The definition of moral standard~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The definition of moral standard~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

many people who believe in certain religions criticised people who are atheists have no morality. I think this is so untrue.

Most people who are religious base their moral standards on their religions. However, I am an atheist, and I think our moral standards should not be based upon religions but what we learned from thie history, and what we must follow in order to avoid the same mistakes.

In other words, religions really have no good moral standards.

I believe morals often coincide with law. For instance: Killing someone is illegal, it's also immoral. That, and most of other laws of course :PAnubisCraig

ITA.  I'm an atheist and I consider myself to be a very moral person.  I get so sick of people thinking that morality = religion.  Niebz

I think religion defines morality which coincides with law.rimnet00

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I think religion defines morality which coincides with law.JapaneseLeader

The contents of bible has less to zero credibility.JapaneseLeader

That's way too far. I'm an atheist myself, but the Bible most definitely does have respectable credibilty. I think you're looking at it the wrong way. You don't have to believe the stories of the Bible (I don't), but there are simple, valuable lessons to take from it. Take the ten commandments, for example. Don't steal, no adultery, respect your mother and father, etc. Those most definitely require strong morals to live by, no?

IMO the Bible is outdated, homophobic, and misogynistic. 

The Bible is an outdated, homophobic, misogynistic piece of garbage. 

Niebz

[QUOTE="Niebz"]

The Bible is an outdated, homophobic, misogynistic piece of garbage. 

JapaneseLeader

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="Niebz"]

The Bible is an outdated, homophobic, misogynistic piece of garbage. 

Niebz

[QUOTE="Niebz"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="Niebz"]

The Bible is an outdated, homophobic, misogynistic piece of garbage. 

JapaneseLeader

So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?JapaneseLeader

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"]So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?rimnet00

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"]So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?JapaneseLeader

Just because a lot of laws nowadays represent the Ten Commandments (no killing, stealing etc), doesn't mean we took it from them. Those rules are needed to keep a society in control. Just because Moses got there first, doesn't mean it all leads back to him.AnubisCraig

So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?JapaneseLeader

I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.yoshi-lnex

I just feel that atheists are being mistreated in US.JapaneseLeader

At least the social climate's moe liberal than in past centuries...remember the Puritans?

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.JapaneseLeader

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.JapaneseLeader

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.JapaneseLeader

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.JapaneseLeader

*Points at self* Spent too long in the Bible Belt, eh?

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I'm not really sure.....I suppose it might just be up to the individual to decide what it means, but I feel that the word moral itself has been so perverted at this point that it's basically lost all real meaning.Sgt_Homonculus

*Points at self* Spent too long in the Bible Belt, eh?

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]I think religion defines morality which coincides with law.rimnet00

   Yet we have some of the greatest crimes and tragedies in history caused by these believers that turn their backs on their beliefs.. Ironic really.. That being said the Bible imo has no crediability.. First of all the Bible should never be trusted to 100%.. Even if the original Bible was infact the real deal supposedly, it has been translated to so many languages thus changing the entire meaning of the Bible all together.  That in standing that all of mankind is virtious and a guy did not use his or her warped perceptions to change the supposed accepted meaning of the Bible.. Thus why there are so many sects of Christianity for instance.

So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?JapaneseLeader

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"]So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?The_Ish

Atheism has nothing to do with it.. By Hobbes's theory its all about selfishness.. In respect to murder, WOULD You want murder to be done upon you? No so thus an essence you sacrificed some of your total freedoms to be much safer..   Laws are not made because of some "moral standing", laws and communities were first made so people could live longer, safer and have the feeling of that protection.

[QUOTE="Niebz"]

The Bible is an outdated, homophobic, misogynistic piece of garbage. 

JapaneseLeader

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.  If someone truly based their actions on the Bible they wouldn't be committing any crimes.  Where in the Bible do you think it tells you to go against any laws that you have heard of?

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"]So now, should people really follow the dated version of laws, or should they follow atheism?sSubZerOo

Atheism has nothing to do with it.. By Hobbes's theory its all about selfishness.. In respect to murder, WOULD You want murder to be done upon you? No so thus an essence you sacrificed some of your total freedoms to be much safer.. Laws are not made because of some "moral standing", laws and communities were first made so people could live longer, safer and have the feeling of that protection.