us all!mrbojangles25

...but this was done under communist Russia, wasn't it? :|

Also, lets look at China and how horrible they are to the environment.

I know capitalism is "doomed" and all that stuff, but lets keep stuff relevant and bash communism, Russia, China, and stuff for just once.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Meinhard_X"]I think we've made loads of progress and most of it is good too. But the demands that capitalism makes on the environment (ie green is not cost efficient) might kill us all!mrbojangles25

...but this was done under communist Russia, wasn't it? :|

Also, lets look at China and how horrible they are to the environment.

I know capitalism is "doomed" and all that stuff, but lets keep stuff relevant and bash communism, Russia, China, and stuff for just once.

Also, "Green" businesses are cost efficient in the long run. It is the initial capital that keeps many business, and the captial needed to renovate old businesses, from doing it. Conserving resources though (energy, water, fuel) is always cheaper than not doing so.

When we destroy all plants and trees, when we contaminate the seas, when we finish polluting the air and when we waste every single resource mankind will find out that it cannot eat money, but it will be too late.Solid_Tango

Agent Smith was right...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI

legend26

[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]When we destroy all plants and trees, when we contaminate the seas, when we finish polluting the air and when we waste every single resource mankind will find out that it cannot eat money, but it will be too late.Lethalhazard

Interesting what you say about reverting to old states. That could be an interpretation of what the mayans predicted for december 2012. The end of a cycle not the end of the world. We are already experiencing changes both socially and environmentally that influence everyones psyche and suggests something big is going to happen.

Many ancient civilizations included the one the whole western civilizations own their cultural heritage: the indoeuropeans, thought of time as being cyclic. We took the notion of time as being linear from semites though.

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]When we destroy all plants and trees, when we contaminate the seas, when we finish polluting the air and when we waste every single resource mankind will find out that it cannot eat money, but it will be too late.RedruM_I

Interesting what you say about reverting to old states. That could be an interpretation of what the mayans predicted for december 2012. The end of a cycle not the end of the world. We are already experiencing changes both socially and environmentally that influence everyones psyche and suggests something big is going to happen.

Many ancient civilizations included the one the whole western civilizations own their cultural heritage: the indoeuropeans, thought of time as being cyclic. We took the notion of time as being linear from semites though.

Earth is getting too crowded. Just have 1-3 kids dammit, why have more?0Tyler0

Since we have disabled Mother Nature's defenses against overpopulation, the world is starting to get worse.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="IronBeaver"]I cannot wait till we all die-mrbojangles25

i will never understand this anti-human mentality.

I agree...Besides the people who say that are the biggest hypocrites ever, acting like they are special and contributed NOTHING to what is going on..

And people still claim humans have a minimal impact on the environment.